Everywhere you see these outfits building sheds or selling them. Seems to be the latest fad or craze. Looked at some the other day $20,000 with an upstairs. Some outfits are set up to just haul them and put them in place. Others do custom work like a deck or paint job. Wondering if this is the same in your area and if it will last or fall apart like a pyramid scam? Seems to me the two words "market saturation" will come in to play!!! Plus they can be moved or resold. Looking at this It reminds me of the tarp, cover it buildings and those conex shipping containers people used as a building. Both of which have gone by the wayside. Your thoughts?
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grandpa Love
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Every 20 miles in Alabama there is a feed store,car lot or someone with a parking lot full of them for sale. I can't custom build em on site for what they are selling for.
rockyridgefarm
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look over the build quality real close. A lot of them are slapped together as cheaply as possible. You see them on CL a few years old and they usually look pretty rough.
I looked into them last year and ended up building my own 12x20 from a building kit from Menards. I made changes I thought were needed, like tin instead of that fake barn board paneling and screws instead of nails.
I don't think it's anything new here. The local lumber yard has hired contractors to build them for decades. In fact,I remember in high school shop class,one of the classes built one. The Amish here build a lot of them. Some of them are pretty fancy,I'll give you that. Put a bathroom in one and I could live in one with no problem at all. Where you get in to trouble is with insurance and taxation. The insurance companies want them to meet all their requirements for a permanent structure,but the owners claim they're portable and not a part of the real estate for taxation.
farmerjohn
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Our forefathers built their houses and barns to last for generations, as the farm was passed down through the family. Life doesn't work that way anymore, the mindset is to build to suit the present the most economical way and expect it to last 10-20 years. These portable sheds fit the bill.
RR I was thinking the same on the big ones. Anyone could live in it, upstairs too!! Well I just can't believe how strong it has come on. Used to be some were built on site or they had simple 8x8 for storage. Not anymore. There was also a one and mostly 2 car garage craze here years ago some out fits would blow in and put one up in about a day and a half!!! As one poster said the quality of some was on par with a doghouse!!!
Ya,the neighbor right to the north has two of them. They have one right by the house and use it to park their UTV and keep their garden tools in,but I sold them some of the lake front that I had just north of their house and they have one down over the hill there that they use for a lake house. That one's super nice. It has a front porch and the whole nine yards. If she ever booted him out of the house,I don't think he'd have a problem with it. He could go down there and live a pretty good life. LOL
I watched them deliver the one that they have in the yard. They had something that kind of looked like a walk behind garden tractor. They hauled it in the driveway on a trailer,stuck that thing under one end of it and walked it right over to where they set it. I'll bet it didn't take ten minutes from the time they drove in until they had it set.
I watched them deliver the one that they have in the yard. They had something that kind of looked like a walk behind garden tractor. They hauled it in the driveway on a trailer,stuck that thing under one end of it and walked it right over to where they set it. I'll bet it didn't take ten minutes from the time they drove in until they had it set.
rustyfarmall
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If it is portable, it is too small to be of much use to me.
Supposedly,no. Not in Michigan anyway. We don't have personal property tax. It has to be a permanent structure to be taxed. As a member of board of review,I had to go out and look at one once. The guy was adamant that it wasn't permanent. Another board member and I went out. The way it was set,with plumbing and electrical hooked up,it wasn't going anywhere. He's paying taxes on that one.
If it was up to me,even some of these hunting shacks would be taxed. They're set on poles and aren't temporary by any stretch. For the most part though,anything less than 100 square feet,the assessor leaves it alone. Two assessors ago,she would tax a travel trailer if it didn't have a current license plate.
If it was up to me,even some of these hunting shacks would be taxed. They're set on poles and aren't temporary by any stretch. For the most part though,anything less than 100 square feet,the assessor leaves it alone. Two assessors ago,she would tax a travel trailer if it didn't have a current license plate.
rockyridgefarm
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They aren't all as local as you'd think. Many of them are mass produced a fair distance away and placed at strategic locations to sell. We stopped at half a dozen places when we were looking and they were built at one location, but sprinkled about a 100 mile radius. Some of them you walk in and you see nails that miss the trusses, and a lot fewer nails than you'd use yourself. There's better ones and worse ones. They're selling at a price point. If you want one at 5 grand, you get one at 5 grand. If you want one of quality, you're gonna have to spend 10 grand or more.
One thing I HATE is horizontal tin, especially on a roof. It costs more to mount tin vertical.
This is the one I built with a lot of help from friends who are better at it than me...
