B414 1501 loader

My 414 with above loader does not lift very well..Any way I can spruce up this lifting capacity..

You could check to be sure the Hydraulic pump is putting out the pressure and flow it?s rated for . It?s funny how these forums are great but when certain people post a question nobody will answer ?

It could be that we do not have an answer. Remember the IH B14 was an import that had some flaws that made them some what unpopular. In many cases of poor hydraulic performance it is either the pump is weak, the filters are plugged or an internal leak is causing loss pressure. Other than the filters that can be changed or cleaned, the system needs to be checked by someone with testing equipment and knowledge.

(quoted from post at 23:06:53 06/08/18) You could check to be sure the Hydraulic pump is putting out the pressure and flow it?s rated for . It?s funny how these forums are great but when certain people post a question nobody will answer ?

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Ask a question about trouble shooting an electrical problem. Or fuel system problem. Lots of people have some knowledge of these issues. You start getting into hydraulics some of us have knowledge of specific systems but there are few who really know hydraulics.

Now this question doesn't really tell you much so you are shooting in the dark trying to answer it. The OP doesn't tell us what it will lift. Or how fast. Just states "doesn't life very well". Is that doesn't life very well at or below what it's rated for? Or is the OP trying to lift 2X it's capacity? For example is the OP trying to lift #2000 round bales with it? Is the OP expecting a tractor that old to perform as well as a modern tractor that's the same physical size?


Specs for the loader are:

Loader type: International Harvester 1501
Weight: 558 lbs [253 kg]
Clearance, dumped bucket: 84 inches [213 cm]
Breakout force (at pin): 2400 lbs [1088 kg]
Lift to full height (at pin): 1700 lbs [771 kg]
Bucket width: 40 inches [101 cm]

In other words it's not a very robust loader at best. Plus the B414 really isn't that robust of a tractor.

So without additional information from the OP it's kinda a difficult question to answer.

Rick

There should be a control knob in front of the seat to adjust flow. There is a screen right near it where a tube connects to the resevoir

Where do you mean "at pin"Also should it lift 1700 lbs to full height...For max lift I presume the flow button should be out all the way..Alsoo engine speed has something to do also right..I feel it wont lift much more than maybe 800 lbs..Seems to have more lift power by turning the bucket..I think you know more about this than me so excuse the bothering

(quoted from post at 07:28:19 06/09/18) It could be that we do not have an answer. Remember the IH B14 was an import that had some flaws that made them some what unpopular.

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What are these flaws? They were a very common and popular tractor here.

These tractors were years ahead of any US IH tractor of the same era.

(quoted from post at 11:58:22 06/10/18) Where do you mean "at pin"Also should it lift 1700 lbs to full height...For max lift I presume the flow button should be out all the way..Alsoo engine speed has something to do also right..I feel it wont lift much more than maybe 800 lbs..Seems to have more lift power by turning the bucket..I think you know more about this than me so excuse the bothering

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Nothing to excuse, just more info was needed. I was explaining to the other guy why this issue wasn't getting a lot of responses. Often when someone does respond to a post like this and they ask for more information from a new user the new user never responds. So a lot of folks just don't bother trying.

So where it says breakout? Yes that's with rolling the bucket. Next are you sure of the weight? Or is the 800 a guess? I have the IH 2001 loader on a much larger tractor. To me it seems pretty flimsy at 1/2 the rated weight. When I was using it to feed round bales it was OK with 900 pounders but didn't like the 1500 pound ones a newer baler made.

Now on your tractor loader combo several things can cause some of the problems you would like to address. When was the last time the hydraulic oil and filter were changed? And yea it could be as simple as that. Are the cylinders/control valves leaking past the seals internally? And finally what condition is the pump in. The first one is easy and can be addressed by most owners. For the second one, if you leave the bucket up say 3-4 feet off the ground overnight does it hold position? If not how fast/far does it go down? May need to address seals and or rebuild the cylinders or control valves. On the last you need the gauges to test the pressure the pump is putting out. Most people do not have that equipment.

Rick

Rick