off topic but farm, barn equipment shed related .1 st they redid fly bait so it no longer kills racoons around here thats why everyone buys it.need too find somthing else killing out chickens and seet corn is growing. 2nd bought a bucket of tom cat mouse poison for in the barn and garage/ equipment building watched them eat it and run around playing I have put 12 blocks down in the same spot in barn they ate them all and not killing them. what do you guys use for coons and mice? I have shot 2 coons so far
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If you have rats in the barn they are smart and will move the blocks. You think they ate them when all they did was stock pile them. I just found about 50 blocks in a back corner of my barn I thought they had eaten. If you have mice they are dumb and a snap trap with a little peanut butter will kill them all day long. In my opinion a shot gun on raccoons is the only way to go.
Russ from MN
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- Bemidji MN
The Tomcat I buy has nail holes in it so I nail it to the bottom purloin in my shed, then I can keep an eye on them.
Bruce from Can.
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- Woodville, Ontario, Canada
This thread will soon disappear, I agree sounds like rats. You need bait stations, where the rats have to eat the bait right there, and can?t haul it away.. everything likes chickens, coons, skunks, weasels , foxes . If you set up a trail camera, you can find out what your pesky vermin is.
Brendon-KS
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- Goessel, KS
That's what I do too - nail the blocks down so the critters have to chew them up on the spot and not carry them away.
Cats are the answer. Feed the cats lightly and they will clean the rats out. When I moved here I had a big rattle snake problem. I was told that I had a chipmunk problem tha was drawing the rattlesnakes. Sure enough the cute little rat cousins were everywhere. My dogs and I killed 50 something rattlers over a 10 year period. Now I have only killed 2 over the last 10 years and the only chipmunks I see is when the cats occasionally catch one!
DMartin9N-2N
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I was having field mice make nests in tool drawers in the old "tack" room in my barn. Made tools rusty, and I sure did not want to handle the tools! I put D-Con on the floor of the room, in corners. It may have helped, as the mice have to get inside the dispenser to eat the stuff. However, the drawers were still not safe. I read to put Irish Spring bar soap in drawers and mice will stay away. Well, my mice have been chewing on the soap bars and have made the bars about half the original size. I think these are the same type mice that build nests inside cooling air passages in my Lawn/Garden tractor.
I keep up with all this stuff as a hobby, but it makes retirement feel like an actual job! These animals will wear a person out.
Dennis M. in W. Tenn.
I was having field mice make nests in tool drawers in the old "tack" room in my barn. Made tools rusty, and I sure did not want to handle the tools! I put D-Con on the floor of the room, in corners. It may have helped, as the mice have to get inside the dispenser to eat the stuff. However, the drawers were still not safe. I read to put Irish Spring bar soap in drawers and mice will stay away. Well, my mice have been chewing on the soap bars and have made the bars about half the original size. I think these are the same type mice that build nests inside cooling air passages in my Lawn/Garden tractor.
I keep up with all this stuff as a hobby, but it makes retirement feel like an actual job! These animals will wear a person out.
Dennis M. in W. Tenn.
Years ago when we raised a half acre of sweet corn I set victor traps setting inside an aluminum pie pan. I was trapping musk rats in the ditches around my place at the time and one of my trapper friend put me onto the pie pan trick. It works the best when the moon is shining. I caught some when it wasn't also.
Kansasredneck
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Several places sell dog safe coon traps. What you want to do to bait them is a bit of sardines, or moist cat food, then a marshmallow. The coon will dig in with their fist and get caught. I fasten the trap to the middle of a 12 ft 4x4. They will drag it a ways. After that it is simple to get them a lead injection to clear their mind.
You can also put it on a pipe and teach them to swim after you catch them.
For mice, I use a five gallon bucket made into a log roller trap. Drill two holes opposite each other near the top. Put a rod through with a piece of 3/4 pvc pipe on it set up so it will spin freely. Fill the bucket 3/4 full of water, them smear peanut butter on the pvc pipe.
