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(quoted from post at 04:31:26 08/16/18) According to the news this morning most likely you'll be getting it in your cereal you eat for breakfast.As they say in the restaurants.Enjoy!(LOL)
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Yes, neither of the ones that I eat are on the list, and I would have to eat 1180 pounds more per day to reach the dangerous amount, LOL.
 
Gov't used to say tobacco,asbestos and lead paint were OK too,you can always trust what the Gov't says that's for sure.Gov't also says there is Man Made Global Warming,you OK with that?
 
An very older friend of mine worked in a dairy farm here in NJ when he was a young man.He said the farms used to spray DDT all over the inside of the barn to fight insects etc,It was used and promoted like it as the best thing since sliced bread.Government approved at that time.
 
I'm just telling the rest of the story FAKE NEWS reported. My news gave both sides of the story.

The only good thing about roundup is the news media has a new bone to chew on.
No more Stormy, OH my rosa, #me too, #my life matters, #protests, priests, ect.
 
Since George brought it up, think about #me too. When I grew up and finally got a touch tone phone, the # key was called the pound sign. Soooooo, #metoo reads as "pound me too". I don't think they thought it through. Probably gonna get the skillet for this one.
 
Maybe not but there are millions of Soccer Moms all across the USA this morning that are shocked and upset that the chemical is in their kid's food. And I'm sure most don't care what the Gov't standard is they want Zero parts per million in their kid's cereal.There is a PR battle going on over food in this country in case you missed it and the chemical side is getting their
pants beat off.How long before companies like General Mills will not buy grain with ANY Roundup residue?
 
4520bw,
I found in 2012 an article about roundup and after scientific review, they retracted it.

Some people have waged war against Roundup. All scientific discoveries are held up to pier review.

Time will tell who did the research and how accurate is their conclusion.
retracted
 
They are all upset over something that is less dangerous to your health than swallowing your alit after brushing your teeth. Gotta love the fake news these days.
 
All I can say.

They told us Agent Orange was harmless to humans. Thousands of us can prove them wrong.

We were told fracking was harmless. They can come to my neighbor hood. I can prove them wrong.
 
Round up is a heck of alot better than the stuff we would be using. Alot of this bad info is being by the tree hugger crowd. I went to farm aid a few years ago and all I heard was complaining about monsanito.
 
There's no telling what chemicals are in anything you eat. The alternative would be a lot less food in the stores at a much higher price. Then there would be lead poisoning at the stores from shoot outs from people fighting over food.
 
Back in the 50's there was a grain surplus when no farmer I know used any chemicals other than some fertilizer to grow all types of crops.Soil Bank,Corn Bank,Wheat quotas were all
created to cut the glut of grain.The "We are all going to Starve" bloody flag waving is Fake News.
 
(quoted from post at 08:55:51 08/16/18) An very older friend of mine worked in a dairy farm here in NJ when he was a young man.He said the farms used to spray DDT all over the inside of the barn to fight insects etc,It was used and promoted like it as the best thing since sliced bread.Government approved at that time.
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Yeah, because DDT could pretty much wipe out several insect borne diseases around the world, like malaria. But DDT was also one of the first chems banned even though there was no proof it caused any problems. No proof it caused cancer in humans, no proof it thinned Eagle eggs, no proof it was bad at all. The people out to ban it knew that and went ahead anyway. Anything can be harmful in high enough doses, even pure water. But politics trumps science a lot of the time.

https://spectator.org/48925_ddt-fraud-and-tragedy/
 
News report I saw said it was in oats - didn't know there was a round up ready oat. Is there such an oat or is there more to the story. Maybe someone sped up getting their oats dried down by spraying with Roundup. Maybe someone not following the rules?
 
All these people being concerned over parts per BILLION, they'd poop their pants if they knew how much insect parts, rodent feces, etc. were allowed in your food. Of course insect parts, and rodent feces are "natural" so they might be OK (NOT LOL). Most of these trace amounts were not even detectable not that long ago, used to be parts per thousand, then million, now billion, and getting finer all the time.
 
