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Ricky B

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Does anyone know where I can get a release bearing hub for my Ford 4410 woods tractor or there another model ford tractor that will work? Is there another Ford tractor like the 4400 or some other that parts will work on the3 4410?
Thanks
PS this is my first post. I hope I did it right.
 
Looks like there were several different realease bearing hubs used, depending on type of clutch, type of transmission, and production date.

You should be able to find a FIAT/dba CNH part number for yours at the Messicks site the other poster suggested or at the official CNH parts site linked below.
4410 parts
 
Bob, Thank you for your reply. I have looked the part up on the New Holland wed site and none of the Ford/NH dealers I called could help. They said the part was no longer available. one guy said the tractor was a 1971. the S/N is C292519*.
Thanks again. I will look at the Messicks site.
 
(quoted from post at 17:45:27 05/21/18) Bob, Thank you for your reply. I have looked the part up on the New Holland wed site and none of the Ford/NH dealers I called could help. They said the part was no longer available. one guy said the tractor was a 1971. the S/N is C292519*.
Thanks again. I will look at the Messicks site.
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What part number did you come up with for the obsolete part?

You can go to the Parts Depot site, log in as a guest, and check their inventory of obsolete parts. If they happen to have it, they won't sell direct to you, but can tell you who in your area is a reseller for them.

Also, my B-I-L works parts at a NH dealership, with the # I can ask him to check their parts locator and other sources they have for obsolete parts.

http://test.depotparts.com/Account/Login
 
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(quoted from post at 17:45:27 05/21/18) Bob, Thank you for your reply. I have looked the part up on the New Holland wed site and none of the Ford/NH dealers I called could help. They said the part was no longer available. one guy said the tractor was a 1971. the S/N is C292519*.
Thanks again. I will look at the Messicks site.
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What part number did you come up with for the obsolete part?

You can go to the Parts Depot site, log in as a guest, and check their inventory of obsolete parts. If they happen to have it, they won't sell direct to you, but can tell you who in your area is a reseller for them.

Also, my B-I-L works parts at a NH dealership, with the # I can ask him to check their parts locator and other sources they have for obsolete parts.

http://test.depotparts.com/Account/Login
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Bob, the number I got from the N/H site is C7NN7548AA. That number is for both the hub and the bearing. The hub that I think I need is not listed separately.The 4410 tractor that I have has a PTO that I have to engage with a lever. I'll try the parts depot site.
Thanks
 

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Holland-3-4-Cyl-Tractor-Single-Clutch-Hub-81821087/192150322792?hash=item2cbd0d3e68:g:bloAAOSwc-tY5kfB

Here is one on ebay right now.
 
(quoted from post at 06:51:00 05/23/18)
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Holland-3-4-Cyl-Tractor-Single-Clutch-Hub-81821087/192150322792?hash=item2cbd0d3e68:g:bloAAOSwc-tY5kfB

Here is one on ebay right now.
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Thank you sotxbill. That is a lot more costly than I thought it would be after looking at other clutch hubs. Of course those were not the one I need. I will look a little bit more but I will get that one if I can't find one for less.
Thanks again I really appreciate it!
 

Does you tractor have the greaseable release bearing with the hose that connects to the clutch housing. If so they hardly ever go bad or need replaced.
If it does and the bearing is bad it would be best to change it over to a standard bearing and hub.
 
Destroked thank you for responding. Yes my tractor has the place for the grease fitting on the clutch housing and on the bearing hub.It did not have the tube from the housing to the bearing hub. The bearing seized itself to the hub. I had to beat the bearing to get it off the hub and the hub has some bearing material still on it. I had to file the bearing material down to get the new release bearing on the hub. The problem is the new bearing is not exactly centered on the hub now. I guess I did not file it perfectly round and I am afraid if I put it back together like it is it will wobble the shaft (N/H part # C5NN7050D) and cause a bad transmission oil leak which is why I took this tractor apart in the first place.
PS it took almost as long to type this as it did to get the tractor in half. THINKS FOR ANY HELP
 

It won't wobble the shafts because they are centered in the pilot bearing and pressure plate splines, if it's off center very bad it can cause a shortened release bearing life and irregular wear on the pressure plate fingers.
Transmission seal leakage is normally a age thing or contaminated oil, in the last couple of years the input shaft seals have leaked and oil soaked the clutches on my 4500 and 5000.

