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Looking for some advice/thoughts on an issue in our neighborhood. A few weeks ago, a pair of pitbulls about 1.5 miles from me attacked & killed one neighbor's dog, attacked but didn't kill another neighbor's dog, and attacked a neighbor girl's 4H animals.
The dog warden and sheriff say they can't do anything since the dogs have not attacked humans.
We have not seen these dogs venture onto our property, though a dog can easily travel that distance.

Sometimes by myself and sometimes as a family, we will take walks, go jogging or biking. Now I'm afraid to venture very far so it seems to prohibit these activities.

I'm wondering what others recommend - would mace or a taser be effective? I'm not opposed to carrying a pistol and would probably enjoy some further handgun training to be more comfortable using it. But I'm still not sure if that is a good solution.

The family that owns these dogs cannot be reasoned with, so asking them to restrain their dogs is out of the question.

The worst part is, harvest is coming up and we have to pass that house to get to our other farm. So I'm no longer comfortable riding the 4-wheeler over to the other farm like I usually do to help out over there. I have been chased by these dogs in the past while riding the 4-wheeler, but that was before these attacks happened.

Anyone been in a similar situation that has some ideas?
 

Any dog that that attacks anybody or even goes on somebody’s property will end up in the dog pound here. I had a pit mix kill 2 goats years ago, the owner voluntarily surrendered it to animal control. He had second thoughts about a hour later, he went back, and they had already put the dog down. It attacked the shelter workers, it died quick. After a couple folks got killed by a bunch of pit bulls here, the authorities take action very quickly.

IMHO, your sheriff guys are lazy.
 
It is not an dog problem it is a people problem and the people who own the dogs. I've owned a good many pit bulls and never had a men one yet. Right now I own one pure bred and 2 part breeds ones.

Back when I was a paper boy I got bit a number of times by dogs and NONE where pit bulls. I have teeth mark on my but form a German Shepard from back when was 5 years old.

As for taking thing into your own hands and trying to kill them etc. you best not because that can lead to a law suit you will not win and can easily cost you big $$$ fast
 
you never know when one of those will snap .if its on you the three S,s rule no time would be given here . as far as going by ,and you cant even ride your 4wheeler ,the hamburger thing . if you drive by in your pick up damn sure don't swerve .
 
Different laws in different areas. Has nothing to do with the law being "lazy." They are following the laws as written. Some areas just don't consider pets and livestock on the same level as a human being. Funny how inconvenient that is when it doesn't work in your favor, eh?

Conversely, because the animals are not held to the same regard as human life, you should be able to put the dogs down legally if you, for example, catch them "running deer" on your property.

If you want to do it on the up-and-up, a person is going to have to get attacked. As soon as that happens, the dogs will go poof, but it's risky because they can kill a human, especially if nobody's around with adequate weaponry to beat them back.
 
My dad had a warning for dog owners. Any dog that attacks my family or my dogs. Will be delivered to you so that you can bury it. A dog attack was an automatic death sentence.
 
I actually think the sheriff and dog warden are afraid of the owner. If I did half the stuff they get away with, I would have been thrown in jail a long time ago.
 
The 3 S rule works the best. Getting harder to not be caught as camera's are everywhere. Now in Ohio we have this Goddard's law which will make a felony if you harm an animal ! Been in your spot and we even have a local leash law and you can't get it enforced.
Is it a busy road ? drive by and drop some meat out there and maybe someone else will fix the problem ?
 
yes. after loose dogs killed one of my wife's cats and tried to attack my daughter's show lambs I told the owners if their dogs ever came on my property again I'd shoot them (dogs, not owners). they did and I did and immediately called the sheriff's office. on another occasion after the dog's owner threatened my wife and then said she wanted to press charges against me, the deputy told her we wouldn't press charges against her if she'd stay away from us. i like pets but owners have to have some sense.
 
what the hel- state do you live in ? the dogs have killed and the sheriff is not impounding them we had the same thing going on a few years back one was shot two were impounded owner fined and had to pay all cost owner got dogs back both with in a week got shot
 
We are also in Ohio. I have never heard of that law, but I guess maybe I need to learn it.
If we (my husband) is home and the dogs are seen on our property, he will shoot them. But, my concern is when we are not home, but maybe the kids are, and the dogs come on the property, it could be a bad situation.

