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Welding man

Welding man

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I don't know how many of you have read about the shooting in Florida at the video football games. First of all let me say that in no way am I trying to stir up anything, but guess what one of the victims is the son of one of my best friends. We have been friends and have worked together for many years. This kid was a model young citizen. He was a college graduate, worked for a bank and had a beautiful wife and young baby. He was enjoying a hobby. Who would have ever thought that a young kid from West Virginia would be wiped out in a second 800 miles from home by an idiot with a handgun. His brother was at my shop on Thursday. I belong to the NRA and I have numerous guns, don't want of give up any of them, but how to we stop this craziness? Do we crawl under a rock and never go anywhere? I don't have the answer, do you?
 
Why it is when a person drives drunk we blame the person driving. Not the booze or the car. But when there is a shooting all the sudden we blame the object used. You can say all day long that a guns only purpose is to kill. And while this may be true, the only purpose of booze is to get you "buzzed" and/or drunk. So why is no one marching on Washington to ban booze? More people are killed every year from alcohol than weapons. And by a very wide margin I might add.
We will fix the problem of violence when we realize that we have a much bigger problem.
When we have a nation that imprisons parents for disiplining kids. Or schools that teach that everyone is owed something by society. Do we realy have any right to complain about our current state of affairs?
As a side note. People are shot, stabbed and beat to death every day in gang violence. Why do we never hear about that?

Sod Buster
 
The establishment it was held at was a gun free zone, right? That's an invitation to criminals. The more people doing concealed carry, the safer we all are.
 
As violent as some of the video games are seems that it would numb the people playing them to violence and maybe get in some weak minded people's heads that shooting or whatever is the
way to solve problems just like in the video games.Can't separate fantasy from reality.
 
Don't know the numbers, but think you are more likely to die in a car accident, than from a gunman like this. Don't think it's a reason to stop driving. I think we need to be more aware of our surroundings, no longer can we go wherever and not pay attention to what is going on around us. Getting to be more and more crazies out there, and there are hundreds of ways to harm people, not just guns. Good luck and be safe.
 
Many of us ask the same question. No single person or entity will ever mitigate characteristics of the human race that cause people to actually follow through and act like so many have in recent times, killing innocent people with firearms and other kinds of weapons.

Kids need a strong family with upstanding parents, guardians etc. They need real educators, mentors, and counselors while growing up. Those that focus on the real threat of going down the path that leads to these tragedies, and so many other important areas that seem to have fallen to the wayside in current times. There is a stark difference in education today and I do not have much faith in the manner and content of todays curriculum.

Punishing law abiding citizens with all the regulations one can muster, will resolve nothing, doing so does not even penetrate the surface of such problems.

No one can answer as to what it takes to get through to todays youth or adults for that matter, whom are vulnerable to the weakness of killing innocent people at a whim or pre-meditated. If we can't get through to these people, it will continue. You'll never reach them all, but you certainly can reach a lot more than not.

Personally, as angry as I could ever get, there's just no way I'd take the time to prepare and follow through by doing what these people have done, it's just not going to happen and that is the difference. Those that do, are cut from a different cloth and its not even something I can understand, but it's out there walking among us everyday. Herein is the problem that needs to be addressed. That is why it is so frustrating when law abiding citizens are treated with barracks justice, all are punished because of an individual and there is no way to discern between either kind of person, one that would never follow through, and those that do without hesitation. These are two completely different kinds of people, the latter being cloaked until they act and it's too late.
 
Only way to fix gun violence is to be ready to react if and when you need to. Video games now days also do not help with them showing people shooting people all the time and no one gets hurt so it becomes a metal thing of video guns do not hurt so maybe real guns do not. Only way to stop this is to arm your self and others so no one know who maybe able to stop the problem before it get very far. I do not know if this was a gun free zone but gun free zones are an invite to crazies with guns wanting to do harm
 
More people are killed by medical mistakes too. Not going to stop the blaming of objects, like when they used to try inanimate objects for murder. Nothing is going to help until they realize you need to lock the nuts up even if it hurts their feelings, of course if you ask "enlightened abundant intelligentsia" people we ARE nuts for liking guns and the shooting sports
 
I'm afraid that this is a sign of our times and I also fear it will get worse. Too many people I know are addicted or immersed in some form of PDA. It's like the human race or reality around them does not exist any more. No one on one human interaction or experience of just living with one and other.
 
