V-blade verses straight blade with wings

stonerock

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had a V-blade back in 2010 ran it two years got rid of it. plow one big lot 5-600 cars nothing to go around but light poles, have two trucks both with myers 7.6 blade with wings. grandaughter plowin small lots with other myers with wings, hired plow truck had 9' V-plow, I have 7.6 with wings [9.6 wide] he had half the lot and I had the other, I got done twenty mins quicker than he did. been plowin snow for 35 years around this small town, V blades have there place but not in production plowin .I moved the same amount of snow than he did only twenty mins quicker, done this little test 10-15 times in different lots, i always out plow him. if you production plow V- blade is not making you much money......p.s. hard to stack snow with V-blade to heavy in front end
 
Skill helps also. I let my guys run the fancy western wideouts. I can keep up with less skilled guys with my ole 8.5? western pro and it never breaks down. I have put some good money into a few of these wideouts also. Best thing I have to move snow? John Deere 325 skid loader and 10? boss pusher box, does the the job of two pickups easily on a 30 acre complex we do. I run 20 plows and only one old Hiniker V plow. That dude is heavy.
 
oliverguy, you plow a lot more than I do, thats my biggest lot plus about 15-19 food, gas stations, doctors banks and storage buildings. I have a 2006 j.d. 244j loader with a 15' snow box on the farm and never use them [for snow] loader scrapes barn lot every week and puts out round bales
 
I guess what I have that moves the most is a Terex 760 backhoe and 14? pusher box, but only good for big lots. Your loader and box sounds like a perfect set up. I don?t how many horse a 244 is. My hoe is pretty strong at 90 something hp and handles a decent amount of snow. The job it is located at I plowed with 4 trucks 10 years ago. Now it?s the Terex and a slow one ton dump with that hiniker V. Those two guys now get done quicker!
 
I used to run a 7.5' Western with the wings on a one ton Chevy, SRW pickup. Did a great job on carrying snow to the end of storage buildings. When I quit the commercial plowing (2000), pushers were relatively rare, but the owner of the storage facility replaced me with his own employee on a Case skid steer with tracks, and now has a pusher on that. Seems to do a good job, but I don't know how long it takes.

I kept my 89 Chevy half ton and put an 8'Wetern Pro Plow on it. I like the plow, but it is too heavy for the truck, even after beefing it up. I wore a lot of stuff out on the original Western with wings, in part because it was moving more snow than it was designed for, I think. Had I had the stronger Pro plow with wings, I hope it would have lasted longer. I do like the straight 8' for back blading better than the wings, it works cleaner.

I agree that there are fewer times to need the V plow, and more uses of the inverted Vee- which is similar to your plow with wings. I wonder if anyone has used those fancy new V plows with the huge, flared plows commercially. They look like they weigh a ton, and I'm sure are $8K in stainless or more!

What I would design, would be a super-short bed, regular cab, one ton, with straight front axle/leaf springs to carry the load and be handy to turn, and a nice, heavy plow. The wideouts seem like a good idea, do they just need the kinks worked out?
 
I bought some of the first Blizzards in '04 and '05. They have been very good and are still working (hopefully they will be out tonight!). Western bought them and refined a few things to make a wideout. I like them but they are heavy, couple more cylinders, more wiring, module, etc. They are awesome for windrowing snow. I have all of them mounted on heavy 3/4's and they are plenty heavy.
 
I don't know anything about snow plowing with a truck, I like my cab tractor with a blower and a FEL. Would the key be the fact you have been plowing for 35 years? I know I plow circles around the neighbors with my unit due to experience.

My son has three plow trucks and he says he plows circles around the others with his V plow truck. The other two are just a straight blade, I don't know the widths of them. He has contracts with some condo's and apartment comp[exes. The guy that works with him, like you, has been plowing with a truck forever. Sounds like a different type of plowing you do. Like the big snow pushers work great on the big lots but not so good for smaller work.
 
V-plows have there purpose, just as a straight blade does. Have a Boss 7'6" super duty straight blade on my personal truck (2500HD). Only plow my personal property, the truck doesn't go down the road when there is salt about.! At work we plow with Boss V-plow 8'2" it works nice for opening areas for the first time after heavy snow or driveways entrances that are pushed in by HWY plow trucks. But to clean up a parking lot quicker I would want a straight blade plow. I never really used a plow with wings before so I cannot comment on those. Operator experience plays a big part as well. Some people just have a hard time trying to figure out which way to push the snow where to stack it or which side of a long drive to push it towards to keep the drifting minimal.
 
Stonerock, My only problem with the winged plow was if the snow got to deep in the parking lot it would come over the plow. Then I would do a section at a time. Raggy old IH with a 9 foot wing is my new ride! Already moved a lot of snow.
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I run a 9 foot Hiniker scoop. That plow hogs the snow in a parking lot. The reason the V plow is slower is most people invert the V too much and end up plowing too narrow with each pass. I used to run wings on a 7.5 foot Leo plow. Actually had some thick metal rolled and made our own wings. That worked well. The 9 foot straight blade Leo on the other truck does a nice clean job but the scoop is faster. Leo is manufactured locally in the twin cities. Heavy duty.
Run older superduty pickups with straight axle and One ton leaf springs.
 
OK A QUESTION how can you with that V blade plow a full blade width to the side? And the v blades I have seen with that hinge in the midle if you could straighten it for to roll all snow over to side like trying to plow a road that hinge would not let the snow slide past it. All I can see they are good for is just to try to puse an opening rolling the snow equally to both sides and if you wanted to try to widen that path even if snow was light enough to push a full blade you could only do a half of a blade because of that hinge in the middle. And with it in V mode you push in and cannot go any farther that V keeps you from being able to back out. For something like the parking lots do those blades reverse the V to pull the snow in more than just a straight blade to push it only foreward? I just cannot see a V plow working.
 
Leroy, in the first 15 seconds of this video, it shows a V-plow 1) plowing in a V, to both sides, 2) plowing with an inverted V, like a scoop, and 3) plowing to one side. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTREGLHTDHs

I have no experience with V-plows, but they seem to have gotten better over the years about letting snow slip through the hinged portion of the blade. Also, as these blades can angle to either side like most straight blades, it makes them more adaptable than the fixed blades like many county plows have, that can only push snow to one side or the other.
 
The only V blades I have seen have the hinge sticking out 6" in the middle of the blade to be able to make them adjust. If there was a way for the hinge on back side of blade then snow could slide but with a block sticking out in the middle I don't see how. And I have trouble with trying to watch videos.
 
Here's a link to lots of images of V-plows. There are many different designs, and some will work better than others.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?...sk=&cvid=B5F8BC6F164A4C1B92E0E38609F413B9

I also do not understand having the hinge sticking out so far in front, but many models have the hinge on back side of plow. There may be a small trail of snow left in the middle sometimes, but it's certainly nothing that would cause any problems for traffic.

Also, the amount of snow (if any) that slips through these blades depends largely on the properties of the snow. Dry powder will slip through much easier than the wet, sticky stuff. Plowing at a higher speed will also let less snow through over slower speed.
 

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