The only downside of using the raw meat/antifreeze is that I'm afraid our neighbor (whose 4H animals were attacked) will get blamed. This family does plan to take them to small claims court, but it still doesn't alleviate the danger that our neighborhood is probably in.

Then there is the whole retaliation concern...
 
If you do illegal stuff you will feel guilty and know you did the wrong thing. I would carry a 22 with hollow points and send them home with a hurting butt if they came at me . I would continue to ride my ATV wherever I want but be armed and ready for them.
 
I think they're lying to you when they tell you they can't so anything because they haven't attacked a human. There was one in my yard one time chasing the cattle in the feedlot. I called the dog catcher and told him if he wasn't here in 20 minutws that I would shoot it myself and that he'd better be recording the call because if I ended up in court,he was going with me since I had called him to report it. He was here in 15. He pulled out a rifle and took a shot at it himself. He missed,but followed it to see where it came from. It never showed up again.

Two dogs attacked my cousin's sheep and killed a few. He shot and killed them. Not only did he not get in trouble,the county paid for the sheep because the woman who owned the dogs didn't have insurance.
 
Pit bulls haved earned a bad reputation. While ALL breeds have been responsible for bites at some point or another. Bad dogs are caused by bad owners. Having said this. For some reason Pit bulls tend to attract bad owners the way fresh cut hay attracts rain clouds. My theory ( FWIW) is that different breeds are known for different things and attract different people. Pit Bulls have a reputation for aggression. Because of this people who are of a mind set to own an aggressive dog get pit bulls. Because of their desire for a mean dog the naturaly becomes mean. Furthering the reputation and causing more people of said mind set to seek out a pit bull. And the cycle repeats. Now I am NOT saying all people who own pits are bad owners. I am simply saying that as a breed pits have gotten way more then their fair share of bad owners


Sod Buster
 
Here is the pertinent Ohio ordinance. Turns out you can't legally kill a marauding dog for killing your dog, but you can kill it for killing your chickens or other livestock.

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/955.28
 
Note that the Ohio ordinance says you must kill the dog during the attack, menace, or chase. So if you do kill the dog, make sure you tell the cop that you shot the dog during the attack.
 
(quoted from post at 16:33:34 08/28/18) We are also in Ohio.
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go to minicode.com and look at the local codes for your area, be it city, township, county, etc.
Do a search on "dogs"
It will show what all ordinances are in effect for your area.
Some might help.

Forget the burger and antifreeze, it takes more than just one meal worth to do them in. If they only get sick they might take them to the vet and then they will find they have been poisoned.
THEN the law will be looking for likely suspects.

Sometimes you have to do the SSS due to stupid owners letting them run loose.
 
I cannot agree or disagree with what your saying. I have had a pit bull ever since I moved here in 1980. Yes not the same pit bull but I have always had one. The pit bull I have now I would let out of the house before I would the other 2 dogs I have because the other 2 are younger and tend to be hyperactive. The pit bull on the other hand would walk up to a person and wag her tail and if you get hit by that tail it hurts big time. I learned to have a good pit bull you treated them good and you never trained them to be a guard dog or attack dog. Back In the 80s I raised and sold pits and told any one who got one of my dog they where not for sale if they where going to fight them or use them as guard dogs or the price went up 1000% as in if I was selling it for $100 if they wanted it for fighting it went up to $1000 and no papers, yes they where registered
 
(quoted from post at 17:25:20 08/28/18) Here is the pertinent Ohio ordinance. Turns out you can't legally kill a marauding dog for killing your dog, but you can kill it for killing your chickens or other livestock.

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/955.28
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That would be the minimum law at the state level.
All levels below that can and are likely to be more severe or lenient.
 
A gun would be the way to handle the situation. SSS.
We had neighbors with a pit bull. Seemed like an OK dog, you could
pet it and so forth, then one day it tried to eat my son. Took many stitches to fix him.
Neighbor was a deadbeat and we ended up with the doctor bill, lawyer said it didn't pay to sue cuz he had nothing.
Cops said it takes 2 attacks to get rid of the dog so he got to keep the thing around.
Never owned a gun before that. But I went and bought a 22 a week after the incident.
Any dog that harasses my family or my livestock is fed a special meal of lead and I would expect the same if I was stupid enough to let my dogs roam.
 
