New Holland Fuels

Traditional Farmer · Feb 20, 2018

I see in their magazine they send me that NH is now working with Propane and Methane to fuel their larger tractors seems like they are getting into to them big time.Also Hydrogen powered tractor.Not a gasoline but headed that direction it seems.

Sprint 6 · Feb 20, 2018

I would be interested to see the fuel economy of a gas direct injected large tractor. I would think the fuel economy would be near a diesel, without all the fragile emissions system or needing DEF. Auto manufacturers are getting some impressive mpg figures from their direct injection gas truck engines, I have a customer with a '15 Tahoe 4wd hitting 22mpg on the interstate with its direct inject 5.3.

Steve@Advance · Feb 20, 2018

Are any mfg. using GDI on larger trucks?

It used to be limited to 1/2-3/4 ton IIRC, haven't followed it lately though.

Assumed it was too maintenance intensive for commercial use, that and the intake deposit issue.

wanabefarmer · Feb 20, 2018

Looked one ton Dodge yesterday posted 20 highway 18 city $10,000 less than diesel of same model. It would take a lot of miles to justify going with diesel.

Sprint 6 · Feb 20, 2018

There is no maintenance that I know of on GDI. Definitely not as much maintenance as a modern diesel fuel system. Failures in a GDI system also would not be as expensive as a modern diesel. Injection pump failure on a modern diesel truck can cost $10K+ to fix correctly.

The intake deposit issue some have had would be less of a problem on a commercial use engine under heavy load most of the time. The deposit issue is mostly caused by short tripping and lots of cold starts. Toyota is going to combat the deposits by going split injection, small port injectors combined with GDI.

DeltaRed · Feb 20, 2018

I watched a video of that recently. Pretty impressive.The local natural gas supplier runs it's vehicles on CNG(compressed natural gas).The they have for years. Of coarse it helps to have the 'fueling station' in their own back yard.

Duane WI · Feb 20, 2018

In some areas of the country natural gas is plentiful. Some farms even have natural gas wells. I have often thought that a CNG tractor could be a great thing for those farmers.

ohiojim · Feb 20, 2018

neighbor compresses his own natural gas and injects it into his big diesel tractors, says it boosts hp. and decreases his use of diesel fuel

Steve@Advance · Feb 20, 2018

I guess "maintenance intensive " wasn't the correct term.

What I should have said was "maintenance sensitive".

Essential to keep the oil changed on schedule, and only the correct oil.

It just seems a little high tech for fleet use, but then they probably are working out the bugs.

wels · Feb 20, 2018

Around here most of the garbage trucks run CNG. Plenty of natural gas in Western PA

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