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Grandpa love

10-11-2018 12:23:42




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I hope to get this home in the next month or so. Guy has it in a fall display and says it's mine for $500. I need an Allis B! Old one ,hand crank. No starter hole.

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Dick L

10-12-2018 04:48:29




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Grandpa love, 10-11-2018 12:23:42  
The early 1938" would have to have the belt pully/power take off switched to a later model to except a hydraulic pump. The early ones just had a round core plug where the pump bolts on.



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larry@stinescorner

10-12-2018 04:30:33




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Grandpa love, 10-11-2018 12:23:42  
heres the big question,,,,who gets it? Bubba,Mick,,or Grandma Love? lol



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Grandpa love

10-12-2018 04:43:46




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to larry@stinescorner, 10-12-2018 04:30:33  
Grandma thinks it will be hers! Lol. She's right......



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old

10-11-2018 19:59:37




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Grandpa love, 10-11-2018 12:23:42  
Looks pretty good. Does it have hyds look like the hyd pump is missing but hard to tell from your pictures. Back when I moved here in 1980 we had to tractors both hand start. O often pull started the one I wanted to use with the other one. Always seemed the one I need was the one that would not start. Not easy to pull start a tractor when your the only person around



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quefan

10-11-2018 19:24:52




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Grandpa love, 10-11-2018 12:23:42  
Seen a guy at a pull that had a " starter cart" for his B. Not sure what he had for motor but it had a flexible shaft and a long snout for the crank position. Similar to what you see for F1 race cars



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RedMF40

10-11-2018 17:57:20




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Grandpa love, 10-11-2018 12:23:42  
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If u pull start, check with someone knowledgeable. Local man has Ford 8N with good motor but says county workers way back tore up the trans trying to pull start it. Maybe speed too fast? Seems like very low speed and higher gear should be ok but don't go by what I say.



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1954Frank

10-11-2018 17:29:52




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Grandpa love, 10-11-2018 12:23:42  
Nice.



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sms

10-11-2018 16:51:01




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Grandpa love, 10-11-2018 12:23:42  
I thought it would be this one.



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Grandpa love

10-11-2018 17:03:13




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to sms, 10-11-2018 16:51:01  
Darn!! Too far away! Oliver 77 still on bucket list!



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RedMF40

10-11-2018 16:31:37




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Grandpa love, 10-11-2018 12:23:42  
one ,hand crank. No starter hole.

For that year they all came standard with a gravity starter :-)



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Grandpa love

10-11-2018 16:33:06




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to RedMF40, 10-11-2018 16:31:37  
I guess it could be pull started with another tractor?



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Traditional Farmer

10-11-2018 23:38:08




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Grandpa love, 10-11-2018 16:33:06  
I've jump and pulled started tractors hundreds of times especially ones with no starter,just put it in the highest gear when the tractor gets up a little speed let the clutch out like you were starting off.



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Crazy Horse

10-11-2018 15:55:39




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Grandpa love, 10-11-2018 12:23:42  
Continuing on from my reply below, apparently the oil pump can lose it's prime for one reason or the other (or a number of reasons) once the engine/pump gets to a certain level of wear. Googling some of those key words or phrases brings up lots of internet discussions on the topic, several right here on Yesterday's Tractors.



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Grandpa love

10-11-2018 16:32:18




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Crazy Horse, 10-11-2018 15:55:39  
I will do a bit of research before I start it. Last ran this past Christmas. He pushed it to it's current location.



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Dick L

10-12-2018 04:59:14




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Grandpa love, 10-11-2018 16:32:18  
He is correct to always check oil pressure on start up. The vane pump that has a lot of wear will sometimes loose its prime. Easy to prime! Just remove the filter and fill the stand pipe with motor oil. I always start the engine and watch oil come back out the stand pipe with a hose on it, shut the tractor off, put the filter back on, restart the tractor to check the gage for pressure. I sometimes have one set for a year or two without starting them. Most time the pressure comes up but not always.

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Geo-TH,In

10-11-2018 15:09:02




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Grandpa love, 10-11-2018 12:23:42  
What do you plan to do with the tractor?



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Grandpa love

10-11-2018 16:30:45




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Geo-TH,In, 10-11-2018 15:09:02  
Until I get some implements for it, it will just a putter around the yard tractor!



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wgm

10-11-2018 16:58:26




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Grandpa love, 10-11-2018 16:30:45  
Many guys with a B put a belly mower under them to mow yards, etc. They think they have the best mowing machine ever made. I thought the same but it didnít take long to realize it was like mowing with a dinosaur. Parked the B and got a ZTR. Would never go back.



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Kl in wi

10-11-2018 14:39:24




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Grandpa love, 10-11-2018 12:23:42  
I have a 39. It has hand brakes. I f the impulse is working like it should and its timed correctly, you shouldnt have a problem with kick back.



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Crazy Horse

10-11-2018 14:18:44




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Grandpa love, 10-11-2018 12:23:42  
Good find. Did I hear someone telling me once that on start up, you have to watch your oil pressure gauge (or listen carefully to the engine running). These little AC's have some issue with the oil pump gear on the camshaft that is tricky and it doesn't always engage the pump. Maybe I dreamed that?



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old

10-11-2018 14:12:33




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Grandpa love, 10-11-2018 12:23:42  
One like that can/will break your arm and it will not give a hoot when it does. BTDT but when I first moved here we had a hand start B that sent me to the hospital



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spook

10-11-2018 22:58:37




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to old, 10-11-2018 14:12:33  
A guy I used to work with had 3 operations to repair his wrist. He never got full use of his hand back. A pretty complex joint, and some small bones in there.



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Traditional Farmer

10-11-2018 13:10:26




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Grandpa love, 10-11-2018 12:23:42  
Nice B,I spent many days on a B cultivating corn when I was growing up,we had a fertilizer side dresser we could use on it too.If you need anything I have lots of parts and equipment for them.



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Grandpa love

10-11-2018 14:11:21




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Traditional Farmer, 10-11-2018 13:10:26  
Awesome. Thanks. Can't wait to get it home. Guy said lots of folks have offered him $ 100 to haul it off. He knows we have several other tractors and said he is happy it will go to a good home.



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Dick L

10-11-2018 12:56:44




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Grandpa love, 10-11-2018 12:23:42  
Most likely a 1938. Could be a 1939. After 80 years it could be some of several years. The serial number is just in front of the shifter stick. I have 2 1938's that are together and a third one somewhat taken apart. I switched torque tubes on one with a narrow C front to have a starter. Switched crankshafts on it also to have a 4 inch stroke. I have two other B's that should run. A fun tractor to work on. They are hard for me to get off and on anymore.

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Mike M

10-11-2018 12:42:46




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Grandpa love, 10-11-2018 12:23:42  
Wasn't the model c or CA the one with hand brakes ?



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Traditional Farmer

10-11-2018 13:07:19




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Mike M, 10-11-2018 12:42:46  
Early B and C models had the hand brakes as far as braking and stopping ability they are a lot better than the foot brakes.



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jeffcat

10-11-2018 12:32:44




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 Re: My next tractor in reply to Grandpa love, 10-11-2018 12:23:42  
You aren't kidding it is old. Hand brakes!



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