Some high octane wasp spray to the eyes might do the trick as well as a three foot piece of 3/4" pvc across the snout of said animal. I ain't going to let any dog dictate how I live. TDF
 
Back earlier this year 2 pitfalls came on the farm and started to attack our jersey cow. Wife and Daughter were the only ones home when happened. She called the Police and they came up and shot and killed both dogs. They took them back to the owner and wrote him a ticket. Cow survived but the worst part about the ordeal is now my daughter does not want to be left alone. I shoot every one of them dogs that set foot on the farm. I have many acres and a backhoe they are never seen again
 
Sounds like you are in a pickle. Once those dogs started killing they won't stop till they are dead. If open carry is allowed in your area load your pistol with rat shot and empty it if need be while out walking. You have no business riding a 4 wheeler on a roadway so that's solved. You and you neighbors need to get some chickens or goats. There is nowhere protecting livestock is prohibited and animal control has to address it if they are attacked.
 
(quoted from post at 12:16:06 08/28/18) yes. after loose dogs killed one of my wife's cats and tried to attack my daughter's show lambs I told the owners if their dogs ever came on my property again I'd shoot them (dogs, not owners). they did and I did and immediately called the sheriff's office. on another occasion after the dog's owner threatened my wife and then said she wanted to press charges against me, the deputy told her we wouldn't press charges against her if she'd stay away from us. i like pets but owners have to have some sense.
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Never threaten. Just keep quiet and do what needs doing.

To the OP, take a pistol, or short barrel rifle on your walk. Make sure it is not concealed, and you're good to go.
 
I like and agree with what M-MAN and Doc Mirror have said (plus Billy Shafer). It's a sad situation for sure, and definitely a ticking time bomb.

Only thing I can add that hasn't been mentioned yet is, video cameras should now be everyone's best friend.

You said you had crops/land on the other side of this house, and that you had a 4-wheeler. Get a GoPro and always keep it running. If the dogs run after you on the ATV, you should be able to out-run them, but you will have on video that these dogs "aggressively" tried to attack you. Some might say "[i:350ace01a1]But that's like they're chasing a car[/i:350ace01a1]". Except, you don't have the protection of the car body, and you KNOW they have attacked and killed before.

If you get it on video, the law will have clear grounds to go after the owners and have the dogs removed from the area or put down.

Talk to your neighbors. Would be great if everyone could get some video for areas where they have livestock that might be threatened.

As for just taking walks, As I said, I can't give any better advice than what's already been given.
 
I say do your neighborhood a favor and eliminate the dog.
I'm a serious dog lover but think that breed should be outlawed and eliminated.
Do a search for pit bull attack on youtube.
There are many, many videos there.
 
I'm glad I live in a county that requires all dogs be on a leash or fenced in.

The guy I've been helping work on his horse barn is also a retired deputy. He told me about his neighbors down the road from horse barn, who got a $100 fine from animal control for letting her two dogs run loose. Animal control is part of sheriff's dept where he once worked. Each time animal control comes out the fine increases.

He got a big chuckle out of the woman getting a fine. He said she probably got lippy with the deputy or the deputy was tired of giving her warnings.

I'm grateful my county finally put an end to dogs running in packs and reproducing.

If pitbulls came in my yard and owner wouldn't do anything, they would never be seen again.
 
My county also has a leash law,no stray dogs running around, better for farms and wildlife.Can't let my cows and goats run all over the place so why do people think their dogs and cats
should be able to go anywhere they want?
 

As a family was walking by our house with their dog one time, as they were nearly past the dog bolted after our sheep. The dog got a lamb down but I intervened before there was serious damage. The people had walked on, so I called the Police. Very soon an officer (personal friend) showed up with a piece of paper. It was a photocopy of a page from the state laws that said in effect "If a dog makes your animal nervous you may legally shoot it".
 
I agree with Sodbuster87. Most bad pitbulls are the result of bad and/or dumb pitbull owners.
 
"riding the 4-wheeler over to the other farm like I usually do to help out over there." That's his business riding a four wheeler on a roadway.TDF
 
Statistics don't agree with your
assessment. You and most of their
defenders are correct in that they
don't bite often, they bite at about
the same rate as other large breeds,
and less often than small ankle biters.
And good or bad owners changes that
very little. Where they differ is once
they bite as they are much more likely
to make it a serious encounter or
death. Pits and rotts are respponsible
for around 85% of serious bite
encounters and closer to 90% of fatal
dog encounters if I remember correctly,
I could be off a little there. Where
other breeds bite, pits try to kill.
The pitbull breed is the only breed
that has a natural pain killer that is
released when they start an attack,
which is why it is so hard to stop them
once they start as they can't feel you
beating on them. The statistics can be
found, but you have to get past all the
backers be studies to find the real
facts.
 
