Unincorporated county road speed limit in Oregon is 55 MPH. The road in front of my house is 55 MPH. I Have seen bicycles riding two wide going down the road. They are doing 5 MPH and weigh in around 200 pounds. I am driving at 55 MPH and weigh in around 3,000 pounds in my car and a bit more in my truck. That makes me 10X bigger and faster. The fun part comes when you find these targets parked and you ask them what the speed limit is on the road they are riding on. They haven't got a clue. When they find out, they are a bit surprised and usually ride off into the sunset not to return. if you get a chance, nicely educate the targets as to the intelligence of riding on a freeway and use some physics to go with it. Then they might ride back into town and sell the bike to the next target.
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Traditional Farmer
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State law in Virginia says you are supposed to drive so you are able to stop regardless of the speed limit.So you'd be OK to run over a child that was walking in the road since they are a lot
smaller and lighter than bikers?If you can't stop for one thing or avoid hitting it you can't stop for anything.
smaller and lighter than bikers?If you can't stop for one thing or avoid hitting it you can't stop for anything.
rustyfarmall
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Most of them however, are of the mindset that the road belongs to THEM, and it is YOU who should get off of it.
Russ from MN
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- Location
- Bemidji MN
I believe you are required to maintain control of your vehicle, just because the speed limit is 55 doesn't mean you have to drive that fast. If you can't stop before hitting a bicycle when meeting another vehicle then you are driving out of control. This is why so many Amish buggies get hit and the occupants killed.
while it may be legal to ride a pedal bike on a paved highway, Personally, I think that is one of the stupidest things one can do. I would NEVER do that. Way to easy to die.
I know a newspaper editor locally, he has been hit by cars, or has hit cars 3 times, first time, the driver got ticketed, 2nd time, no charges, third time, he got ticketed. This guy rides
like a moron, in the middle of the lane, then when he comes to a stop sign or stop light, he will just blow thru, Why do we have to watch out for morons like him, yet he can ignore traffic law?
The time he got ticketed, 3 other people watched him blow thru a stop light, and he actually hit the vehicle that was going thru a green light....
I know a newspaper editor locally, he has been hit by cars, or has hit cars 3 times, first time, the driver got ticketed, 2nd time, no charges, third time, he got ticketed. This guy rides
like a moron, in the middle of the lane, then when he comes to a stop sign or stop light, he will just blow thru, Why do we have to watch out for morons like him, yet he can ignore traffic law?
The time he got ticketed, 3 other people watched him blow thru a stop light, and he actually hit the vehicle that was going thru a green light....
1948CaseVAI
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It is your responsibility to not hit them, it is not their responsibility to avoid you. Your insurance will probably pay, but will not be happy with you if you hit one. They may pull your coverage because it would be like hitting a pedestrian.
'm with you on the stupidity of exposing ones self to such unnecessary risk. I this county, millions of tax dollars have been spent on building bicycle trails and parks, where people can ride for miles safely, yet far too many insist on exposing themselves to unnecessary risk of death. Just observing drivers texting is enough for me.
Bruce you exactly correct. Let me draw an analogy--most Nations, certainly ours, say that boats/ships under sail have the right-of-way over all motor powered craft. That means that 1000 ft. tanker has to turn to avoid any sailboat and there are any number sailors that preach that these big ships must get out of their way. The large ship sailor will quote their warning. YOU CAN BE DEAD RIGHT.
Ig fact if you take that attitude with a tanker in your 14' catboat you and your boat will probably just disappear.
I remember one day departing Anacortes, Wash. in my 20' runabout making 30 knots (about 33 mph) and seeing a seagoing freighter just turning the leg toward Vancouver B.C., I thought I had plenty time and space (over 5 miles). By the time I cleared the channel that freighter was less really close. Was I safe YES. Was I nervous YES. It closer than I expected!
Ig fact if you take that attitude with a tanker in your 14' catboat you and your boat will probably just disappear.
I remember one day departing Anacortes, Wash. in my 20' runabout making 30 knots (about 33 mph) and seeing a seagoing freighter just turning the leg toward Vancouver B.C., I thought I had plenty time and space (over 5 miles). By the time I cleared the channel that freighter was less really close. Was I safe YES. Was I nervous YES. It closer than I expected!