I also built this playgorund 7 years ago for my kids. They're 11 and 9, and don't have much interest in it anymore, so I'm gonna have to sell it at some point soon.
One thing I HATE is horizontal tin, especially on a roof. It costs more to mount tin vertical.
This is the one I built with a lot of help from friends who are better at it than me...
I also built this playgorund 7 years ago for my kids. They're 11 and 9, and don't have much interest in it anymore, so I'm gonna have to sell it at some point soon.
hydro70guy
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Nothing new our shop class built 5 of them every winter to sell in the spring with proceeds going towards shop equipment.
Adirondack case guy
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For the last 10 years the Amish have been building everything from dog houses to 14x30' storage sheds and vacation cabins. Anything that can be transported on a 5th wheel trailer. The Menonites who have moved here have virtually taken over the market for onsite pole barns. They even built a beautiful new 2 story gabriel roof ACE Hardware store in the area.
They are really getting into Morton Buildings shorts.
Loren
They are really getting into Morton Buildings shorts.
Loren
Ken Macfarlane
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Sea cans, tarp buildings, baby barns etc are all still super popular here. Those metal car port things have never taken off here though.
Traditional Farmer
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- Location
- Virginia
Wife has an Amish built one 12 X 20 to store her cast iron collection,cookware collection,butter churn collection,etc etc.Its built really well nice building.I have several carports for goat
shelters and a 20 X 40 carport form some of my garden tractors.Every house I see built in my area generally has one show up.
shelters and a 20 X 40 carport form some of my garden tractors.Every house I see built in my area generally has one show up.
Those portable sheds are also available as kits. Everything is pre-cut, labeled and packaged for buyer to build on site. I like to add my own extra bracing and extra fasteners. I have a 8x16 garden shed that is 32 years old now. The siding has required some repair and the original shingles are now getting thin, but is not leaking yet. All in all I'm very happy with it. I'd build another one if I needed another one, they are much less expensive than a permanent structure.
DoubleO7
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- Location
- Crystal River, FL
Dream on, you do in Florida.
No matter the square footage, you have to pull permits, submit "certified, engineered drawings", build to the code, etc. etc. just like a house.
And pay taxes on the value.
Eldon (WA)
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I used to build a lot of sheds, had rafter patterns to make things go faster. I would precut almost everything in my garage the night before, arrive on site and have the shed together, caulked and painted in 2 days, 2 1/2 days if I did soffits. A good set of clamps and one person can make good money building them.
carvel minne farmer
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rockyridgefarm just a word to the wise on selling that play ground for the kids, "don't do it" your oldest is 11 and it's possible in 10 years grandkids will be playing on that. it looks well built and trust me those next 10 years will go by in a blur :lol: BTDT.
RR we went through that war quite few year ago. It is basically up to the town. Some tax sheds car ports, pools etc. And yes this temporary building thing got a good going over. So did campers that have been parked at the lake for 20 years!!! Some towns do personal property (your lawn mower and weed eater) some do not. Livestock can be taxed too. I can tell you all the above can be a can of worms.
Jocco, have one of those buildings. It was in the way of one of my customers new shop. Was delivering straw for erosion control and asked about it. Said if someone could move it they could have. 14 ft x 18 ft. It now resides on our property as an office. Fully finished, insulated, 6 insulated windows, French doors, hardwood floor, vaulted ceiling, skylights, and fully wired. Said his brother paid over $20,000.00 to have it built. Best 4 hours of my time spent. Those sell like hot cakes out here.
Here the Amish build them and they are built like a tank with the best lumber,and they sell them RENT-TO-OWN and boy is that a scam.We bought a small one only 10x12 for my wife's sewing room well it was 3,000.00 we didn't have the cash at the moment so we went rent to own.We found out after we bought it that the rent was 148.00 a month and not a penny of that goes toward the principle.We tripled up the payments so we could pay it off sooner.That's not the way I thought rent to own worked,oh well live and learn.
seems like anyone with an open lot that's not full of RVs ready to ship (lots of good farm ground is now storing RVs) has a lot with 4-10 prefab storage units/office/play houses. never see them move any. drive by one ammish place that builds them. they move quite a few. about a year ago they leveled off a field and built a nice large building and started from scratch.
i think they're a bit too pricey but to build a 8x12 with alum soffit and vinyl siding cost me about 1000ish. should have built it 40x60 or at least 18x12. may add on after we get a few other things paid for like a wedding next year.
i think they're a bit too pricey but to build a 8x12 with alum soffit and vinyl siding cost me about 1000ish. should have built it 40x60 or at least 18x12. may add on after we get a few other things paid for like a wedding next year.
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