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I live in PaA and was wondering if anyone has any experience with using hay basket wagons on hills. Are they too top heavy? Wheel base wide enough?
 
Certainly wide enough.

With the triangle base, leaning forward and to one side makes a person ponder things....... when full.

Any other angle doesn't bother me a bit.

Paul
 
I strongly considered an ez-trail bale basket. IMHO they are a low cost way to get hay off the field, especially if you are an army of one. We
have hills and the stability issue was a concern, but reading posts, it appeared to me they do well on hills. However, anything can tip and the
triangle wheel in certain turns, angles might get tipsey. But I think they are a great idea.

For me, the downside of a basket - on the army of one front was getting the hay, not just out of the field, but out of the rain. So we added a pan
kicker to our JD348, are retrofitting our flat wagons to kicker wagons and configuring our shelters to park loaded wagons, out of the rain for
unloading. Bottom line is when my family help can?t make it, I can get the hay off the field and under cover by myself. Don?t know if that?s your
situation, but something to consider.

Good luck,
Bill
 
If you are pulling a full one behind a pickup,
they can tilt back, lifting the rear wheels of the
truck off the ground when you top a hill. I got
stuck crossing a creek like that once. They do
just fine behind the tractor and baler.
 

I bought a brand new EZ Trail. I've loaded it to the point I had to climb up and stack the hay so be able to load more. They are no more tippy than a 4 wheel hay rack IME, but I don't bale crosswise in real steep ground. They work great in 1 or 2 man operations.
 
(quoted from post at 08:47:31 03/30/18) I strongly considered an ez-trail bale basket. IMHO they are a low cost way to get hay off the field, especially if you are an army of one. We
have hills and the stability issue was a concern, but reading posts, it appeared to me they do well on hills. However, anything can tip and the
triangle wheel in certain turns, angles might get tipsey. But I think they are a great idea.

For me, the downside of a basket - on the army of one front was getting the hay, not just out of the field, but out of the rain. So we added a pan
kicker to our JD348, are retrofitting our flat wagons to kicker wagons and configuring our shelters to park loaded wagons, out of the rain for
unloading. Bottom line is when my family help can?t make it, I can get the hay off the field and under cover by myself. Don?t know if that?s your
situation, but something to consider.

Good luck,
Bill
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You can put a hay basket under a roof as easy as a 4 wheeled kicker rack. What am I missing?
 
We run 6 of them on hills that are rough, they will run on
steeper side hills than kicker racks. On the stuff that is really
bad like tractor slipping sideways, you can just fill them 2/3
full.
 
I don't quite understand, you can put a wagon under a roof, whether a basket or a kicker full of hay, don't get it?

Paul
 
Depends on what you mean by "basket wagons." Around here that is another name we use for four-wheeled "kicker racks." Also known simply as "hay wagons."

If you are talking about those, it depends. They can be VERY stable or VERY tipsy, depending on the combination of wagon and running gear. I've seen some 9' wide wagons on narrow gears and they worry me. We've got some 9' wagons with wide 12 ton gears under them that I would not hesitate to run loaded on any side hill that you could stay in the seat on.

We did have one narrow wagon roll over on us one time when I was real young. The neighbor farmer's kid was helping unload hay and tipped the wagon over on the side hill leading up to the elevator.
 
Good Luck with the kicker wagons.. We used them several yrs and went to bale baskets. Best move ever. Believe it or not you save time vs a kicker wagon. Unloading kicker wagons is a pain in the ***! Happy Easter
 
I have... once. It was loaded FULL and he went where he never should have.
They are wide. Under normal circumstances, they are safe anywhere a kicker wagon would be. I've been using them for 25+ years, and never felt like one was even close to tipping, although I do have relatively flat land.
 
We have 8 flat racks that are being converted to kicker racks, all of which will have ready shelter space to get them out of the weather - fully
loaded. I know some folks have more than one bale basket, but I think with those things, typically it?s one basket, dump and go back to the
field. Also, where the kicker wagon is parked is not necessarily where the hay will be stacked, so we can hook up and move the loads around
as necessary. That?s what I mean about parking in a barn.
 
(quoted from post at 07:23:35 03/30/18) Good Luck with the kicker wagons.. We used them several yrs and went to bale baskets. Best move ever. Believe it or not you save time vs a kicker wagon. Unloading kicker wagons is a pain in the ***! Happy Easter
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I baled into my three kicker wagons for maybe 15 years. When I delivered and unloaded, after taking the first 20 bales that were a step away, I walked back and forth setting the bales on the elevator which sat on the front of the wagon. I thought that it worked well, at least until the hip pain got too bad. It has been my understanding that with baskets you bring the basket close to the elevator then trip the back gate to let them out. I pictured most bales being within fifteen feet of the elevator, then others scattered from 15 to 30 feet from the elevator, and the bottom end of which would be 30 or so inches off the ground. Am I way off in this picture?
 
Not far off...
The bottom of the hay basket is probably only 6-8" off the ground. The whole load will be dumped within 20' or so, once a few loads
have polished it up inside. Depending on where you start dumping, you can get the whole load within 10' of the elevator. If you
start right at the elevator, you'll have a longer walk than if you can dump as you go past it.
 
Most guys that I know (including me) have at least two baskets. Depends on how close the field is, if I use one or switch and have someone haul...if I have someone available to haul. Late in the day, I often switch and put two loads in the shed to unload the next day. No harder to hitch up or move a haybasket than a kicker wagon. Easier to back up, actually.
 
Thank you everyone for all of the replies. I appreciate all of the information. Does anyone know of anyone selling any near PA?
 
(quoted from post at 23:10:20 03/30/18)
(quoted from post at 16:21:09 03/30/18) Poke here...
Dumping a Bale Basket...
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I see a LOT more walking to put that load on the elevator than from a wagon
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I've done it both ways. The basket is way easier and faster. And it only takes one person at the elevator. If kids are your help you need 2 on a wagon, 1 with a basket.
 
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