When I was bicycle riding age in the Houston area they had war surplus jeeps with spray rigs. About once a week in the summer they would come through the neighborhood spraying DDT as we had horrible mosquitoes. Buddies and I used to have a ball riding our bikes through it every time we heard the pumps running. I'm in better health than a lot of people today. Did I miss something?
 
Round up is used here to spray before harvest all the time. Millers will no longer take any oats sprayed with round up as it does not mill like naturally dried down oats. Something about it turning to flour instead of rolled oats.
 
Do you think this might affect the amount of food needed? If you want to go back to 1950s growing techniques you will have to go back to 50s populations too. Maybe you would volunteer to stop eating so someone else doesn't have to atarvebto satisfy your desires.
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There are millions of acres of land in the USA and worldwide that could be put into food production.Take Brazil they are the US producers biggest competitor now.Anyway as an American
I'm concerned with our citizens and our food,the rest of the world needs to solve their own problems.
 
That's only true if you put organic milk on it. The rBST in the commercial stuff neutralizes glyphosate.
 
BTW I grow most all my food.Organically too,would be a good thing for others to do but most are too lazy these days to have a garden.Hunger is a big motivator so maybe it'll happen.
 
One out of every 4 deaths in the world is heart disease from smoking. And yes there have been lawsuits over that too with large awards but it didn't put the tobacco companies out of business. In fact in my part of the country it seems as if smoking is on the rise again. Oh wait maybe it was the round up sprayed on the tobacco that caused the heart disease
 
All sounds a bit like the Vomitoxin BS. You would have to eat like more than 10 loaves of bread each day to even be able to possibly get sick from it. What a scam it is. Just a way to dock wheat something terrible. Then you pull a diferent sample from the same load and none found. Heard of many stories where the load was rejected at Jiffy milling. The guys go to the back of the line retested and all is fine.
 
Roundup is used on a very large percent of corn -soybean production some say as high as 90 %. If it was found in oats, I don't think that it was even labelled for that use. If an off label use that is a user problem. If you find so many parts per billion in a sample is that knowledge even useful at that amount if below the government standard. It was invented 42 yrs ago and in widespread ag use for 20 yrs. How has it been in use for so long and no harmful effects have been found until now.
 
The same people that condemn the use of Roundup are the same people that frequently visit the local golf coarse that have some of the highest chemical use. They walk the greens pick up and chew on the Tees, Kiss the balls and that's all "A-OK", but heavens forbid a farmer uses Roundup to help control the weeds in order to feed these people.

What about all the chemicals that the vast majority of Americans use to clean there house or wash / wax their cars? The average American uses a lot more chemicals than any farmer does, but they are better than the rest of use and like to pick on the Round up users.

If I privately fund a research to say Clorox causes cancer, I bet the results will show that it does. Then again eating bacon causes cancer too...
 
You miss the point if someone doesn't want it in their food they don't want it,no matter the reason or what some Gov't bureaucrat decided after being taken out to an expensive evening by a chemical company lobbyist.If you stopped people going into a grocery store and showed them two loaves of bread or any other food and said Food A has chemical residues below Gov't approved levels and Food B has no chemical residue.How many would choose Food A? Very few would be my guess.
 
Good thing most folks have enough sense not to pay any attention to the politicaly correct propaganda outlets they call news.

No one is dumb enough to believe round up or any other chemical is good to ingest. Problem is there is no where on the planet you can avoid investing some. Only way to do it is to stop eating and breathing. Don't think that will be too good for your health.

Like it or not there are Necessary evils in this world.
 
I agree, but what would they choose if the chemical free shelf was empty due to low yields and the other was full?
 
I think most folks given the choice of some parts per billion or NO FOOD they would take the chance, just never going back to no chemical farming , at least on large scale farming.
 
