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Steve@Advance
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Lots to choose from, LED is the way to go.
You can make any style operate automatically by adding a photo cell.
LED Dusk to Dawn
You can make any style operate automatically by adding a photo cell.
LED Dusk to Dawn
LED, look at the Keystone corncob LED direct replacements, 120V to 277V just remove the ballast and screw it into the existing fixture, add a photo-cell if you need one, there a lot of options out there, last shop I worked for used a lot of Keystone products, they even have HO LED lamps for signs, great products, may need to find them at the wholesale house.
I?m done with lighting, finally moved to an industrial control contractor, it?s mostly what I have done for years, last shop had 6 guys including me, this one over 600 and 35 in industrial controls, good luck, lots of options out there.
I?m done with lighting, finally moved to an industrial control contractor, it?s mostly what I have done for years, last shop had 6 guys including me, this one over 600 and 35 in industrial controls, good luck, lots of options out there.
kcm.MN
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[b:a79eafb4b2]lenray [/b:a79eafb4b2]-- We have a yard light provided by the electric company for a small monthly fee. Recently, the photo cell that makes the light come on at dusk and off at dawn started acting up. Power company said they could no longer get replacement parts, but that they had an LED replacement light. It would cost me about another $1 per month (as the lights cost the company more), but use much less power. The crew chief also told me they provide more light, and a white light - not the yellow we were used to.
"More" light? You betcha!! Wow, I can see parts of this yard that I didn't know existed at night! *lol*
The brand/model that they buy, plus the supplier they're forced to buy from means their LED lights are quite expensive. However, similar lights on Amazon are VERY reasonable in price!! Look for the customer reviews - see which lights the Amazon customers are most happy with and what the price is.
Ours looks much like this model, except ours is (I think) 50W or 58W - seems like it was an oddball wattage, like 58W:
https://www.amazon.com/LEONLITE-Pho...78300&sr=8-19&keywords=led+yard+light
If I had to guess, I'd say there is likely still the same weak point in these new LED lights as in older lights, and that is the photo cell. Not sure it'll matter whether you get a $50 light or a $250 light, when the photo cell goes bad, if you can't find another, then the only way to continue using the light is to wire-bypass the photo cell and use 1. a manual switch, or 2. a different photo cell that you "can" buy. However, the cost of these lights keep getting lower and lower, so replacement shouldn't be an issue, other than actually "replacing" one.
Hope this helps.
"More" light? You betcha!! Wow, I can see parts of this yard that I didn't know existed at night! *lol*
The brand/model that they buy, plus the supplier they're forced to buy from means their LED lights are quite expensive. However, similar lights on Amazon are VERY reasonable in price!! Look for the customer reviews - see which lights the Amazon customers are most happy with and what the price is.
Ours looks much like this model, except ours is (I think) 50W or 58W - seems like it was an oddball wattage, like 58W:
https://www.amazon.com/LEONLITE-Pho...78300&sr=8-19&keywords=led+yard+light
If I had to guess, I'd say there is likely still the same weak point in these new LED lights as in older lights, and that is the photo cell. Not sure it'll matter whether you get a $50 light or a $250 light, when the photo cell goes bad, if you can't find another, then the only way to continue using the light is to wire-bypass the photo cell and use 1. a manual switch, or 2. a different photo cell that you "can" buy. However, the cost of these lights keep getting lower and lower, so replacement shouldn't be an issue, other than actually "replacing" one.
Hope this helps.
WOW!
Lots of "BS" in that reply...
While I'm all for LED's and was an "early adopter", do you really believe the power Co. can't get mercury vapor lamp parts, and who is "forcing" them to buy a high-priced lamp from a specific supplier?
Sounds like a good deal for them to save probably 75% of the power the old light used and charge you MORE for the priveledge!
Ya, I know the cost of everything goes up, but why did they explain that with such a line of B.S?
kcm.MN
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Well Bob, I can only go on the info provided to me by the crew chief -- who also happens to be a friend of mine. He's been working there I know for well over 10 years; I think closer to 15.
This is a small electric cooperative; very rural. I don't have the slightest clue how their parts system works, and I doubt they all work the same in every place. But many companies (not just electric companies) are "contracted" to buy their supplies/equipment from a particular supplier. Usually, that means not getting the best deal - but it also means they get priority or other special perks over non-contracted customers.
