oil filter quality?

Mike(NEOhio) · May 5, 2018

I just got a new Husqvarna lawn tractor with the Kohler 7000 series engine. Online searching show a HQRP brand oil filter. Never seen it before, are they any good? Wally-world has them, hence the question.

WGM · May 5, 2018

Why don't you use a Kohler filter? I use OEM parts including filters in all of my equipment. That's everything from a 250hp tractor down to the lawn mower. Maybe a few dollars more but well worth the piece of mind. Just my 2 cents.

D beatty · May 5, 2018

I have used NAPA Gold 1348 on all my Briggs and Kohler engines for over 20 years and are as good or if not better than OEM at about 1/2 the price.

ptfarmer · May 5, 2018

(quoted from post at 06:28:41 05/05/18) I have used NAPA Gold 1348 on all my Briggs and Kohler engines for over 20 years and are as good or if not better than OEM at about 1/2 the price.

NAPA filters are made by WIX filters.

Billy Shafer · May 5, 2018

I think people would be shocked to find out. Who really makes filters. Just like who makes batteries.

Bob · May 5, 2018

(quoted from post at 08:51:38 05/05/18)

(quoted from post at 06:28:41 05/05/18) I have used NAPA Gold 1348 on all my Briggs and Kohler engines for over 20 years and are as good or if not better than OEM at about 1/2 the price.

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NAPA filters are made by WIX filters.

And WIX is now foreign-owned, by Mann+Hummel!

rustyfarmall · May 5, 2018

(quoted from post at 06:28:41 05/05/18) I have used NAPA Gold 1348 on all my Briggs and Kohler engines for over 20 years and are as good or if not better than OEM at about 1/2 the price.

I think that is the same filter that I use on my zero turn with the Kohler. It is the same filter as used on many smaller Chrysler and other brand cars.

The Kohler branded filter is ridiculously priced and probably is made by the same company.

DoubleO7 · May 5, 2018

I would shy away from any thing branded HQRP.
If they have to use "High Quality Replacement Part" as the brand name, they are trying too hard to sell you junk.

D beatty · May 5, 2018

Yes they are but the NAPA Gold manufactured to NAPAs specs which is higher specs than Wixs own filter.

dcarp · May 5, 2018

Won't comment on who is better but here is a list of the manufacturer.

Updated List;
Fram

Fram Extra Guard (std)
Fram Tough Guard (different media?)
Fram X2 (Silicone ADBV, Fuzzy media)
Fram Extended Guard(same as the X2)
Mileguard (Jiffy)
Honda (although some are alleged to be made by Filtech)
Chrysler line up except for the Cummins
Penzoil
Deffense
Canadian Tire

Champion Labs

Bosch
Car and Driver
Deutsch
Mobil 1
STP
SuperTech
K&N
Valvoline filters
Mighty
Service Champ
Lee
AutoZone Value Craft
Some AC Delco
VW (some)
Warner
Luberfiner
Trust

Wix

Carquest blue
Carquest red
Napa Gold
Napa Silver (lower quality with nitrile ADBV)
Kralinator (in Canada)
ALLIANCE (Freightliner aftermarket)

Purolator (Arvin Meritor)

Purolator premium plus (nitrile adbv)
Purolator Pure One (silicone adbv, different media)
Havoline
Maxlife Valvoline (some)
Group7
Promotive
Powerflow
Quaker State (less media)
Advanced Auto Total Grip. (less media)
Pep Boys Pro Line
MotorCraft
Superflo

Denso

Toyota

Mann+Hummel

Mann
Volvo

Clarcor

Baldwin
Hastings
Amsoil
Casite

[

DoubleO7 · May 5, 2018

Your updated list is outdated because WIX is owned thus made by Mann+Hummel.

D beatty · May 5, 2018

These companies that build filters build them to customers specs. not theirs.

IanC · May 5, 2018

After reading the comments below, I also have a comment. Just because a certain factory makes a filter does indicate they are all the same. Think of it this way, you go into a restaurant and look at the menu. You can order chicken fingers, hamburger, steak, or lobster. Same building (factory), same chef (workers), different meals (specifications). If you think all filters made by each manufacturer are the same, buy a bunch of same application filters and cut them open, you will get a big surprise.

showcrop · May 5, 2018

(quoted from post at 06:18:30 05/05/18) Why don't you use a Kohler filter? I use OEM parts including filters in all of my equipment. That's everything from a 250hp tractor down to the lawn mower. Maybe a few dollars more but well worth the piece of mind. Just my 2 cents.

Since the OP's new tractor came with the HQRP doesn't that make it OEM?

DoubleO7 · May 5, 2018

(quoted from post at 15:14:15 05/05/18) After reading the comments below, I also have a comment. Just because a certain factory makes a filter does indicate they are all the same. Think of it this way, you go into a restaurant and look at the menu. You can order chicken fingers, hamburger, steak, or lobster. Same building (factory), same chef (workers), different meals (specifications). If you think all filters made by each manufacturer are the same, buy a bunch of same application filters and cut them open, you will get a big surprise.

And conversely, several different brands made by the same company may also be no difference what so ever.
Other than the label.