Janicholson
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I ride a bike. If I am on a country road, or any road appropriate for a bike, I am constantly aware of traffic both oncoming, and following. I especially note traffic from behind when in a hill shadow, or curve that limits the drivers view of me. Single file, a foot from the edge of pavement. Be safe. Jim
Since somebody else started this discussion; I don't know about other states, but Michigan, and I'm pretty sure the other nearby states make ORVs, snowmobiles, trail bikes etc. purchase "trail permits" or some such other nomenclature to fund their trails, etc. Why is it that bicycle users, at least in Michigan do not have to self fund their little extras, or pay for the use and upkeep of roads like motorcycles have to? If bicycle riders had to buy a licence or some form of permit to fund their bike lanes it would only be fair.
old
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- Camdenton Missouri
I'll bet you that if you check the laws a bike has every right you have in your car or truck. Yes thy do need to ride as far to the right as they can and in single file but the laws for a car are the same as the laws for bikes or at least where the last time I looked them up
Paul Shuler
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It does
John in Md.
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Around here they ride in swarms all talking to each other and they don't like being followed by vehicles. Get behind them on a grade and you have to go 5 mph, if you get tired of following and go to pass they flip you the bird, some even carry things to throw at you, if you complain to police they say there's nothing they can do!
If you're on a piece of equipment they don't care, they'll even act like they're going to swerve in front of you. If you pass them on the road and you're pulling hard on a grade blowing a little smoke they've taken my picture and lied about the circumstances and sent pictures to local police.
I think they should make them get licenses and have tags if they want to obstruct traffic. That way you can get the bad ones off of the roads.
If you're going to allow bikes on public roads why not let the skate boarders use the interstates makes as much sense!
If you're on a piece of equipment they don't care, they'll even act like they're going to swerve in front of you. If you pass them on the road and you're pulling hard on a grade blowing a little smoke they've taken my picture and lied about the circumstances and sent pictures to local police.
I think they should make them get licenses and have tags if they want to obstruct traffic. That way you can get the bad ones off of the roads.
If you're going to allow bikes on public roads why not let the skate boarders use the interstates makes as much sense!
Crazy Horse
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Pete ..... you said .... "Around here bike riders ride on both sides of the road, go thru stop signs,and ride two wide up hills and around curves, and they ride for free".
Those bad driving habits you list are equaled and easily surpassed by those of us driving cars and trucks. And bike owners really don't ride for "Free". Remember that it takes a lot more dollars to build and maintain roads than what the government derives from the piddly amount of license plate fees they collect. That's swallowed up in costs before any road equipment gets off the trailer. Bike riders pay all kinds of taxes (like all of us), some of which is used for most of the cost of road construction.
Those bad driving habits you list are equaled and easily surpassed by those of us driving cars and trucks. And bike owners really don't ride for "Free". Remember that it takes a lot more dollars to build and maintain roads than what the government derives from the piddly amount of license plate fees they collect. That's swallowed up in costs before any road equipment gets off the trailer. Bike riders pay all kinds of taxes (like all of us), some of which is used for most of the cost of road construction.
Sorry, you are wrong, doesn't matter if it is a bicycle, tractor, slow moving truck or a pedestrian, they are not targets, you are responsible to miss them. I have driven many trucks and dealt with inconsiderate driver's many times. They drive behind you when trying to back in driveways, pass on blind hills, ECT ECT.
rustyfarmall
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Motorists pay their share of road maintenance every time they visit the gas station. Bicycles do not use gasoline, nor do bicycle owners pay a registration fee.
37chief
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- California
Just about every Saturday about 50 bicycles come down the street in front of my house. They take up the whole lane. If you get behind them there is nothing you can do, but ride it out. Stan
Super H Mike
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Local guy was run down from behind on his bike this spring, killed him. The vehicle was driven by a 16 year old who admitted to entering her destination into her phone for directions at the time. No way would I ride a pedal bike on the roads these days.
I believe that in Iowa, the motor vehicle is required to be completely in the oncoming lane when passing anything.it doesn't matter if they are 1ft from the shoulder or 1 ft from the centerline of the road. I don't ride a bike, but if I did I would follow the law. I drive a truck and see too many bonehead moves by cars and pickups. Passing in no passing zone going uphill or cutting in too close are my biggest pet peeves.
Kansasredneck
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His attitude??? He isn't the one riding at 1/10th the speed limit obstructing traffic. I encounter the Psycholists all the time in my neighborhood. They think they can ride three and four abreast and chat it up. Trucks cars and combines must yield to these folks who have claimed the road as their own, and thy don't even live on it. Most are from in the developments about a mile from here.