(quoted from post at 11:12:04 08/16/18) BTW I grow most all my food.Organically too,would be a good thing for others to do but most are too lazy these days to have a garden.Hunger is a big motivator so maybe it'll happen.
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You appear to be a man who's got his head on straight. A rarity indeed.
 
IF they were the same price, but if food "A" is 99 cents, and food "B" is $2.99 you would sell very little "B".
 
Glyphosate is commonly used as a desiccant prior to harvesting oats and some other grain crops. In many ways it serves the same purpose as what swathing would do by burning down weeds and getting the grain to dry faster and more evenly. When used for this purpose there is a minimum number of days specified between spraying and combining.
 
. Organic lovers your getting raw manure in your vegetables and you meat has worms and disease . And you milk Tastes funny because of all the rag weed the cows eat
 
Grandpa Charlie sprayed lead and arsenic mixture on apples and peaches, watermelons and cantalopes for many years. My Pop sprayed DDT on strawberries, watermelons and cantalopes for years. There was no way nor any attempt to wash any of this stuff off in years past, that was not even considered in years past. EPA stopped sale and manufacture of Difolatan years ago, a fungicide I used one year many decades ago. Things I use now are applied in strict compliance with the EPA-approved label requirements. I have no worries about Roundup. In fact, I've used it for 30+ years.
 
I was told the US services sprayed the soldiers and sailors with DDT for lice. I don't know if it is true or not. joe
 
True to a certain extent,to sell something you have to do 2 things 1)Convince the prospective buyer they want or need the product 2)How they can pay for it.So number 1 is already been done its number 2 that has to be worked on, but the more people want or think they need something the more more willing they are to pay the cost.
 
We complain about the cost of Drugs. Sooner or later, it's almost a certainty the drug company will get sued just like chemical companies. So who's fault is it? Lawyers? Someone looking to make a buck?
 
Boy does that bring back memories.....grew up on the Tx. coast & every evening the DDT spray rigs would come thru the neighborhoods. It sure put a hurt on the mosquitoes!
 
What will people do when they realize all this food is grown in DIRT! Put that on the ingredient label too.
 
Way back in the good ole days of farming before Roundup, row crop production involved 2 or 3 cultivations to get to 70-75 % weed control thru a growing season and if a yield was 140 on corn that was considered good. With a newer generation of chemicals, advances in farming methods and no cultivation, weed control has moved to 95-97% control in some areas. Weed control with chemicals is part of the reason yields have advanced in some areas to 200 on corn. Doubtful many farmers can afford to go back in time and settle for 140 corn yields. A very small segment of farms are reverting to organic production, many cultivations again and fulfilling a market segment and that maybe 10% of the commodity market.
 
fall isn't strong enough without chemicals ect there would be mass famine here in the USA we just cannot live with 100 bu corn and 20bu beans
 
I just finished if a person would drink lots of water it could kill them.
so I guess the answer is drink more beer oh wait that starts with water too.
 
(quoted from post at 08:56:12 08/16/18) Don't they make genetic roundup?
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Did you mean [b:bf563f887d]generic[/b:bf563f887d]? Glyphosate is the active chemical in RoundUp and can be found in a number of other products, Eraser is the first that comes to mind.
BillL
 
your playing both sides of the issue by claiming its ok to reduce production by eliminating modern practices and then claiming shortages won't occur. You sound like a typical zealot, only looking at what you want to believe and ignoring reality.
 
I grew up about 2 miles from Telephone road. Does bring back memories.....note....the ice cream truck didn't drive down a concrete road by my house, it was crushed Oyster shells and the ditches were open.....so we could Crawdad with a piece of string and slice of bacon. "Thanks for the memories (melody)........."
 
Years a go when my city cousins came to vist grandma. us kids went out to grandma's garden to get vegatables for stew. The city kids could not believe grandma kept her carrots and potatoes in the dirt! Guess they thought they grew on trees.
 
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