Hobo,NC · May 5, 2018

I cross the OEM number to a Napa/wix are Purolator then get a top of the line filter in either brand and move on with life.

rustred · May 5, 2018

filters are not built the same. i was told the OEM filter has smaller micron filtering than jobber filters. even filtering material can be different.

bumblebee · May 5, 2018

We purchased a new 1996 Toyota Camry. An individual that worked in the same building as my wife asked if she would consider selling it. My wife said perhaps she would because my husband had a bunch of car price figures written down in front of the desk top at home. I told the guy that the car had 125,000 on it and asked if he was still interested. He told me that the mileage was not an issue, he gave us the asking price and proceeded to put a total of 360,000 miles on it.

When we owned the car I changed the oil every 5000 miles and the filter every other time. I don't know what the next owner did for oil changes, I just know that the engine was never apart for any repairs. I used Fram filters. I also used what ever oil that was on sale.

W_B · May 5, 2018

A mechanic on YouTube, Steve Cox, a friend of Lance on these Boards, cut a Wix, NAPA, and a Fram apart and compared them. The Fram was a pathetic excuse for a filter, compared to the other two.

buickanddeere · May 5, 2018

(quoted from post at 10:13:06 05/05/18) I think people would be shocked to find out. Who really makes filters. Just like who makes batteries.

Just because company A makes filters for company B and company C . Why do you think the filters manufactured for company B are the same as the filters manufactured for company C.

oldtanker · May 5, 2018

It boils down to this. You can know what you are buying and buy the best or you can be a cheap skate and then claim you got good results. But in the end, weather or not you like it the decision to be cheap and save a few bucks here and there can wind up costing thousands of dollars. Guys we are all on the internet here. That means we can all research stuff. Start with the US Consumer Protection Agency (CPA). Many times companies that offer snake oil and filter products settle out of court to keep bad press at bay. You can find a lot of these companies listed with the US CPA. Some of you guys will be surprised at who's on there and just how many times they avoided a courtroom. If you still are not convinced the facts are being overshadowed by being cheap.

Rick

buickanddeere · May 6, 2018

(quoted from post at 21:08:12 05/05/18)

(quoted from post at 15:14:15 05/05/18) After reading the comments below, I also have a comment. Just because a certain factory makes a filter does indicate they are all the same. Think of it this way, you go into a restaurant and look at the menu. You can order chicken fingers, hamburger, steak, or lobster. Same building (factory), same chef (workers), different meals (specifications). If you think all filters made by each manufacturer are the same, buy a bunch of same application filters and cut them open, you will get a big surprise.

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And conversely, several different brands made by the same company may also be no difference what so ever.
Other than the label.

How much are you willing to gamble on that assumption . Manufactures build everything to lowest cost which equals minimum spec .
If you can not afford a factory or brand name lube oil meeting factory specs and factory spec filter . You can’t afford the machine you are operating.

ss55 · May 6, 2018

For brand new equipment, talk to your dealer to get their recommendations on which third party filters and oil to use. If the dealer is expected to honor your warranty, it seems reasonable to me that a dealer approved filter and oil should be used until the warranty is expired.

You could also check with Wally-World about their warranty. I suspect they will cheerfully give you a new filter and a pleasant smile if their filter is defective and ruins your new engine.

GVSII · May 7, 2018

(quoted from post at 06:51:38 05/05/18)

(quoted from post at 06:28:41 05/05/18) I have used NAPA Gold 1348 on all my Briggs and Kohler engines for over 20 years and are as good or if not better than OEM at about 1/2 the price.

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NAPA filters are made by WIX filters.

NAPA "GOLD" are made by WIX.Don't know about their "SILVER"

DoubleO7 · May 7, 2018

(quoted from post at 14:50:21 05/06/18)

(quoted from post at 21:08:12 05/05/18)

(quoted from post at 15:14:15 05/05/18) After reading the comments below, I also have a comment. Just because a certain factory makes a filter does indicate they are all the same. Think of it this way, you go into a restaurant and look at the menu. You can order chicken fingers, hamburger, steak, or lobster. Same building (factory), same chef (workers), different meals (specifications). If you think all filters made by each manufacturer are the same, buy a bunch of same application filters and cut them open, you will get a big surprise.

Click to expand...

And conversely, several different brands made by the same company may also be no difference what so ever.
Other than the label.

Click to expand...

How much are you willing to gamble on that assumption . Manufactures build everything to lowest cost which equals minimum spec .
If you can not afford a factory or brand name lube oil meeting factory specs and factory spec filter . You can’t afford the machine you are operating.

Your gambling that all filters made by the same company are different.
I only said that what I said, and you will see I did not make any endorsements. One thing I do know, the brands that advertise the most are not generally the best.
Or put another way.............Not every filter made by the same company with a different label is going to different then all the other "brand" filters made by the same company.
A company making filters is going to have a "standard" filter they offer to buyers that want a private label but do not want to pay extra for anything other than the labeling.

chuck2015 · May 7, 2018

(quoted from post at 05:57:49 05/05/18) I just got a new Husqvarna lawn tractor with the Kohler 7000 series engine. Online searching show a HQRP brand oil filter. Never seen it before, are they any good? Wally-world has them, hence the question.

I was under the assumption for a long time that Fram filters were the best and then discovered they were not good filters at all. Hard to know what is the best anymore...so much advertising hype and myths out there.

D beatty · May 7, 2018

Napa Silver is Wix made just not as good as specs as Gold and Napa make one better than Gold ( Wix Platinum).

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