Backhoe for Deere 1010 crawler

JDEM

Well-known Member
Long post here. Cannot come up with a shorter version.

Main issue is I need a backhoe-loader to leave at a remote property. I have a Deere 1010 crawler-loader in great shape. Has a rear model #
35 ripper.

#1 ? I am considering putting a new 8.5' Chinese hoe attached to that rear ripper.

#2 ? Finding a full-size Deere model 50 or 51 hoe that will fit right on to the ripper-mount.

I have the new Chinese hoe. I suspect it is big enough for want I want to do. Plus is it is all new. Might be kind of small and light-
duty. It is set up for three-point hitch and came with a PTO hydraulic pump. No PTO on my 1010. So I'd have to find a way to hook it up to
the 1010 hydraulic system. Main system is 23 GPM with 1" lines. No way can the little control valve on this Chinese hoe pass that much.

The rear ripper has an up and down hydraulic function with 1/2" lines. 1/2" is good for around 6 GPM. This hoe is rated for 8 GPM - so
1/2" lines are almost adequate. I am wondering if I tie the raise lever in "up" and have that line running to the hoe - it will work well
enough?

I already have my small dozer up there. I also have my 641 Ford with a front loader and 5 foot brush cutter on back. I was kind of
hoping to find something worth buying locally for less then $4000 but have given up. I have two backhoes in the lower peninsula but I?d
kind of like not to move them.

My plan last summer was to get a three-point-hitch backhoe brand-new and put it on the Ford 641. I bought a brand-new hoe for $4400. Now
? I am rethinking things. I need the brush cutter and removing it and putting on that hoe, back and forth won?t be fun. Also, there is
not much of a front loader on that Ford.

By the way - if anyone knows of a Deere model 50 or 51 backhoe attachment for sale and not all rusted or worn out - in the Michigan area -
let me know. Doubtful - but who knows?
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Dad has an older Long three point backhoe that's been handy for years. The PTO hydraulics on it were plenty fast in most cases with engine at 1/3 throttle. I'm wondering if the Chinese backhoe would still work just fine on the 1010, long as the engine speed is kept slower for the backhoe use only. Just a thought..
 
I use to own a 1010 Loader crawler with a 50 hoe. Great little machine, did a lot of work with it. I now have a Deere Backhoe that will hang on the same brackets that the 50-51 hung on. But nothing to put it on. I considered putting it on my D3B Cat dozer but never got arount to it. I have the frame bracket that would bolt up to any other machine with the quick hooks and pins that the hoe uses. I believe the model is 980 or 930. It is a little bigger than a 50 or 51 hoe but much better. The weak swing cylinder design on the 50 I had was expensive to repair way back then and alway loose in the spline. The hoe I have now uses two regular hydraulic cylinder to swing. I would consider selling it if someone was interested. It would hang on a 410 industial perfectly.
 
Yeah, finding the exact hoe to fit the track loader is probably a long shot. You could be looking for a long time, if not forever.

Since you have the Chinese hoe now, you've got nothing to lose by giving it a shot. Worst case it doesn't do what you want, you can simply remove it and sell the "nearly new" backhoe for about the same as what you're going to get selling the "never used" backhoe now.
 
I have an Allis Chalmers Mark IV backhoe I adapted to my 1010 crawler loader that I have not used since I bought an excavator. Would sell it cheap if you want to come to NY. It hasn't been used in about 18 years but worked well when parked lol. It was very strong, would lift the whole crawler off the ground if you hooked into something.
 
I sold my Allis Mark IV when I moved out of NY three years ago. Sold it for $800 and it was all set up for a Deere 350 dozer. I wish now I had find a way to take it with me.
 
I know if I had a quick-coupler on the big and main 1" hydraulic hose and plumbed it in - it would work fine with the engine running at low RPM. I'd have to unhook it though and plug it back into itself when using the front loader. If I didn't it would be too much restriction. Having a coupler on that line worries me. If it ever came apart by accident with those quick-couplers - the hydraulic pump would blow to pieces.
 
So Sorry my memory is not as good as it should be. My hoe is a 9550 JD not a 930 or 980 I don't know where those numbers came from. They mount on a 350JD crawler just fine. The 1010 is not much different than the 350. Many of the same track and drive parts were interchangable between the two.
 
I don?t know much more about your machine then what I?ve read here and looking at the pictures. One thing I?ll mention does the machine have an open or closed hydraulic system? Obviously your valve needs to be compatible. By a web search I see the machine was made in the early sixties, about when JD introduced closed center hydraulics on there Ag tractors. Hope you find what you?re looking for.
 
Deere crawlers have always had open-center hydraulics. Same with the 1010 and 2010 wheel tractors. That is why I worry about having a hydraulic quick-coupler on the main hydraulic line. If it ever accidentally came apart - it would create a "closed center" and blow the pump to pieces.
 
Like I said, I had a 1010 loader with backhoe. On the back of the seat was a push pull splitter valve. The main hydraulic line ran to that valve first, and in normal operation of the loader the valve directed all the flow to the loader valve bank. After backing up to the backhoe and quick couples were hooked up, you pulled up on the splitter valve and the flow went to the backhoe. You did not need to shut it off. Then you could lift the hoe with the outriggers and back into the hangers, and boom it back to put the top pins in. Two minutes tops to hook up the hoe. I never had a 1" quick coupler come appart. I always kept the quick couplers connected on both the crawler and the hoe when not using the hoe, it kept them clean.
I had a log splitter that I could quick couple up to the 1010 and run off the crawler and ran the log splitter with it's own valve like normal just used the 1010 hydraulic at an idle to split wood.
 

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