The ones who don't care about human life are the ones who ride in traffic when they should be on your rails to trails.
Oh, and we spent several million here transforming the river levee system to a nice trail for them to ride on, but they prefer the roads instead.
The ones who don't care about human life are the ones who ride in traffic when they should be on your rails to trails.
Oh, and we spent several million here transforming the river levee system to a nice trail for them to ride on, but they prefer the roads instead.
Kansasredneck
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The roads are paid for with the motor fuel tax we shell out every time we put a gallon in the tank. There used to be a surplus, but the politicks decided to rob the fund for pet projects. They even funded the bike paths which the psycholists won't ride on.
Kansasredneck
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In Kansas and at least a few other stats bike are supposed to maintain with in three feet of the edge of the road. If there is a side walk, they are supposed to be on it not the road.
Frank(Mi.)
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Yep, get that here too. Bike trail 30' off the side of the road but a few just hafta' ride in the road....
Although I wouldn?t myself, my son and his wife love to ride bikes, and sometimes they ride on country roads in Oregon. I really don?t like them being referred to as ?targets?. They are not doing anything that?s illegal.
As long as there is no posted minimum speed, you can ride a. bike or drive a tractor any speed you like below the speed limit. Although I don?t like bicycles riding on roads, the law is that they can and I respect the law. So the thing is, if you don?t like the law as it is, then you need to try to get it changed. It?s becoming all too common for people to think they can pick and choose which laws they want to obey often with disastrous results.
As long as there is no posted minimum speed, you can ride a. bike or drive a tractor any speed you like below the speed limit. Although I don?t like bicycles riding on roads, the law is that they can and I respect the law. So the thing is, if you don?t like the law as it is, then you need to try to get it changed. It?s becoming all too common for people to think they can pick and choose which laws they want to obey often with disastrous results.
Weren't you ever a kid with a bicycle?
A year ago I posted about a neighbor who was killed on his four wheeler when he was hit by a car on a county gravel road and the driver said he was "only going 55". I got flamed by that one too because some folks thought 55 was just fine on a road like that. If not bicycles,there are pedestrians,farm equipment,wildlife,livestock that pull a Houdini and get through fences,but what the H#LL,let's all just drive 55 on rural roads. It's not against the law. All I pray for is that these idiots kill themselves and not me,my relatives,neighbors and friends or livestock.
A year ago I posted about a neighbor who was killed on his four wheeler when he was hit by a car on a county gravel road and the driver said he was "only going 55". I got flamed by that one too because some folks thought 55 was just fine on a road like that. If not bicycles,there are pedestrians,farm equipment,wildlife,livestock that pull a Houdini and get through fences,but what the H#LL,let's all just drive 55 on rural roads. It's not against the law. All I pray for is that these idiots kill themselves and not me,my relatives,neighbors and friends or livestock.
I don't know how it is in Kansas,but here in Michigan,I do in fact own the road that runs past my property. In places where I own both sides,I own the whole road. That road right of way isn't exempted from our property taxes,we pay on it. When we buy land,that right of way isn't excepted out of the description as far as acreage you pay for either. So as a matter of fact,I do own the road and I pay property tax on it. So does everybody else here who owns property.
Traditional Farmer
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- Virginia
Yep I'll take the bicycles over the crazies that drive like maniacs on my road anytime,people riding bicycles are better than speed bumps.
Unfortunately the ones that like to own the road are often the ones that want to own the road in their car.
Any oversize permit I have ever had, had right on it the requirement to let others pass at the earliest opportunity if obstructing the normal flow of traffic. This same idea should apply to everybody. I know if I were riding a bicycle and all I could see in my little rear view mirror was the chrome of a KW grille, I would get my butt out of the way.
That said, I live in a state where you can legally drive a combine on the interstate and the speed limit is 55 on gravel roads. Now don't get me started on the house movers out here. They are more arrogant than the bicycles.
Any oversize permit I have ever had, had right on it the requirement to let others pass at the earliest opportunity if obstructing the normal flow of traffic. This same idea should apply to everybody. I know if I were riding a bicycle and all I could see in my little rear view mirror was the chrome of a KW grille, I would get my butt out of the way.
