When....Men were Men !!

LittleD

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When men were men, and the women still cared. When I was young farm wives would have a seven course meal waiting for you at noon. That's counting the cake and pie for dessert. Now days the farm wives have jobs in town to make ends meet. So the men have to fend for themselves at meal time.
 
And that's why you always had calluses on the hands and the body was wore out by age 45.
 
Very cool picture; educate me more.....Looks to be "wheat"? threshing machine comes behind them or they haul this to the farm?
 
I remember my Grandfather telling me the story of his uncle going west to work in the harvest, he had three full meals a day, a large snack between meals, and lost 15 pounds.
 
looking closer at the photo i think you are correct.....they seem to be all women which makes the photo even more impressive !
 
Neverfear ...... well now, a guy learns something every day. Never knew that little trick. Amazing .....
 
On my fathers side of the family they either ran or worked for logging crews.They would get up around three,have a little breakfast,and walk to the woods.They would work until about seven,then have a bigger breakfast.At ten they would have another,then a big dinner at noon.At three they would have a little something,then work until dark.Then they were on their own,they had to walk back home for anything else.If they lived more than 2-3 miles from the jobsite a lot of them just laid down next to the boiler and slept right there.My grandfather was the first one to get away from all that,he sold cars and then worked in the navy yard during the war.Most of those guys didn't live very long.The ones that did got out at 30-40 years old,but were mostly crippled up.
 
How much area could a good person cut in an hour? Dad liked to tell that as a young man he could take heat until he tried to keep up with an uncle cutting oats with a scythes. Dad wound up puking from overheating. I think he said his uncle could cut close to a half acre an hour.

A two foot scythe by a four foot swing, with a good rhythmic two second swing time, working 75 percent of the time (45 min per hour) would be: {(2 Ft x 4 Ft) x 1800/Hr x .75 efficiency ] divided by 43,560 Sq Ft per acre = .25 acres per hour, Whew!!!!! I could never do it.

What would a horse drawn binder cut? Would a 5 ft binder x 2.5 MPH walking speed cut around 1.25 acre per hour at 75 percent average efficiency?
 
Now-a-days a off-farm income is needed to bring in a benefits package for the family, that's worth $10 per hour without any wages.
 
Should have a look at "The Scythe Book" by David Tresemer.
Lots of good information on history and using the scythe.
According to the book "Thomas Jefferson's diaries recorded an average of 3 acres reaped a day with a cradle scythe."
Sounds like a lot of ground to cover in one day!
I've have a couple of scythes and once I learned how to adjust and use them properly they have replaced my weedeater and push mower.
 
(quoted from post at 09:08:04 06/30/18) And that's why you always had calluses on the hands and the body was wore out by age 45.

And you were likely dead by 50! Those were not the good old days, those days were horrible! Good riddance to that whole era. Just iistening to my grandfather convinced me I was lucky to be born after mid-20th century.
 
(quoted from post at 15:21:32 06/30/18) I have plenty of callous's on my hands have had since I was 10 or less,, my body is far from wore out and I am way past 45

You're one of the fortunate ones to be holding up so well. I started going downhill at around 45 and nearly came to a stop at around 55. I'm not saying I worked harder than anyone else. It's just the way it goes with some people.
 
the comment about the loggers brings to mind the show I watched, said the average logger back in the day was 5'7" tall, ate 5000 calories a day and weighed 140 pounds. that's a lot of work in anyone's book.
 
Given the height of the grain, I would think that is likely rye that they are scything. I would imagine that fitness clubs were not a viable business in that era!lol
 
That is a fascinating photo, and that and steam is what made this once great country great.

Dean
 
Littled:

I too would like to have a source for this great photo.

Any link or source?

Dean
 
I would almost be that photo was taken of either Hutterites , or Dukabour women cutting grain on a colony farm in western Canada, sometime in the 1920?s.
Our family farm had a lot of orchard on it , around the turn of the 20th century. My Great Grandfather grew grain in between the trees. Of coarse Apple trees were very tall then , not like the dwarf trees you see now. My Grandfather had 5 brothers , my Grandfather being the oldest. Great Grand father and Grandfather would cradle the grain, while the younger boys would come behind tying sheaves , and stooking the grain to dry. My dad told me this story. And he also said that after much of the orchard was cut down and a grain binder purchased, his dad would still always cradle the outside round, so the horses wouldn?t tramp it. My dad would go behind hand tying the sheaves. My dad said he could never hope to keep up with his dad cutting, and my dad could tie sheaves really fast. For those that do not know what a cradle is. A Cradle is basically a scythe with a kind of cage on it to catch the cut grain, each swing should yield enough to make one sheave.
 
notice the title of the first segment of that video is "Inheritable -----", but should be "Inevitable -------".
 