This is a small electric cooperative; very rural. I don't have the slightest clue how their parts system works, and I doubt they all work the same in every place. But many companies (not just electric companies) are "contracted" to buy their supplies/equipment from a particular supplier. Usually, that means not getting the best deal - but it also means they get priority or other special perks over non-contracted customers.
I have 2 electrical suppliers that have stop sell mercury vapor light bulbs and fixtures. The manufacturing of parts and ballast were to stop
in 2008 according to law passed in 2005 by congress to phase out mercury vapor. What you may be find is places stocked up on mercury vapor
and now are pulling it out of warehouses. From what electrical suppliers have told me Halogen and CFL are going to be phased out over the
next 6 to 7 years.
in 2008 according to law passed in 2005 by congress to phase out mercury vapor. What you may be find is places stocked up on mercury vapor
and now are pulling it out of warehouses. From what electrical suppliers have told me Halogen and CFL are going to be phased out over the
next 6 to 7 years.
Bruce from Can.
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I like the darkness, and it is free !!
Texasmark1
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I bought the LED off ebay. Just leave it on. Super light, doesn't dim down like fluorescent, cheaper to run than FL too. Fits the same socket as a FL, not the MV HV socket. That fixture is probably worn out anyway after 15-20 years. If you want on and off, HD sells the sensors for about 5 bucks. Just wire it in to the power lead when you install the new light fixture.
While on ebay, grab yourself some LED shop lights. You will love yourself for it. As I have said many times before. The money you spend to buy something is gone foever. What's left is what you spent it on.....spend wisely!
While on ebay, grab yourself some LED shop lights. You will love yourself for it. As I have said many times before. The money you spend to buy something is gone foever. What's left is what you spent it on.....spend wisely!
DoubleO7
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Being a purchasing agent has it's perks.
Both ethical and unethical.
pete black
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Been a few years since retirement from the trade but I suspect that mercury vapors are no longer in production and given wag to led's. Mercury, whether florescent or vapor has environmental issues. Outdoor mercury vapor housings are large in size, made or metal, require thick glass lenses to disperse the light correctly and to handle the heat produced by the fixture. Housing size requires larger mounting brackets, bolts and space available on pole. Mercury vapors electrics eye sensors are larger and cost more. They also require maintenance on occasion to replace, ballest, bulbs and sensors. There is also the cost of said maintenance with a crew and truck. LED's cost more in production initially, cheaper to install, less maintenance and service costs, and more pleasing to the eye. Their sensors are built into the fixature, less space in/on fixture for bird/animal intrusion plus they are way more energy efficient. LED's are the future. Now, what Bob said is probably accurate.
"Sounds like a good deal for them to save probably 75% of the power the old light used and charge you MORE for the priveledge!"
"Sounds like a good deal for them to save probably 75% of the power the old light used and charge you MORE for the priveledge!"
LED works good, I put a LED flood light on the side of the building where I used to work. I had to put it up about 15'(because of vandals) and aim it somewhat down to cover the parking lot right in front of the building. One of the gals told me when she came to work early one morning after a snow the light looked like a strobe light. I had to put a shutter over the light sensor so it wouldn't pick up its own light reflecting off the snow. It was only 25W but it was bright.
pete black
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Retired as superintendent of operations for a
electric utility. Not sure of your statement' s
intent but I can assure you that there are eyes,
paper work, accounting and accountability in the
trade. There are many suppliers with many products
and all work towards supplying the products at a
good price plus there are some products that cost
more but are easier, faster and somewhat more
pleasurable to work with so the costs are off set.
most impotant; build/maintain a relationship with a supplier for when those large scale outage events occur ensuring timely delivery of needed maferials.
electric utility. Not sure of your statement' s
intent but I can assure you that there are eyes,
paper work, accounting and accountability in the
trade. There are many suppliers with many products
and all work towards supplying the products at a
good price plus there are some products that cost
more but are easier, faster and somewhat more
pleasurable to work with so the costs are off set.
most impotant; build/maintain a relationship with a supplier for when those large scale outage events occur ensuring timely delivery of needed maferials.
1948CaseVAI
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Depending on their tax status (maybe they are a co-op?) they may not be free to buy from just any supplier.
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