It is perfectly legal to ride on the highways here. The Highway Patrol kept ticketing an old man,so his State Representative wrote, and got the bill passed. (It was his son)
 
I didn?t read everybody?s replies, but I would shoot them and not tell a soul about it, you may need to haul off the carcass?s or bury them. It?s sad to have to destroy an animal but sometimes you just have to do what needs to be done. That breed is unpredictable no matter how it was raised...
 
Pitbulls are just what the name imply. A bird dog is a bird dog, a shepard is a herding dog, a retriever is a retriever, a rat terrier is and so on. Each has been breed for a specific use and you might say this is in their DNA. The pitbull was breed to be a gladiator and was used with dogs much as one uses cocks for cock fights.
 
M-Man in many states it is fully legal to ride 4 wheelers on certain roads. So your statement about that is out.LOL
 
I have a next door neighbor with something of the sort. Bull head, mouth full of teeth, comes over here and challenges me for no reason. I told him I'll put him down if he doesn't keep the dog up. He said the kids accidentally let him out. I said I wouldn't accidentally shoot him. It will be deliberate. Time will tell.
 
The breed of pit bull has been traced all the way back to Roman times and where a battle field dog back then much like the Arabian horse was a Arab battle field horse. I understand this because I have done research on both and own both. There are accounts of where an Arabian horse would not let any body close to the body of its fallen master and the same holds true to the pit bull.
 
I'm not sure I can offer any advice that hasn't already been offered, but I will tell a story. I couple months ago I was working in the shop and my old coon dog was tied up. I heard her start sqeeling and ran out to find a large black dog on her, i started kicking at it and managed to get it off my dog almost instantly the dog had me down and all I remember was stiff arming teeth. The only thing that kept me from really getting hurt was my dog regained her composure and got in the mix. The whole experience lasted probably less than a minute and I was exhausted. I have learned New respect for what a dog is capable of.
 
Dad always kept the 12 gauage loaded. 1st shell was rock salt and the rest were normal. If the 1st didn't change their thoughts the rest ended their thougts.
 
If you research further back with DNA I think you will find the European Wolf. It was the first domesticated animal that our large dog breeds originated from. Selective breeding resulted in the different breeds as we know them now. One breed was breed specifically to fight other dogs. Just this past year I had to deal with a dog that would not let anyone near the sickened owner. It was not a pit bull but a trained police dog.





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Bad pit bulls are caused by bad owners. That pile of horse crap is nothing but an old wives tail. If you own one of those useless dam dogs around here you better be ready for a fight. There's loaded high powers here, pistols loaded with hollow points, shot guns loaded with hollow point deer slugs. Skid loader out back. Would have that useless piece of crap dead and hurried in a heart beat. Good luck with your problem. I owned a fuel/LP gas business for 15 years. Was attacked several times by these totally useless pieces of crap. They love to sneak up behind you and attack.
 
One Saturday I worked till noon and after I changed clothes I headed out the back door. I head a growl and something grabbed my pants leg, it was a pit bull and I was cornered in the garage. By the grace of God for some reason my border collie came from the farm to my house and started in the the pit bull. He was fast enough so he did not get bit and gave me a chance to get the Taurus Judge out of my truck. I called my dog out of garage and gave the put bull 5 rounds of 3" 8 shot .410. The dog ran and hid behind the swing set and I then turned his head into a canoe with with my .458. Of my kids would of been home that day or my dog not came over it would of ended worse. I have no idea why anyone would have a dog like that!
 
Haven't you noticed that owning a pitbull makes you a real "He-man" "tough dude" " a man to be reckoned with".
It is so easy..get a bad dog..be respected.
 

I did not read all the reply's... I had problems with a neighbors dogs I turned the damage in to there homeowners insurance. The owners did not give a damm what there dogs did but got mad as ell when I turned in the claim... I told them I would turn a claim in every day and I did... The lady of the house took her dogs and left her husband stayed but in the end set the house on fire to collect the insurance...

I would not settle for they don't care I would force them to care...
 