Neverfear (below post) right clicked it and it appears to be a Hungarian photo ..... at least taken by a Hungarian photographer many years ago. Man, don't tangle with a Hungarian woman holding a scythe.
 
I have a photo of 10 Dukabour women pulling a Little Genie plow on a farm in Alberta,,I visited a Dukabour Farm in Alberta a few years ago,,they had some interesting ideas..
 
(quoted from post at 05:49:28 06/30/18)
When men were men, and the women still cared. When I was young farm wives would have a seven course meal waiting for you at noon. That's counting the cake and pie for dessert. Now days the farm wives have jobs in town to make ends meet. So the men have to fend for themselves at meal time.

You insinuate women don't care now. Because their husband can't earn a living and they have to go to work in town? I guess if they cared they could run home during their 30 minute lunch and fix a seven course meal.
 
Yah, I think it's a shame
that a lot of farmers
have to rely on an
outside income in order
to make ends meet.
 
I have my grandfathers sythe that he used when he was young and still cut grain with a sythe. The blade is worn down by over half. Must have cut a lot with it to wear it out that much. I put the blade on a new snath, and learned how to draw the edge out with a hammer. I've used it a little, but I'm too crippled up to stay at it for very long.I also have a shorter blade that, I was told, was used for cutting hay.
 
(quoted from post at 17:19:52 06/30/18) the comment about the loggers brings to mind the show I watched, said the average logger back in the day was 5'7" tall, ate 5000 calories a day and weighed 140 pounds. that's a lot of work in anyone's book.

The film I watched stated that the logging industry lost, on average, a man a day due to accidents. That didn't count the ones that were injured and couldn't work. It was the ones that were killed. That was back in the axe and crosscut saw days.
 
(quoted from post at 15:21:22 06/30/18)
(quoted from post at 17:19:52 06/30/18) the comment about the loggers brings to mind the show I watched, said the average logger back in the day was 5'7" tall, ate 5000 calories a day and weighed 140 pounds. that's a lot of work in anyone's book.

The film I watched stated that the logging industry lost, on average, a man a day due to accidents. That didn't count the ones that were injured and couldn't work. It was the ones that were killed. That was back in the axe and crosscut saw days.

Logging is still very dangerous. Workers comp rate is right around 100%. You pretty much can't have anyone working outside of a cab, unless it is an independent sole proprietor business.
 
The closest I've come to doing this type of work is walking into a wet area of the field and cutting milo maze heads and putting them into a sack.
We would then bring those sacks of heads back to the combine for threshing.
What I notice in the picture is all the windrows are laid over to the right. Watching the videos the windrows are laid over to the left.
Is this just the nature of the grain or a technique of the operator?
 
(quoted from post at 19:41:41 06/30/18) The closest I've come to doing this type of work is walking into a wet area of the field and cutting milo maze heads and putting them into a sack.
We would then bring those sacks of heads back to the combine for threshing.
What I notice in the picture is all the windrows are laid over to the right. Watching the videos the windrows are laid over to the left.
Is this just the nature of the grain or a technique of the operator?

Ray iy is the height of the crop short small crop will get dragged by the scythe, same as a sickle bar, while a more normal tall crop will fall over in the direction that the scythe or sickle bar is coming from.
 
when my parents were young they still cut grain that way, daddy said that each stroke of the scythe cradle was laid on the ground then the women and children would come behind tying the cut into a bundle with straw, if you cut to much at a stroke they would have to spilt it into 2 bundles which slowed the bundling, he said if they got to crowding him he would cut more at one stroke than need for a bundle and wouldn't many times to create a little distance between him and the ones bundling, grain matured around the middle of june in our area usually it was getting hot by then, granddaddy said he was glad to see the mccormick reapers come around.
 

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