Anyone work or haul gas for Marathon Oil?

Does anyone work or haul gas for Marathon refinery?

Robinson, Ill has a Marathon refinery. This is were most of the gas sold in my area comes from.

In 2006, Marathon began using STP-branded additives in its gasoline.

The epa requires a minimum amount of detergent.

So question for the people who works for Marathon. What is the EPA minimum amount of detergent? Can anyone confirm detergent added to all gas is STP?

If you haul gas from one of Marathon's refinery you should be able to tell from the manafest how much detergent is added or if it's Marathon's top tier gas.

Article says Speedway LLC is owned by Marathon. Does Speedway sell the EPA minimum detergent or Top Tier?
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you can not tell from manifest what the detergent is or how much ....must have lab test .....30 years in the business

Thanks,
Can you tell from the manifest that additional detergent was added? Does manifest say what gas station it's destined for?

A Marathon Owner said it's on the manifest. Guess I'll have to ask to see the manifest.

not on any I have ever seen..... I see them daily from all different oil companies

OK, I'll bite, George. I've worked in lots of refineries, including Robinson (and Garyville, Texas City Marathon, and may other company refineries).

But you need to ask a question.

Gasoline additives are hype. Shell V-Power, Phillips Ultra Clean, etc. All refineries, and I mean all, produce basic gasoline which meets octane requirements to be 85, 87, 89, etc. This is based on formulation. Then an additive package is added at the truck rack depending on what the driver orders when he cards in. You can haul Shell gasoline from Marathon Robinson or Marathon gasoline from Phillips 66 Wood River.

Additives do provide benefit, but personally I buy the cheapest gas I can buy. The jobber can't buy it from a cheap source, it all comes from a refinery which has tested and met all specifications for basic gasoline. Speedway will sell you the cheapest additive package they can and it will not be the premium Marathon package whether Marathon owns them or not. And the gasoline likely does not come from a Marathon refinery anyway, it will be cheap pipeline gas which has no home and the pipeline operator has to dump it. Companies like Speeday make their profit by selling what unbranded gasoline they can buy cheaply. I buy Speedway when I'm in their marketing area. But I usually put 300,000 miles on a vehicle before I trade so I just burn fuel and don't worry about the vehicle lasting 100 years.

I do not believe most of the gasoline in your area comes from Robinson, nor that all the Marathon gasoline in your area comes from Robinson.

Gulf Interstate, Marathon, Shell, Buckeye and others have refined products pipelines which run through Indiana in your area and all have terminals and sell and transfer gasolines of various grades all over the state. Gasoline is also likely hauled from Wood River, Lemont, Joliet and BP's giant refinery at Whiting, Indiana.

So what is your point?

Thank you for your reply.

You have answered questions I had about quality of gas and where detergent additives are added.


I didn't know Speedway uses the cheapest gas it can find and it may not be Marathon.

"You can haul Shell gasoline from Marathon Robinson or Marathon gasoline from Phillips 66 Wood
River."

Shell advertises their gas has V-tech detergent. So at the Marathon refinery do they add Shell's
detergent or do all gas gets the same detergent?

Marathon advertises STP is added to their gas. Is that true or is just an advertising gimmick?

Like Andy said it's all the same till it loaded on the truck. I got a load of off road diesel that was not dyed red so I filled up the semis and pickups. At work all our standard fuel comes from Countrymark Mt. Vernon refinery, about 15,000 gallon a day.

4520bw,
I'm confused, I thought off road diesel was red and no road tax. So how can you be using it in semi and trucks?

All diesel is the same just dyed for tax reasons. I ordered off road fuel and the terminal did not add the dye so I ended up with tax free clear fuel. Trust me George alot of trucks run red fuel!

red fuel,
place I used to work for building logging roads ran red fuel in their ugleys (off road dump trucks). We would buy 3 day trip permits to move from one job to the next.
One day I was working in the shop and IIRC ATF showed up and started dipping tanks, I drove off in my service truck (don't ask)
They said even with a trip permit you need to run taxed fuel.
ended up costing him 75 grand per truck and 50 cents for every gallion he had in his 10,000 gal tank
$275,000

So what is your point?

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'Seems to me like Geo has run out of inane battery questions and has moved on to gasoline questions. (Just my humble observation!)

