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Bret4207

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So, I've done a lot of business with people here on this site over the years. Every single time I've been treated like a king and treated those I dealt with in the same way. Recently a member here needed a hard to come by hydraulic fitting. I happened to have a good used example hanging on the wall and offered it to him at less than half the price for a new one. I won't go through all the emails back and forth and his requests that I do things that indicated he clearly didn't trust me. I ended up boxing up the item and sending it to him without demanding payment in advance, supplied him with a tracking #, etc. All I asked was that he notify me when it got there and make payment by either USPS or Western Union Money Order. Today I got a response that it had arrived and fit fine and that he was sending a personal check because "getting a money order is a hassle". What the heck? I do the leg work, I make 2 trips to the PO to find the cheapest way to ship it and make sure it's insured and answer question after question from him and carry through on my end, but it's too much trouble for him to do the one thing I asked? His time is apparently worth a lot more than mine!

I'm not going to name names or discourage anyone from trusting others here, but I certainly learned that honor and character aren't shared by every one that comes here.
 
For some people life is all about [i:aa7e6c0eef]them[/i:aa7e6c0eef].

On the other hand maybe he is 50 miles from the nearest post office or western union?
Plus he probably did not like having to pay for the money order.

Just for chuckles, google map his address and that of the nearest post office or WU and see just how far away the "hassle" might be.
 
I wouldn't worry about it. I've sent checks,sent items,had checks and items cross in the mail,sold a tractor sight unseen with half down,shipped it and got the balance without a problem. Great bunch of guys. Never been burned yet.
 
I always pay cash or check as I don't drive (disabled) & don't know how I would get a money order. I won't put cash in the mailbox for one.
 
When he indicated he didn't trust me that'd been the end of the deal because I've learned people expect others to be like they are,you helped him out he should have paid like you
wanted him to for sure.
 
Over the years that I have been on Y-T I have never been taken by any body here as for a personal check. Took one not all that long ago for a part I had and it was good
 
In this day and age you can't trust anyone, but there's a point where the amount at risk isn't worth the paranoia, and it's time to get over it and get on with the deal.

How much money was at stake here? When it's tens of dollars involved, there should be no problem.
 
If the check clears chalk it up to experience but do no further business with the person.

If the check bounces, name(s) are in order.

Dean
 

Yup, nearest PO appears to be about 3 miles. WU I don't know, but every drug store and grocery store in my area carries it.

The value isn't a lot, but that's not the point. The point is if someone asks something of you and you do as they wish, why do they not treat you in the same way? Do unto others, etc. I find it really irritating. I don't know if the check will be any good or not, bit again, not the point. If I act honorably, where is the honor in return?

Maybe I'm just too old for this stuff.
 
Just fill out a deposit slip and mail the check to the bank.
Saves a trip to town.
Or just wait til you go to town anyway.
 
I think the same about the good folks here
at YT and will generally bend over backwards
for someone if I'm familiar with their
handle. I did have one guy a year ago who
was relatively new user here and wanted some
parts and asked a lot of questions, emailed,
talked on the phone, fretted and wanted
pics, wanted tracking #s etc, etc. I finally
just sent him the parts and said to send me
a personal check when he got the stuff. He
did and wrote a nice note he sent with the
check and apologised for his behavior. Said
he was surprised that someone would do that
in this day and age.
Not quite the same as your buyer but of
suspicious people in general:
There's a good quote in Proverbs 28-1 that I
always think about when I run into guys like
that.
"The wicked flee when no one pursueth."
 
Well I understood your point and I agree. I usually send cash for small amounts but I always send what the seller wants.
 
I agree with you,plus there are a surprising number of people that do not have bank accounts and getting a check cashed is a hassle and can cost right much at these check cashing
places.A US Postal Money Order can be cashed at the Post Office.
 
Several years ago I advertised a bunch of farm magazines for free, they had to be picked up here. A guy came and
said he would like them, and that he drove past my house on his way to work. The magazines were in library storage
boxes which did not go with the magazines, but he said they would slide all over in his truck without them. So I
let him take all the boxes too, he said he would drop the boxes off soon on his way past. I did not get his name
and am still waiting for the boxes, I think it has been 8 years now. There were about 10 boxes which are not free
or even cheap, but this guy sure was.
 
Traditional Farmer- My local USPS office, back home, would not cash USPS Money Orders. I did lots of business using USPS money orders, both sending and receiving.
 