If he wouldn't have had guns, he would have probably had a butter knife like the Brits, we should be putting up more "centers" to deal with these type of people
 
It seems the shooter had a history of mental illness. Yet he was able to "legally" purchase two handguns. I say "legally" in quotes since his mental health history should have barred him from firearms ownership. Clearly he passed the instant background check at least twice.
 
I would like to offer my condolences.

I really doubt you will get any reasonable responses here, too polarized.
 
Problem is with that is the justice system is broken and so many real crimes get sweep under the rug and many petty crimes the guy get more sentence then he should. Unless one is arrest as it is happening many time no one know who did it and many time the guy arrested did not do it. There's a guy here In Missouri who was in jail for shooting his wife but the cops handle things incorrectly and well he is out and cleared of all crime of it. To do as your saying we need to fix the justice system from the top down since a lot of those In the justice system are criminal them self's
 
(quoted from post at 00:38:21 08/28/18) I don't know how many of you have read about the shooting in Florida at the video football games. First of all let me say that in no way am I trying to stir up anything, but guess what one of the victims is the son of one of my best friends. We have been friends and have worked together for many years. This kid was a model young citizen. He was a college graduate, worked for a bank and had a beautiful wife and young baby. He was enjoying a hobby. Who would have ever thought that a young kid from West Virginia would be wiped out in a second 800 miles from home by an idiot with a handgun. His brother was at my shop on Thursday. I belong to the NRA and I have numerous guns, don't want of give up any of them, but how to we stop this craziness? Do we crawl under a rock and never go anywhere? I don't have the answer, do you?
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At ome time the NRA was all about the hunter and his/her right to own firearms for that purpose. Their propaganda has turned into something ugly, and has very little to do with the sport hunters that wanted to keep their hunting weopons.
 
I don't think gun free has anything to do with it. Most times these people go into it knowing they are not coming out. So if the cops don't get there in time to kill them, they kill themselves.
 
I believe for mental health to be able to bar someone from buying a gun it has to be an involuntary commitment or a psychologist determination filed in court and approved by a judge--of course this has to be in accordance with the local state laws on mental health
 
Guess I gotta "get out more", as I hadn't heard about it, not do I know what "video football games" are. Sounds like a bad deal, tho!
 
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(quoted from post at 00:38:21 08/28/18) I don't know how many of you have read about the shooting in Florida at the video football games. First of all let me say that in no way am I trying to stir up anything, but guess what one of the victims is the son of one of my best friends. We have been friends and have worked together for many years. This kid was a model young citizen. He was a college graduate, worked for a bank and had a beautiful wife and young baby. He was enjoying a hobby. Who would have ever thought that a young kid from West Virginia would be wiped out in a second 800 miles from home by an idiot with a handgun. His brother was at my shop on Thursday. I belong to the NRA and I have numerous guns, don't want of give up any of them, but how to we stop this craziness? Do we crawl under a rock and never go anywhere? I don't have the answer, do you?
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At ome time the NRA was all about the hunter and his/her right to own firearms for that purpose. Their propaganda has turned into something ugly, and has very little to do with the sport hunters that wanted to keep their hunting weopons.
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If you think the 2nd amendment has anything to do with "hunting weapons" you are mistaken. If you think the NRA actualy protects your gun rights "hunting" or other wise then you are extremely mistaken. Every major gun control law passed in the last hundred years had the backing of the NRA. Look it up if you don't believe me. The NRA lobbies for gun control. It passes, then they send out flyers saying the sky is falling, send us money.
Sod Buster
 
(quoted from post at 18:27:12 08/27/18) I don't think gun free has anything to do with it. Most times these people go into it knowing they are not coming out. So if the cops don't get there in time to kill them, they kill themselves.
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Gun Free Zone is the one and only thing in common amongst all school shootings in the last 30 years
 
I strongly disagree.

Posting an area as a "gun free zone" is like putting up a billboard that tells a criminal that he will face no opposition at such a location.

It would logically follow that one would not expect to encounter a gun in certain locations. Like churches and schools. But, posting a notice to that effect is like an invitation to an armed criminal.

Another thing: blaming the gun is pointless. If the killer had been in possession of a kitchen knife, a tire iron, or a baseball bat, he could still have killed somebody. Maybe not as easily or conveniently, but still within the realm of reality.
 
I feel the same way you do. Crazy people shouldn't be able to buy a gun. How many people go out and kill someone who doesn't have a mental issue? Yet this crazy person was legally able to buy 2 guns a month before.

That's just CRAZY!!!
 