I placed one of those in a rental and caught 22 mice in 24 hours, and still had so many running around you could not tell any were missing. Took several weeks to get them all, but we are not seeing any now.
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You can also put it on a pipe and teach them to swim after you catch them.
For mice, I use a five gallon bucket made into a log roller trap. Drill two holes opposite each other near the top. Put a rod through with a piece of 3/4 pvc pipe on it set up so it will spin freely. Fill the bucket 3/4 full of water, them smear peanut butter on the pvc pipe.
I placed one of those in a rental and caught 22 mice in 24 hours, and still had so many running around you could not tell any were missing. Took several weeks to get them all, but we are not seeing any now.
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Texasmark1
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Same here on Tom Kat. Coons love it (peanuts) if they can get to it with their grubbly little "hands".
DoubleO7
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There is no rodent killing bait made today that kills within minutes.
It takes days or even a couple of weeks to work.
IF they eat it.
It takes days or even a couple of weeks to work.
IF they eat it.
flying belgian
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When trying to kill mice with poison you have to do it just like watering your dog. Every day throw out the old and put in fresh.
DoubleO7
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- Crystal River, FL
Name it then.
Clarence Slydell
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I'd like to see a video of you or anyone else stuffing a tomcat into a 1 1/2" pipe. Bound to be messy.
Kickinbull
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DIY mouse rat poison. 1/3 each flour,baking soda and sugar. Put in dish,can or pan in several places. May have to refill.
rustyfarmall
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"Havoc"
DoubleO7
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- Crystal River, FL
Nope
"Havoc" takes 4 to 5 days as listed in the details.
rustyfarmall
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Might take 4 to 5 days for the rat to die, but it needs to eat it only once.
DoubleO7
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- Crystal River, FL
Yes, but like I said:
"There is no rodent killing bait made today that kills within minutes.
It takes days or even a couple of weeks to work.
IF they eat it."
There are some neurotoxins that claim death in one or two days but those are not death in minutes either.
Still waiting for the name of the stuff Ron/PA might recommend for "death in minutes".
BarnyardEngineering
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- Rochester, NY
Anything potent enough for them to drop dead as they're eating it, they wouldn't eat because they could smell the poison.
IMHO you've just got a lot of critters. They're eating it, then heading off to find water because one of the symptoms of the poison is thirst. They die outside looking for water, so you are never going to see a pile of dead critters around a half-eaten block.
I use the pellets myself. Not as easily transported as the blocks and smaller critters are more likely to chomp on the little pellets than gnaw at a large block.
IMHO you've just got a lot of critters. They're eating it, then heading off to find water because one of the symptoms of the poison is thirst. They die outside looking for water, so you are never going to see a pile of dead critters around a half-eaten block.
I use the pellets myself. Not as easily transported as the blocks and smaller critters are more likely to chomp on the little pellets than gnaw at a large block.
rustyfarmall
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I set up several outdoor feeding stations last fall. Loaded them with Havoc. Never found any dead rats or mice, but never found any alive or dead in the house either.
DoubleO7
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- Crystal River, FL
99.9% of all the rodent poison bait on the market today uses anticoagulant as the killing method.
No water needed.
Anticoagulant as in Warfarin use in humans to keep your blood from coagulating to reduce your chances of having a stroke.
The use of it in rodentcide is that the dose is strong enough that when they take a crap, they rupture a hemorrhoid ever so slightly and then bleed to death. Or they bleed to death from the inside because the drug causes the tinyest blood vessels to leak.
If your lucky they do not die in a wall cavity or in the ceiling so they stink up the place for a week or so, lol.
No water needed.
Anticoagulant as in Warfarin use in humans to keep your blood from coagulating to reduce your chances of having a stroke.
The use of it in rodentcide is that the dose is strong enough that when they take a crap, they rupture a hemorrhoid ever so slightly and then bleed to death. Or they bleed to death from the inside because the drug causes the tinyest blood vessels to leak.
If your lucky they do not die in a wall cavity or in the ceiling so they stink up the place for a week or so, lol.
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