If you trusted him to pay you after he received the item I guess you can trust him for the check to be good. I notice more and more businesses have signs that they don't accept checks. When we got one my wife takes a picture of it and emails it to the bank, and poof, it's in our account. We very seldom go in a bank, I wouldn't know what to do with a money order, never had one.
 
They are supposed to I cash them lots of times at several Post Offices sometimes the small PO can't because they don't have a lot of cash at times other than that no problem.
 
Yep, that is one of the benefits of MOs, cash at any PO. I'll bet an inquiry to the Postmaster General's office would get them to change their ways.
 
My wife used to collect on bad checks when she worked at the collection agency.Small amount checks are a hassle because the person that took the check has to go to court so by the time
the business pays its employee to show up in court its not worth it.
 
(quoted from post at 16:14:06 05/15/18) Yep, that is one of the benefits of MOs, cash at any PO. I'll bet an inquiry to the Postmaster General's office would get them to change their ways.
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That is likely true, but some PO's are so small you might have to present the MO one day, (get a receipt for it).
Then wait for a call from the PO to come get your cash.
Postal money orders are limited to $1000 max, so maybe the PO can make you come back several days if you have $5000 in MO's?
 
(quoted from post at 14:29:31 05/15/18)
Yup, nearest PO appears to be about 3 miles. WU I don't know, but every drug store and grocery store in my area carries it.

The value isn't a lot, but that's not the point. The point is if someone asks something of you and you do as they wish, why do they not treat you in the same way? Do unto others, etc. I find it really irritating. I don't know if the check will be any good or not, bit again, not the point. If I act honorably, where is the honor in return?

Maybe I'm just too old for this stuff.
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If you can live without the money, just do not cash it.
It will likely drive him crazy having an outstanding check out there for who knows how long.
 
(quoted from post at 17:57:44 05/15/18)
(quoted from post at 14:29:31 05/15/18)
Yup, nearest PO appears to be about 3 miles. WU I don't know, but every drug store and grocery store in my area carries it.

The value isn't a lot, but that's not the point. The point is if someone asks something of you and you do as they wish, why do they not treat you in the same way? Do unto others, etc. I find it really irritating. I don't know if the check will be any good or not, bit again, not the point. If I act honorably, where is the honor in return?

Maybe I'm just too old for this stuff.
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If you can live without the money, just do not cash it.
It will likely drive him crazy having an outstanding check out there for who knows how long.
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I like it! At least some people get the point I was venting about. It's not the money, it's not the risk. It's that I did everything he wanted that I could but he couldn't do the one single thing for thing for me that I asked. Apparently a check is enroute. It's probably good, but it may be like the check I got a few years back that was honored at my bank and then bounced when it got back to a small bank on the west coast. That didn't happen here on this site, but that's why I wanted the MO.
 
I would guess it's the risk you take, to some degree. You certainly are no stranger in dealing with people, given your career, but every person and situation is different.

The perception I get is that among the communities of those who participate on this site and some others like it, is that most if not all are upstanding citizens. That could mislead a person though and some would take advantage of that perception.

The details of your deal, the person deciding a money order is a hassle, is a petty thing on their part, I still use money orders often as a way around another problem which is another story. They are no hassle to me at all.

Craigslist has been a wonderful resource and I've had a good experience buying and doing some selling over the years. I am cautious, considering the logistics of making a deal, paying in cash etc.

Earlier this year, was browsing CL in other areas and found a nice gem to go on my 640 ford tractor which was sold by our dealership at least twice, an original ford top link!
It is in good condition, some rust on threads, patina on ends etc. Looks like it was not used much. It was seized, but easily freed up. I pursued the add, stating I'd pay the extra packing and shipping costs. Seller wanted me to use paypal, so I did. A couple simple e-mail exchanges and it arrived and it was like $30 total. Seller and buyer both are strangers to each other, but it worked out. Chance you take sometimes.
 
I tell guys cash on pickup and they still show up with a check. Some people think a check is cash.
 
My PO can only cash money orders under $25. They don't have
enough cash on hand for over $25.00 I take my money orders to
the bank.
 