"his mental health history should have barred him from firearms ownership." Why do we need people with mental issues carrying guns around making the world less safe. Answer is we don't. A small part of a solution to the problem has been identified right there.
 
(quoted from post at 19:38:21 08/27/18) I don't know how many of you have read about the shooting in Florida at the video football games. First of all let me say that in no way am I trying to stir up anything, but guess what one of the victims is the son of one of my best friends. We have been friends and have worked together for many years. This kid was a model young citizen. He was a college graduate, worked for a bank and had a beautiful wife and young baby. He was enjoying a hobby. Who would have ever thought that a young kid from West Virginia would be wiped out in a second 800 miles from home by an idiot with a handgun. His brother was at my shop on Thursday. I belong to the NRA and I have numerous guns, don't want of give up any of them, but how to we stop this craziness? Do we crawl under a rock and never go anywhere? I don't have the answer, do you?
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The shooter did not belong to the NRA. The shooter belonged to a group that was actively violent towards the president of the United States.
 
One thing is 100% for sure, the answer will never come from any government action or law, that is exactly what got us to this point in the first place. Crazy people have always existed, when the family units in this country were strong and had full control over the raising of children the crazy children were dealt with by the only people who truly knew what they were capable of, the parents. Parents kept their disturbed offspring away from the situations and people who made them flare up, I'm sure anyone over 50 can probably remember a cousin or some other relation that everyone knew was ''off'' but whom was managed by their immediate family, if they were lunatics that same family had them put away. If I had a child who I thought needed intervention at any age I would intervene, when my youngest Son was going through a bitter divorce I made him bring his firearms to my house and my Wife and I monitored him closely and we did not take anything for granted, people do things when they are extremely stressed that they would never contemplate otherwise.
 
2 things come to mind on what you said. Spare the rod and spoil the child is one. The second it back in the late 50s and early 60s when married women joined the work force a lot of how a child was raised also went out the door and how a child was parented changed not for the better but for the worse
 
Somebody needs to get Marty mcflys time machine and go back and make sure guns were never invented but then we would just find another way to kill each other
 
OK here we go. On one side it's the evil gun and on the other it's the evil video games.

Look at this. Given the shooter age he's one of these youngsters who grew up playing games like in school where there were no winners or losers. He also came up through a system that did not allow you to express anger. So now as a young adult he has anger issues and doesn't no how to lose. Has nothing to do with the gun or the video game and everything to do with conditioning.

Rick
 
> The shooter did not belong to the NRA. The shooter belonged to a group that was actively violent towards the president of the United States.

Well, it's good to know the shooter wasn't a Russian, then.
 
It does leave a person on edge doesn't it? I was at a college graduation in May and when I heard a door behind me click open during the ceremony it made me turn around and give a nervous look.
 
The story I hear is that the shooter has had mental problems and has been treated. The shooter bought the guns legally. Ever hear this story before?

I am not saying every person with mental problems is a shooter...... BUT, it seems every shooter has mental problems. Hell, any person who shoots another person, HAS MENTAL PROBLEMS! Even in crimes of passion.

This great country is losing it's moral compass. Single parent families, political correctness, nobody loses. How about the teacher that punished the kid for being polite? Have you noticed how the black and progressive leaders seem to ignore the killings in the Democratic controlled cities?

Gun Control????? Seems as though these shooting end when the second gun shows up.

WAKE UP AMERICA Get 60% of working Americans to the poles and this abundant progressiveness will end!

Bill
 
(quoted from post at 21:46:04 08/27/18) It seems the shooter had a history of mental illness. Yet he was able to "legally" purchase two handguns. I say "legally" in quotes since his mental health history should have barred him from firearms ownership. Clearly he passed the instant background check at least twice.
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Where did you get this info? His home state of Maryland requires a license and Florida does not allow face to face purchases for out of staters (near as I can tell you have to send it to an FFL in your home state) and there appears to be a 3 day waiting period. So either this psycho somehow managed to get through all the background checks and investigation in Md and get a license and take his gun to Florida or he got the gun illegally. And yes, since he's was under treatment for mental issues he was barred in both Md and Florida from obtaining a gun.

If he did somehow manage to legally obtain a gun, then that is a fine example of the mental health industry not doing it's job and informing law enforcement or the licensing agency.
 