That said, I live in a state where you can legally drive a combine on the interstate and the speed limit is 55 on gravel roads. Now don't get me started on the house movers out here. They are more arrogant than the bicycles.
scott mcintosh
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Like or not bicycles have the same right on our roads here and they are suppose to travel as far right as possible.That being said you can't call them targets.I have neighbors that farm around me that you have to watch out for along with bicycles coming from the bed and breakfast north of me,motorcycles,one gal down the road that rides her horse by here,along with traffic cutting through here to get to the House on the Rock add in a loose cow once in awhile.Speed limit is not posted here,55 mph yah right if you want to kill someone.Eyes on alert while we share the road.Scott
Oliver 500 Wa
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In my case, I sometimes ride a bike on the road though I greatly prefer mountain trails. I have 4 road licensed vehicles and pay license fees and all sorts of taxes including fuel tax. I figure I'm paying my share for any use of bikes lanes or paths that our local government establishes. I suspect that the majority of cyclists one sees on the road also own motor vehicles and likewise are paying license fees and taxes.
Be glad that your government is putting in bike lanes and paths. Should help minimize any inconvenience incurred from having to slow a bit to pass someone traveling in a very environmentally sound manner.
I won't defend the behavior of those cyclists that do not obey traffic signs etc. Just the same, there are plenty of drivers that do not obey the rules too.
Every misurable bicycle on the road needs a license plate and proof of full coverage insurance. I drove a truck for years, been run off the road by them, almost killed the bozos when they ran thru a red light, Lately, I was hit in the rear buy a guy in a brand new F150. Why, because some dim Witt dolly was attempting to do something with a cell phone she had in her right hand. She ran a stop sign. I came within about 1/10 of an inch of turning her and her kid into highway hamburger. Stopped just in time to miss her. The guy following me was not so lucky. Tapped my bumper and set off every air bag in that ferd. I went to see if he was OK, couldn't we him for a few seconds because of the powder from the air bags filled the cab. The darn gal just looked at us and road off. He called ferd, its gonna cost him over 3000.00 to replace them.
It's just a bad time right now for the macho men types to be implying that they want to kill somebody on the road and dance on their grave because they're going too slow. I've been hauling wagons up and down the road for a week and a half now filling silo. Three times now,some brain dead idiots have passed me and an innocent person coming the other way has had to run off the road to keep from being hit head on.
On top of that,we're coming up on the one year anniversaries of the neighbor being killed on his four wheeler by somebody who was "only going 55" on a rural gravel road,and a Mennonite buggy carrying a family of seven was struck from behind while on their way to church on a Sunday morning and three of the kids were killed instantly.
So I just hope that any of the big men who want to celebrate after they kill somebody,do it behind bars with their new boyfriend.
On top of that,we're coming up on the one year anniversaries of the neighbor being killed on his four wheeler by somebody who was "only going 55" on a rural gravel road,and a Mennonite buggy carrying a family of seven was struck from behind while on their way to church on a Sunday morning and three of the kids were killed instantly.
So I just hope that any of the big men who want to celebrate after they kill somebody,do it behind bars with their new boyfriend.
Case Nutty 1660
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they have bike lanes and paths here for them Most do not use it but like stated they blow through stop signs,, and ride in the middle of the road like they are the only ones that have the right to be there,, I yield to them as I do not want to smear them all over the roads,, but I just wish they would understand just because they have a right to use the road they are the FIRST to be in the accident and that will not turn out well for them,, but yes I agree 100% on the fact that way too many drivers of all types of vehicles drive like they haven't a brain in their heads,, school bus drivers here are among the worst drivers I have ever seen,, how they got a license to haul kids is beyond me
Stephen Newell
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I grew up at a time before the world was full of and run by idiots. I was taught there are places for bicycles and there are places for cars and they don't mix. You could ride a bicycle inside town on public streets but the cars always had the right of way. It was up to you to stay out of their way. Not anymore. Now cars never have the right of way. I see people riding bikes everywhere. Then you see people all the time crossing a street text messaging never looking to see if a car was coming or not. It's up to the driver to see them and stop.
Speaking of bicycles and speed, I saw not long ago a woman achieved the world speed record on a bicycle of 183 miles an hour. Talk about idiots.
Speaking of bicycles and speed, I saw not long ago a woman achieved the world speed record on a bicycle of 183 miles an hour. Talk about idiots.
showcrop
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Stephen, The biggest change is numbers. As a kid in the 60s I rode my bicycle on our 40MPH country road, on the 30 MPH town streets and even occasionally on 55 MPH highways. I knew that it was my responsibility to stay close to the edge and get off the pavement when I heard a large truck coming. BACK THEN ADULTS DID NOT RIDE BIKES. These days in addition to the kids there are great numbers of entitled adults.
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