I should agree with you, but let me give you an example of what happened to me a couple of months ago.
A brick and mortar company listed a part that I wanted on the internet. I called them up, they said they had no problem with a postal money order, so I got one and sent it to them.
About a week later, I got a letter in the mail from that company that said the part I wanted was discontinued and they sent my postal money order back to me with no further explanation.
(Yea, I know I should have used the credit card, but the wife was using it to visit her mom a few states away and I didn't memorize the numbers on it, so.....)
I took it back to the post office to get my money back and I had one HECK of a time. Perhaps the teller was new, perhaps nobody tries to cash a postal money order, I don't know.
It easily took a half hour of her time and she called two supervisors to get directions on how to do it. After I finally got my cash and got home, she called me to request my driver's license number. This was my home town post office and I actually went to high school with this girl.
I know it shouldn't have been that hard and I should have used a credit card, but it's live and learn, I guess.
 
I guess it must be the area I've cashed MO at 4 different Post Offices,just hand them the MO and my drivers license and they give me the cash takes about 30 seconds if I don't have to stand in line.Never tried to return one I bought though more and more private sellers I find are requesting MO and I don't blame them.
 
Sounds like a rant my wife would give. I ask her if she couldn't find a smaller detail to get riled about. (Not following details is the rule not the exception.) We sell through a web site with clear instructions and will exchange several email messages before some are able to place their order. I take personal checks over money orders any day.

I ship with an email copy of the check they are to send. Never lost a dime in hundreds of check copies. Two in in over 15 years took a few months to receive and one was a MD Doctors. Most pay with paypal.
 
(quoted from post at 14:10:05 05/15/18)
(quoted from post at 17:57:44 05/15/18)
(quoted from post at 14:29:31 05/15/18)
Yup, nearest PO appears to be about 3 miles. WU I don't know, but every drug store and grocery store in my area carries it.

The value isn't a lot, but that's not the point. The point is if someone asks something of you and you do as they wish, why do they not treat you in the same way? Do unto others, etc. I find it really irritating. I don't know if the check will be any good or not, bit again, not the point. If I act honorably, where is the honor in return?

Maybe I'm just too old for this stuff.
Click to expand...

If you can live without the money, just do not cash it.
It will likely drive him crazy having an outstanding check out there for who knows how long.
Click to expand...


I like it! At least some people get the point I was venting about. It's not the money, it's not the risk. It's that I did everything he wanted that I could but he couldn't do the one single thing for thing for me that I asked. Apparently a check is enroute. It's probably good, but it may be like the check I got a few years back that was honored at my bank and then bounced when it got back to a small bank on the west coast. That didn't happen here on this site, but that's why I wanted the MO.
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OH I get your point. You are much nicer person than I. I'd have made sure everyone knew who this guy was in my first post.

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 08:22:43 05/16/18) Sounds like a rant my wife would give. I ask her if she couldn't find a smaller detail to get riled about. (Not following details is the rule not the exception.) We sell through a web site with clear instructions and will exchange several email messages before some are able to place their order. I take personal checks over money orders any day.

I ship with an email copy of the check they are to send. Never lost a dime in hundreds of check copies. Two in in over 15 years took a few months to receive and one was a MD Doctors. Most pay with paypal.
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Probably if you're used to selling it is a small thing. But to someone who isn't, and someone who actually reads the instructions in fine print and tries to make things easy for the seller...it just drives me nuts.
 
(quoted from post at 08:45:43 05/16/18)
(quoted from post at 14:10:05 05/15/18)
(quoted from post at 17:57:44 05/15/18)
(quoted from post at 14:29:31 05/15/18)
Yup, nearest PO appears to be about 3 miles. WU I don't know, but every drug store and grocery store in my area carries it.

The value isn't a lot, but that's not the point. The point is if someone asks something of you and you do as they wish, why do they not treat you in the same way? Do unto others, etc. I find it really irritating. I don't know if the check will be any good or not, bit again, not the point. If I act honorably, where is the honor in return?

Maybe I'm just too old for this stuff.
Click to expand...

If you can live without the money, just do not cash it.
It will likely drive him crazy having an outstanding check out there for who knows how long.
Click to expand...


I like it! At least some people get the point I was venting about. It's not the money, it's not the risk. It's that I did everything he wanted that I could but he couldn't do the one single thing for thing for me that I asked. Apparently a check is enroute. It's probably good, but it may be like the check I got a few years back that was honored at my bank and then bounced when it got back to a small bank on the west coast. That didn't happen here on this site, but that's why I wanted the MO.
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OH I get your point. You are much nicer person than I. I'd have made sure everyone knew who this guy was in my first post.

Rick
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The guy made 14 posts prior to this in 11 years. Not like he's a regular.
 
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