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At ome time the NRA was all about the hunter and his/her right to own firearms for that purpose. Their propaganda has turned into something ugly, and has very little to do with the sport hunters that wanted to keep their hunting weopons.
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Horse puckey. The NRA has been fighting for the rights of law abiding gun owners since the 1930's. Whats' more, if NRA doesn't fight for our rights, who will? You talk of "propaganda"? Propaganda is pushing the idea that NRA members are not only supporting the idea that nuts should be able to get guns, but that NRA members are doing the killing. That is 100% propaganda, and you seem to buy into it.
 

The fault of this kind of thing lies in two places:

First the insistence by some people to keep creating and trying to enforce the slaughter (gun free) zones. By creating shooting galleries where it is guaranteed that law-abiding citizens will not be armed for defense they encourage this. The specific incident this time was, of course, in a declared slaughter zone.

Second, the insistence by some people to do away with moral right vs wrong education and encouraging the notion that the culture should not insist on a certain moral code of conduct. As a matter of fact NOT all cultures are equal and NOT all personal religious views are acceptable if one wants to live with the rest of us. We must insist on training moral behaviors in the schools.

All the blood from this incident as well as the school incidents is directly on the hands of the load-mouthed dimwits who insist that we cannot have religion or morals, and that we cannot defend ourselves in every location.

I sure do wish we could stop the politics on this forum, but I cannot let things that our ruining our country go unchallenged. Anti-gun leftists are the enemies of the people and should be rounded up and treated like the enemies they are.
 
Voluntarily seeking treatment does not disqualify one. If the people providing treatment believe you to be a hazard to yourself or others, they can have you disqualified.

Being legally committed to treatment is supposed to disqualify one. So be careful about calling the authorities for a welfare check if you're worried about someone. You could be piling more onto whatever they're already dealing with.
 
For over 70 years, in the 30s.

NRA was founded by union generals after the
civil war to promote civilian firearms
ownership and marksmanship, seeing how poor
the majority of recruits were at shooting.

Freed slaves, who were dealing with the kkk
at the time, were not excluded.
 
Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about. The 2nd amendment has nothing to do with hunting.


The National Rifle Association of America (NRA) is an American nonprofit organization that advocates for gun rights. Founded in 1871, the group has informed its members about firearm-related legislation
since 1934, and it has directly lobbied for and against firearms legislation since 1975.

Founded to advance rifle marksmanship, the modern NRA continues to teach firearm safety and competency. The organization also publishes several magazines and sponsors competitive marksmanship events.
According to the NRA, it has 6 million members as of May 2018.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association
 
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(quoted from post at 00:38:21 08/28/18)
At ome time the NRA was all about the hunter and his/her right to own firearms for that purpose. Their propaganda has turned into something ugly, and has very little to do with the sport hunters that wanted to keep their hunting weopons.
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Boy talk about modifying history.

You do know that way back when the 2nd Amendment was first add to the constitution that our founding father knew that civilians had legal access to every weapon the military did? And in fact they had access to better weapons. The Army was still using the same smooth bore musket they used fighting the Brits. Had an accurate range of about 50 yards. 75 if you got a real good one. Militias that formed to fight the Brits were largely equipped with the Pennsylvania Long Rifle that had an accurate range of 200 yards. Plus civilians could by cannons and anything else the army had. Both the North and South marched off to war with muzzle loading rifles when by the time the Civil War started the repeating rifle had been in civilian hands for 5 or 6 years. When Custer died at Little Big Horn his troops were equipped with single shot rifles (breech loading) while a lot of the Indians had level guns. Not only was Custer out numbered he was out gunned too. Around 1905 auto loading rifles were in civilian hands yet the US military when to war in 1917 with bolt guns. Even the AR platform rifle was in civilian hands by 1956, converted to 223/5.56 (AR15) in 1959 and finally adopted by the US military in 1963 as the M16.

Rick
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I often think it is funny how many who attack the 2nd amendment do not read it close enough and they do not see one reason for it was so the civilians can protect them self's from the government. With out fire arm we the people are likely to end up with no rights much like Germany did back in the late 38s
 
(quoted from post at 12:12:50 08/28/18) I often think it is funny how many who attack the 2nd amendment do not read it close enough and they do not see one reason for it was so the civilians can protect them self's from the government. With out fire arm we the people are likely to end up with no rights much like Germany did back in the late 38s
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Even more amusing than that is the fact that those who say the power to take life ( with a firearm) should be left to the police, are the first to protest or otherwise criticize law enforcement when the law enforce does take life. Most of the time they attack the judgement of the police long before the full story is even known. I also find it amusing those who refuse to own firearms are more then happy to call law enforcement and are just thrilled when not only they show up armed. But when THEY take life on the callers behalf. Kind of like saying its immoral to butcher a hog but I sure do love the taste of store bought bacon.