Just as I read this thread, the news is on and showed a follow-up report about a dog attack locally. The four year old boy had his face ripped open, the POS father claimed it was a woman walking her pit bull, even gave a description of the lady and which way she ran off. Turns out it was the dog owned by his buddy and they made up the story so the dog, who had attacked others, would be saved. The father is being charged with making a false police report, the buddy still has the dog, for now.

My justice system does not match our local laws, but, I will let them handle it. Perhaps they will come to the proper conclusion.
 
This past spring an 80+ year old woman was walking through her neighborhood and was attacked and killed by 2 Pitt bulls. Am sure they were destroyed but little condolence to her family. I believe owner may be facing time in jail. I also think there have been two other separate Pitt bull attacks in Oklahoma this summer.
 
Decades ago when I lived in Romeoville, IL. happened to be such a punk that the police shot his dog after it got loose one two many times and was running that neighborhood. The punk used to walk his pitbull around with a huge piece of log chain around its neck coupled by a series 500 lock drooping down because I figure rappers dressed like that. He and his dog were bad and he wanted the world to know it. Once was a young lady walking her boxers across the road from my house and I saw him cross cross the road to be on their side walking against them just to torment her or give his dog a reason to attack if her dogs attacked to defend themselves because he and his dog were bad and he wanted her and the world to know it. He used to pull that. He used to have a wire between two trees on his front lawn that he'd tether his dog to so that it could run between the trees but the tether was long enough that it could reach the road well beyond the public sidewalk and he'd do it at night so that people that were walking on the sidewalk would get charged by the dog and not see it until it was baring down on them in the dark. Did it to me one time while I was walking one of my labs but we made it into the road before it got us. The wife was sitting out on the porch and I shouted to her that one of those times that dog would get someone and then she and her husband would be making payments on that house that someone else would take over and live in as part of a lawsuit. She shortened the tether after that. Then one day I was walking one of my labs and the punk was coming towards me on the other side of the road but crossed to my side as he neared me because he wanted me to know that he and his dog were bad. I shouted to him that if that dog touched my dog that he would get to watch me kill it just before I killed him. I wasn't joking. He crossed back to the other side and never pulled that with me again. Then again the cops shot it one day after it got loose one too many times as little kids were outside playing and had to scram into houses so that they wouldn't get bit or worse. I was out walking and witnessed the cops go for it as it turned and went for them and that was the end of that "bad" dog.

There ARE ways to deal with punks. Trust me on that one. There really truly are. Good luck.

Mark
 
Reading back it just amazes me how many people were quick to jump on and defend pit bulls. Would the same have happened if the dog in question had been a pomerainan or a beagle? Or even a lab?
 
(quoted from post at 23:47:38 08/28/18) Reading back it just amazes me how many people were quick to jump on and defend pit bulls. Would the same have happened if the dog in question had been a pomerainan or a beagle? Or even a lab?
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hen not a killer, they don't need defending.
 
I didn't read ANY of the responses to your original post, but I'll tell you my story.

My wife and I were returning home about 11 pm one evening, when we found a black horse standing in the middle of our township road. It was in front of a house that had several horses, and we assumed that the horse belonged to the property owner. Is there anyone who would NOT want to know that their horse was standing in the middle of the road? I pulled into the driveway and got out and was immediately surrounded by two aggressive pit bulls. The property owner came out on the porch and I told him about the horse - he said offhand that it was not his horse. I attempted to make my way back to my car, but the pit bulls were circling me and rushing me from behind. The owner of these dogs and his wife and kids were watching from the porch as if they were entertained by the spectacle of someone about to get attacked by their dogs. After several attempts to get to my car, I got ticked off and told him that if one of these dogs bites me I'd be back in five minutes with a .45 and I'll kill them both because I can't tell them apart. Everyone on the porch started screaming at the two dogs, but the dogs paid no attention. After they physically intervened with the dogs, I was able to get in the car and get away. Is this the mindset of the typical pit bull owner?


Disclaimer - Our present dog is part pit bull and part Lab. She has never been aggressive to anyone, but the first time she displays aggression to a human will be her last day alive.
 
Simple solution. the good old three SSS. Shoot , Shovel and shut up. Don't even talk to yourself about it. LOL

At least that is what I heard works good. I can not tell you first hand if it really works or not. (Watching out for lightening bolts while I typed that) LOL
 
The research I did was in a book put out back In the early 80s if not before about the pit bull breed and it had then traced back to Roman times. Animal breeding was done back in Jesus time and before just not written down on paper and kept. Any animal if raised by a person can be very protective. I once had a cat that would not let any one but family into my room. If some one but my family came in she would attack them. She was a Shimise SP cat and I raised her fro ma kitten and the only place she ever was In was my room up till I went In the navy and even then any time I came home she would come right to me and be stand offish to others till I left again. I know right where he is to this day as in buried in my front yard.
 
