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SodBuster87

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Any one here have a newer Troy Bilt? I know they are a MTD brand but how are the more expensive models? Specificly the ProLine FRT. I know they have the Honda GX engine on them. Looking at a used one or if that falls through I might pony up and buy one new.
 
I have no idea what the Honda engine model you mention refers to, but a guy I know who works at a Honda dealership (bikes,
quads, power plants, mowers, etc) told me that there are Honda engines and then there are Honda engines. Which is which or
how you can tell I have no idea except if I bought a mower at his shop, I suspect it would be the real meal deal. Apparently,
Honda (like any company nowadays) lets their name be pasted on anything. Some Honda engines have parts available, and perhaps
others might now. Just sayin' .......
 
As far back as I remember Honda making small engines, they were never real strong on supplying parts.

Tune up stuff, yes, but as far as going into the engine, not so much.

Things like having to buy matching components, like the crank assembly with the rod fitted to the crank.

Prices were the deal killer, even if the parts could be ordered it was not practical.

That said, they did have a reputation for starting easy and lasting a long time.
 
I own a Troy built proline with the Honda engine. I am guessing
frt is forward rotating tines. That is what I have. Bought mine
in I think 2006. With the the forward rotating tines it
sometimes will try to pull the tiller forward out of your hands
if the ground is real hard and it's set too deep. This year I
need to replace axle seals. I tilled some pretty tall weeds and
I think when the weeds wrapped around the axle it took me he
seals out. My fault. Other than those two issues I have not
had any problems. I would recommend one. By the way I think I
paid around 1200 for mine new around 12 years ago !
 
thanks.
I usauly break the ground up first but it leaves it very rough. Also I'm not sold on reverse rotating tines seems like they over grind the soil and wrap trash around them instead of burying it
 
There's 2 general series of Honda air-cooled engines: The GC overhead valve "commercial", and the GX overhead cam "homeowner" series.

My limited experience is properly cared for, the GC series is bulletproof. But I've never had a problem with a GX engines on cheap, box store-branded push mowers, pressure washers, etc either - the engines are more robust than the old flathead aluminum B&S and Tecumseh engines they pretty much replaced.

Incidentally I own a Troy-Bilt tiller of unknown heritage but is at least 50 years old. The original B&S cast iron engine still runs great, thought it now smokes a bit. But the tiller itself works like new.
 
Ozlander, I suspect your reply was meant for me. Actually I wasn't shopping for anything but if it was a sales pitch, show me
what he had to say was false information. I suspect any independent small engine repair shop will tell you the same thing.
When I do go shopping though, it will be for something with a real Honda engine. You can go over to Harbor Freight (or
Princess Auto in Canada) and buy yours there.
 
(quoted from post at 19:01:10 04/27/18) Ozlander, I suspect your reply was meant for me. .
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Nope, just throwing it into the wind.

I hear that something about JD. Ours is good, their's is junk.

Gotta justify the higher prices.
 
The older Troy-Bilt's are an exceptional deal even with the Techumsa engine. I have restored 3 of them, one a 1971 Horse model have owned for over 30 yrs.
 
(quoted from post at 15:31:34 04/27/18) thanks.
I usauly break the ground up first but it leaves it very rough. Also I'm not sold on reverse rotating tines seems like they over grind the soil and wrap trash around them instead of burying it
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If there is trash in the soil, it WILL wrap around the tines, no matter which direction they are turning. I specifically bought a tiller with the reverse rotation option. That tiller would be worthless without the reverse feature.
 
(quoted from post at 17:31:34 04/27/18) Also I'm not sold on reverse rotating tines seems like they over grind the soil and wrap trash around them instead of burying it
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The benefit of the reversible tines is that if you see trash wrapping around the tines soon enough, you can reverse and "spin it off" before it gets all horked up.

The reverse rotation does IMO "fluff" the soil beautifully. Some people think this helps the soil and they say it has all kinds of biologic benefits, worms, soil microbes, micro this/that, blah blah. Your mileage may vary.

But what I do know is that if you hit a good rock with forward rotation it's going to bust the #### out of something.

Grouse
 
(quoted from post at 06:21:38 04/28/18)
(quoted from post at 17:31:34 04/27/18) Also I'm not sold on reverse rotating tines seems like they over grind the soil and wrap trash around them instead of burying it
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The benefit of the reversible tines is that if you see trash wrapping around the tines soon enough, you can reverse and "spin it off" before it gets all horked up.

The reverse rotation does IMO "fluff" the soil beautifully. Some people think this helps the soil and they say it has all kinds of biologic benefits, worms, soil microbes, micro this/that, blah blah. Your mileage may vary.

But what I do know is that if you hit a good rock with forward rotation it's going to bust the #### out of something.

Grouse
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Finding buried treasure while in reverse mode has a tendency to sort of lock things up also.
 
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