Sod Buster
 
(quoted from post at 11:06:51 08/28/18) Voluntarily seeking treatment does not disqualify one.
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Depends on the state as far as action by local authorities and I'm pretty sure it disqualifies you on the 4473.
 
(quoted from post at 11:19:04 08/28/18) For over 70 years, in the 30s.
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Yes, NRA was formed in 1871, but they started working on gun rights during the 1930's when the first national firearms act was passed in '34 IIRC. I have National Rifleman magazines from that period in which they go on at length about legislative issues related to firearms.
 
Do you really need to ask that question? I always thought the best way to flush out a liar is to ask a question that you already know the answer.
 
I agree with everyone on here about a broken society. An it starts right in our schools. It's not about education but a feel good thing.
Striving to do good is not rewarded, everyone gets a ribbon no matter how crappy the work is. So when you go to the workplace to find a job, guess what, not everybody gets a ribbon. Not everyone is going to be a rocket scientist, some are going to have to do menial work! I talked to several college students, and ask what are you going to do when you get out....Oh, social work, sports medicine, art major, English major, teaching, on and on. What background do you have? McDonalds, Jim's ice cream shop, pizza delivery...…….. Ever do any REAL work, as in manual labor??? Uhh, not really! I'm pretty good at Game of Thrones! Can you fix some of the stuff on your own car? Like change the oil, replace the brakes, etc. How you going to pay off your college loans? Can you make change without a calculator or your phone? Can you write in longhand? I mean besides signing your name? How many of your college professors believe in the Second Amendment? Where does hamburger come from? How many can answer these?
As for gun control....it's like castrating me because my neighbors got too many kids.

Rant over. Sorry for the long post, hope this isn't considered political!

Irv
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Another thing..… a friend told me yesterday that her son had a list of things he was supposed to bring to school. One was a dozen pencils.....she sent three and figured that would be plenty for him if he took care of them. The teacher said, Oh no, we need 12 because we put them all in a common box so the kiddies that don't bring any will have one!!!!! No only that, we also have lunch provided and now breakfast, and now have someone on the school board that wants to send meals home for the weekend!!! Well, yes, the parents got to pay for their tatoos, piercings, and cell phone with their social stipend. and can't be bothered with that!

Boy, I'm really crabby tonight, aren't I?

Irv :evil:
 
Another thing..… a friend told me yesterday that her son had a list of things he was supposed to bring to school. One was a dozen pencils.....she sent three and figured that would be plenty for him if he took care of them. The teacher said, Oh no, we need 12 because we put them all in a common box so the kiddies that don't bring any will have one!!!!! No only that, we also have lunch provided and now breakfast, and now have someone on the school board that wants to send meals home for the weekend!!! Well, yes, the parents got to pay for their tatoos, piercings, and cell phone with their social stipend. and can't be bothered with that!

Boy, I'm really crabby tonight, aren't I?

Irv :evil:
 


Dasiyman, some years back, lets say close to 20 years ago, I was riding with a brand new recruit Trooper. Nice enough kid, but really struggling to get with the little things. You know, showing up for work early instead of 5-10 minutes late, writing descriptions in reports you could understand, spelling (pre-auto correct days) big words like "store", "vehicle" and "witness", putting the keys to the Troop car where someone else could actually find them, not running the car out of gas and not filling it up, answer the phone when it rang, you know, the little stuff. Mind you this was just after we'd changed to having to have some college credits instead of just a high school diploma or, (shudder!), GED. So, being the kind, fatherly figure I am, I asked him what his background was. He proceeded to begin to tell me his lifes story. I got him to fast forward to between highschool and the present moment. "Oh, I went to college." "Uh-huh", says I. "And how long were you in college?" "4 years, why?", says he. I wondered, "Did you ever work?" He got a puzzled look on his face. "You know, a job?" He replies, "Well, I worked one night at a pizza shop. It was awful." That told me pretty much all I needed to know and I counseled him on just what was expected of him now that he was a great big boy with a real gun and badge and paycheck and guys that were depending on him to be to work on time and to back them up when things went south and to carry his own weight and not act like some sissy boy putz.

I might have gotten a little rougher about it than he was used to...
 