He bought a new car that the owners manual says needs hi=detergent fuel.
Here at Abilene all gasolhol comes in a pipeline from an Alon refrinery in Big Spring, Texas. The terminal has at least a half dozen tanks for additives. There is a separate pipeline (from where?) and terminal for diesel.

I was confused, guess at my age I'm entitled.
I heard where many farmers got busted. Can't remember the event they were attending, but they found red diesel in campers and pickups.

No idea why I've become extremely to the smell of diesel and diesel exhaust. I think it might be all the seat time I had as a kid on a diesel tractor.

So everything I have is gas and I use a lot of gas. That's why I asking about top tier fuels. I take advantage of Kroger's fuel points. Last month I had 3000 points. That's a buck off 35 gallons for each 1000 points. I can easily buy 35 gallons 3x a month saving $105 on gas.

I found a good deal on amazon, lucas gas treatment and STP gas treatment. Plan to treat Kroger gas for pennies per gallon. I plan it use it in Kaw mule with fuel injection and terramite with kohler engine. Kohler recommends manually removing carbon. No way. With 1950 hours on kohler, I feel like it's on borrowed time, so want to do everything I can to extend it.

I also plan to carry a few bottles of STP in car. Just incase I can't find a gas station with top tier when I'm traveling.

(quoted from post at 16:37:28 08/01/18) Thank you for your reply.

You have answered questions I had about quality of gas and where detergent additives are added.

I didn't know Speedway uses the cheapest gas it can find and it may not be Marathon.

"You can haul Shell gasoline from Marathon Robinson or Marathon gasoline from Phillips 66 Wood
River."

Shell advertises their gas has V-tech detergent. So at the Marathon refinery do they add Shell's
detergent or do all gas gets the same detergent?

Marathon advertises STP is added to their gas. Is that true or is just an advertising gimmick?

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I don't like the word detergent, let's call it an additive package. Contains octane boosters, detergents, preservatives, lubricants, etc.

If you were to go into a truck terminal you would see each different additive tank which is usually owned by the marketer. for instance, Shell will own the additive tank with V-tech additive in it. They loan it to the terminal as long as the terminal is selling their gas, and it becomes their gas when it gets the additive. The buyer (distributor's truck driver) buys what he wants off a selection of products. He is buying what he has orders for.

There are generic additive packages and some companies will allow their additives to be sold unbranded. So you may find Speedway has an agreement to add someone else's additive package to their raw gasoline. I don't know.

As others have correctly said, don't worry about additives when you're traveling. Several tankfuls of gasoline with a weaker additive package are not going to do harm to your engine. When you go back to the high priced spread you'll undo any issues you may have created. A good plan is to burn Speedway except for the first tank full in a particular calendar quarter. You don't need to burn the good stuff all the time.

I don't understand the AAA test but feel it does not give a true picture of engine longevity. I've never been bent out of shape over the top tier gasolines and routinely burn Murphy from Walmart as they are convenient and priced right. I also use QuikTrip but it is not convenient.

Our gasoline in Tulsa comes from our two Tulsa refineries (I was maintenance superintendent in one), Williams pipeline and Explorer pipeline, both from Houston. No telling who refined their gasoline but I'm sure Murphy gasoline is not from their El Dorado, AR refinery but it has the Murphy additive package. It is not a top tier package.

I have never had an engine problem, gasoline, oil or other related so I really don't know but have put a lot of miles on several cars. Some of my cars may have been carboned up at 250,000 miles but they ran and sold just fine. The bodies wear out first.

Andy Martin provided the correct answer.

I made my living for a long time by hauling gas from refineries and pipeline terminals, to bulk plants and gas stations.

It all comes out of common storage tanks. All gasoline has the minimum amount of additives required by law. Some brand name gasolines use additive packages that allow them to make the claim that "ours is better than-----because-----". Some branded gasolines do use a higher level of detergent additives than what is mandated by law, but it isn't much.

Also, like Andy, I buy my gas wherever it's the cheapest, regardless of brand.

(Just my humble observation!)
Can't you find something kind to say?

(quoted from post at 15:10:33 08/02/18) (Just my humble observation!)
Can't you find something kind to say?

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I thought the same thing, but decided it was not worth a response.