I've never had the greasable release bearing off before, the price was so crazy high that if it had grease and rolled good I'd put it back in, always figured if one when bad I'd change it to a standard hub and bearing.
 
(quoted from post at 14:23:46 05/24/18)
It won't wobble the shafts because they are centered in the pilot bearing and pressure plate splines, if it's off center very bad it can cause a shortened release bearing life and irregular wear on the pressure plate fingers.
Transmission seal leakage is normally a age thing or contaminated oil, in the last couple of years the input shaft seals have leaked and oil soaked the clutches on my 4500 and 5000.

I've never had the greasable release bearing off before, the price was so crazy high that if it had grease and rolled good I'd put it back in, always figured if one when bad I'd change it to a standard hub and bearing.
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I thought about that but wasn't sure if the wobble would wear out the pilot and release bearing and eat up the seals. The release bearing was really easy to spend so I thought I needed to replace it. Now I'm not so sure. The transmission input shaft(not the pto shaft) has a good bit of up and down play but the pilot bearing seems fine. The transmission is leaking about a gallon of fluid an hour. Do you know if there is a standard hub and bearing that will fit my 4410? I order a inexpensive hub and bearing that I was hoping would work but it was not large enough in diameter to fit on to the PTO shaft hub/retainer. Any suggestions would be welcome.
 
(reply to post at 16:31:47 05/24/18)
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The transmission is an eight speed. The N/H web site 4410 electronic parts catalog view page (07C04). The tractor has what I think is an independent PTO. I don't know what other kind of PTO there is. I know it has a PTO that I have to shift a lever to engage.
 
Ok thanks. I will check it out. The 4410 one that SOTXBILL mentioned is in England and cost GBP 239.00 or AU $422.66 whatever those are. That seems high but at lease he found one which is better than I could do.
I guess it's a standard 8x2. These doggone things so many little differences that make a big deal when ordering. I know I've ordered a few wrong parts and it would cost almost as much to send them back as the refund I would get.
Thanks again
 

There's only a few different bearing hubs, greaseable, non greaseable, independent pto and trans pto.

So to eliminate the pto question can you flip the lever and have the pto engage or do you first have the push the clutch in to prevent it from grinding when you flip the lever.
 

My clutch release bearing hub is A=2&1/8" ID. B=2&1/2" OD for the release bearing which is 2&1/2" ID and
C=4&5/8" long
The one Yesterdays Tractor shows for the 4000 is A=1.75
B=2.05 and C=2.80
 


Ok, when you flipped the lever did the pto start turning right away or did you have to start releasing the clutch before the pto started turning?
The hubs listed on YT site is for the older 800, 801, and 4 cylinder 4000 series tractors, they don't list one for the 3 cylinder models like you have, they are completely different.
NH site doesn't list the specs for the hub used on standard 8x2 trans with ind pto.

Release bearing # N1585 on this site is the correct bearing for non greaseable apps.
2.499 ID, 4.33 OD, .870 thick.
 
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Ok, when you flipped the lever did the pto start turning right away or did you have to start releasing the clutch before the pto started turning?
The hubs listed on YT site is for the older 800, 801, and 4 cylinder 4000 series tractors, they don't list one for the 3 cylinder models like you have, they are completely different.
NH site doesn't list the specs for the hub used on standard 8x2 trans with ind pto.

Release bearing # N1585 on this site is the correct bearing for non greaseable apps.
2.499 ID, 4.33 OD, .870 thick.
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The PTO on this the 4410 doesn't work just right. It turns slow even when it is not engaged.If I remember right when I push the clutch and engage the PTO lever it still turns slowly until I release the the clutch. Then it turns faster according to how fast I have the engine going and cuts well. The reason I can't remember is because I have an old M/F 35 diesel with a cracked ring or piston that runs terrible and blows oil out the dip stick tube. I Also have an old Ford gas 2000 I think. I have to it shut off to engage the PTO. The gas tractor was given to me because the engine was seized up. I got it running but it doesn't have much power. The 4410 I paid $10.00 for from a friend. Kind of like a joke. I'm sure that I got a good deal. I'm just kidding. I really like the old 4410. I call it the Beast. It is really ragged out but it's fun to use.
 
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