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Dasiyman, some years back, lets say close to 20 years ago, I was riding with a brand new recruit Trooper. Nice enough kid, but really struggling to get with the little things. You know, showing up for work early instead of 5-10 minutes late, writing descriptions in reports you could understand, spelling (pre-auto correct days) big words like "store", "vehicle" and "witness", putting the keys to the Troop car where someone else could actually find them, not running the car out of gas and not filling it up, answer the phone when it rang, you know, the little stuff. Mind you this was just after we'd changed to having to have some college credits instead of just a high school diploma or, (shudder!), GED. So, being the kind, fatherly figure I am, I asked him what his background was. He proceeded to begin to tell me his lifes story. I got him to fast forward to between highschool and the present moment. "Oh, I went to college." "Uh-huh", says I. "And how long were you in college?" "4 years, why?", says he. I wondered, "Did you ever work?" He got a puzzled look on his face. "You know, a job?" He replies, "Well, I worked one night at a pizza shop. It was awful." That told me pretty much all I needed to know and I counseled him on just what was expected of him now that he was a great big boy with a real gun and badge and paycheck and guys that were depending on him to be to work on time and to back them up when things went south and to carry his own weight and not act like some sissy boy putz.

I might have gotten a little rougher about it than he was used to...
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Now that's funny. I had a kid assigned to me in 89 IIRC. He decided he didn't like Army life and went AWOL. About 2 weeks later he came back and brought mommy with him in case the Army was mean to him.......

Rick
 
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Dasiyman, some years back, lets say close to 20 years ago, I was riding with a brand new recruit Trooper. Nice enough kid, but really struggling to get with the little things. You know, showing up for work early instead of 5-10 minutes late, writing descriptions in reports you could understand, spelling (pre-auto correct days) big words like "store", "vehicle" and "witness", putting the keys to the Troop car where someone else could actually find them, not running the car out of gas and not filling it up, answer the phone when it rang, you know, the little stuff. Mind you this was just after we'd changed to having to have some college credits instead of just a high school diploma or, (shudder!), GED. So, being the kind, fatherly figure I am, I asked him what his background was. He proceeded to begin to tell me his lifes story. I got him to fast forward to between highschool and the present moment. "Oh, I went to college." "Uh-huh", says I. "And how long were you in college?" "4 years, why?", says he. I wondered, "Did you ever work?" He got a puzzled look on his face. "You know, a job?" He replies, "Well, I worked one night at a pizza shop. It was awful." That told me pretty much all I needed to know and I counseled him on just what was expected of him now that he was a great big boy with a real gun and badge and paycheck and guys that were depending on him to be to work on time and to back them up when things went south and to carry his own weight and not act like some sissy boy putz.

I might have gotten a little rougher about it than he was used to...
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Now that's funny. I had a kid assigned to me in 89 IIRC. He decided he didn't like Army life and went AWOL. About 2 weeks later he came back and brought mommy with him in case the Army was mean to him.......

Rick
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Ha! We had a fairly new Troopers wife come in and DEMAND the Sgt schedule him to only work days because "working nights is too dangerous". Not only did she leave disappointed, but he didn't know she was coming in and pretty much had to transfer to escape the shame of it all. :lol:
 
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Yea we had a few of those too. Bad part was you didn't get transferred because of that in the Army. You just had to stay there and take it. I had a kid, kinda on the big side, on my tank crew. He failed both a weigh in and a physical fitness test on the same day. I put him on remedial PT. That means he did PT in the morning with the Troop (Armored Cav Regiment) plus again in the evenings and on weekends with me. He had 30 days to pass the PT test and a doctor was supposed to determine how fast he could loose weight safely. The remedial PT got in the way of his wife's weekend plans. She actually came into the Troop and told me what she thought of me. Poor boy had to live with that cause I told everyone! OH at the end of the 30 days of remedial PT? He not only passed well above minimum standards he also passed a weigh in.

Rick
 
Good on you Bret for the counciling! It's hard to believe how ill prepared a lot of our high school and college students are for real life. Sad, really. How are they going to cope with the stresses of real life? Once you're though school, you can't go back and do it all again. It's my suggestion that kids out of high school should have to get a job for a couple years and pay their own way, then go to college. I'm sure life might look a little different then. Buying your own gas and groceries and insurance seems to look a little burdersome!!

Irv
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Good on you Bret for the counciling! It's hard to believe how ill prepared a lot of our high school and college students are for real life. Sad, really. How are they going to cope with the stresses of real life? Once you're though school, you can't go back and do it all again. It's my suggestion that kids out of high school should have to get a job for a couple years and pay their own way, then go to college. I'm sure life might look a little different then. Buying your own gas and groceries and insurance seems to look a little burdersome!!

Irv
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