Now see you putting a person who owns a dog into a one size fits all box. I know and have known many people with pit bulls and NONE where ever mean or even tried to attack a person. What your saying is like saying all guns are bad because they kill people. I own and have owned at least one pit bull since 1980 and I have NEVER had one that would attack a person. Yes I have had a few that would protect me if I was attacked. One example was a friend who came down and did some backhoe work for me back in the early 80s. One day he drove down in his Dodge 4X4 truck and had is air dale in the back. I went to go talk to him nd his air dale jumped out of his truck and tried to attack me. My pit bull went after his dog and after his dog jumped back into the bed of his truck my dog came to me and that was it. The guy almost fell off his MF Backhoe laughing at what he had just seen. He told me I had a very well train and very good dog. Now get this he was the person who gave me the dog along with all of her papers.
 
I have NEVER been bit by a pit bull but I have ben bit but German Shepard, Saint Barnades sp Chawawas Dobermans, and many others. I have owned more then 100 pit bulls and at one time back In the 80s bred them and sold them and never had any that I sold ever be mean that I know of and I kept track of may of them for years. Shoot the pit I own right now would only hurt you if you got hit by her tail but she is 9 years old and 85lbs. I have scares fro many dogs but NOT one from a pit. If you don't believe me stop by and I'll drop my pants for you and show you the fang marks on my but from a German Shepard that bit me for no rime or reason when I was around 5 years old. All I was doing was going home for super when my mom called
 
One word for you is BULL.

90% of what is on the news about pits are as much bull as most stuff yo use on CNN or MSNBC

I've owned pits since 1980 and NEVER had a mean one and never had any one get bit by one I owned

Just like with any thing if you have not owned one then your not likely to know first hand what is and is not. Just like all bikers are out laws etc. Which many bikers and bike club member have been called
 
And I ask again: Why is everybody coming out of the wood work to defend Pit Bulls. I stand by what I said earlier. Bad dogs are caused by bad owners. All these accounts of good pit bulls are obviously dogs that were owned and raised by people who knew what they were doing in regards to dogs. Having said that pit bulls tend to attract a certain type of owner. If the OP had never specified the breed I doubt there would be this much heated response. I should say I personaly have no special love nor special hate for pit bulls.

Sod Buster
 
Pit bulls are number three on the list. https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/30836/jack-russell-tops-cops-list-of-dogs-most-likely-to-bite-humans/
 
MY comment is not about the dog...it is about the people that own them and take them out for a walk through the neighborhood using a spiked collar on the dog and a log chain for a leash. Matches their tattoos.
 
(quoted from post at 23:09:12 08/28/18) And I ask again: Why is everybody coming out of the wood work to defend Pit Bulls. I stand by what I said earlier. Bad dogs are caused by bad owners. All these accounts of good pit bulls are obviously dogs that were owned and raised by people who knew what they were doing in regards to dogs. Having said that pit bulls tend to attract a certain type of owner. If the OP had never specified the breed I doubt there would be this much heated response. I should say I personaly have no special love nor special hate for pit bulls.

Sod Buster
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Sod Buster, I can't see where you get that. I see one out of ten defending pit bulls. HUGE CONDEMNATION! Perhaps you are not reading the posts all the way through.
 
If I see an unaccompanied pit bull the next thing I see is a dead dog and I don't care where the dog is.
 
Where do they rank on the list of dogs most likely to kill a human?


Just so you know- pitbulls are responsible for a full third of all human/dog fatalities in the US.

The dogs the kill the most humans

1. Pitbulls
2. Rottweilers
3. Pitbull mixed breed
4. German Shepherds
5. Bullmastiffs.
6. Wolf hybrids.
7. Huskies.
8. Akitas.
 
Actually the two breeds account for about 65% of all human/dog fatalities. The one thing I did learn though is that they count pitbull cross breeds as their own catagory - when that's added to the pitbull breed they account for over 50% of the fatalities by themselves.


My neighbor was working ground and got off his tractor in the middle of a field to make an adjustment to his disk and dogs - a German Shepherd/Pitbull cross and a Chow/Pitbull cross - attacked him. He had no idea the dogs were anywhere around and his first inkling that there was a problem was when they attacked him from behind and knocked him down. He barely got to his feet and ran for the tractor cab fighting them off the entire time. Turns out they were from a drug house that was being rented next to his property. He went to field's edge where his truck was parked and as soon as he got out both dogs came running again. He shot them both with the 30-30 in his truck. He spent two days in the hospital with over 60 stitches in his legs and back. About a week later the drug house burned to the ground.
 
(quoted from post at 14:56:35 08/28/18) I actually think the sheriff and dog warden are afraid of the owner. If I did half the stuff they get away with, I would have been thrown in jail a long time ago.
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Then you will need to kill the dogs on the QT. Shouldn't be hard to figure out how if they are loose in the area. Just poison the snot out of them.
 
That is nonsense. the dogs damaged property

the sheriff has to do something about it. I cannot imagine any state that doesn't have laws against it. dog owners are absolutely liable.

dogs should have already been put down. call their homeowners insurance company. THey will not tolerate the liability of dogs like that. loose the insurance to get rid of the dogs.
 
so you raised pits ,and was fine with selling them for fighting as long as you got more money .that's a special kind of pos if that's what you meant !
 
(quoted from post at 23:09:47 08/28/18)
I had problems with a neighbors dogs I turned the damage in to there homeowners insurance.
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(quoted from post at 10:54:03 08/29/18) call their homeowners insurance company. THey will not tolerate the liability of dogs like that. loose the insurance to get rid of the dogs.
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okay you two, now tell us how you went about finding who the insurance carriers were.
 
Have you ever noticed that 99% of PitBull defenders (here and elsewhere) never acknowledge that their animal has way more potential to maim and kill then all other breeds?
And that it only takes ONE instance to blow their claim of "my pit would/has never harmed anyone"?

They always want to cough up the "other breeds bite people way more often the Pitbulls".

I would agree with that, but if I am going to be attacked, I would prefer it to be the ankle biters vs a Pit.
 
Why is it after the pit bull bites a kid's face off, the owner is always shown on TV tearfully blubbering, or quoted in the paper saying, "He/She's a good boy/girl. He/She's never attacked anyone?"
 
My first pit bull had a heavy chain for a color because every color I tried she would break. She was a 90lbs female that if I had not had her at one point in time I could well have died but she pulled me out form under the car that fell on me
 
I'm sorry that you replied before reading my entire post.

The last line tells you that I am a dog owner. She's part pit bull and part lab, and very friendly to everyone. If she ever even growls at someone, I'll shoot her.

I have no problem with anyone owning the dog of their choice, but it ticked me off to have this entire family enjoying the spectacle of an eminent dog attack.
 
(quoted from post at 12:17:15 08/29/18) My first pit bull had a heavy chain for a color because every color I tried she would break. She was a 90lbs female that if I had not had her at one point in time I could well have died but she pulled me out form under the car that fell on me
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I assume autocorrect got you, I was very confused about the different chain colors for a moment.
I'm guessing it was supposed to be collars.
Sometime autocorrect can be a pain.
 

PJH I had the same thing happen years ago.
When to my neighbors house for something, don't remember what but they knew I was coming because I'd called first.
When I got there me and their red haired mutt when round and round in the yard while they watched from the porch.
I told him if he didn't want his kids to see me kill the dog he'd best call it off, he did.
Our farm wrapped around their place and sometime later I was walking home from a back field, their little girl came out and was talking to me as we walked by their house, next thing I know that D-- dog had snuck up behind me and bit my leg then ran back to the house, it wasn't like it was protecting the little girl because it ran away after biting me.
The dog had bit a couple of other people has well and killed some of our pigs but the neighbor didn't do anything about it
A month or so later I saw the dog out near the back of our hog lot, it didn't make it home.

The biggest problem with pit bulls, rottweillers and such is they don't just bite, they continue to attack bitting, mauling and killing.
I have no use for such a animal and find nothing about their looks or demeanor appealing.

I grew up around dogs, most were working and hunting breeds, collies, shepherd's, coon hounds.
Yes even those will bite but I've never heard of one mauling or killing a person.

We do have a dog, it's a border collie/lab mix and it might lick you to death, but one would have to be aggressive toward my wife or the grand kids before it would bite them.
 
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