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dhermesc

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I am looking at a 2 wheel trailer to use for hay. It has a single axle with a 20" split rim truck tires mounted (looks like the front axle off an old grain truck). Its only a 5 lug wheel and I have no idea on the measurements - only seen pictures. What manufacturer would have used 5 lug rims on a 2 ton trucks - or I guess when did manufacturers use 5 hole rims on trucks that size? Is there a supplier for non-split rims?
 
didnt old f600 use a 5 hole wheel from mid 60 back, i would check local junk yards thay might have a cheep tire and wheel.
 
Probably a Budd Wheel Design Large countersunk lug nuts on big studs. Typical. Diamond T and many others used them. Jim
 
Dodge,IH 160,Ford F5,Studebaker all used a five hole wheel. They date from the 1940s in to the 60s.A 'standard' split rim is still safe when mounted and handled properly. The dangerous one is the 2 piece 'widowmaker'. A wheel like you want is plentiful.Check salvage yards,old farmers yards....One piece/tubeless rims are rare,and very expencive.I just sold a 5 hole wheel/7.50 tire at action this weekend. Brought 5 dollars. If you were close,you could have had it.I may still one or two left out back.Find a tire shop that specializes in truck and farm tires. They have the experience,know how and equipment to do the job.Probably do them every day. Forget the 'automotive'(WalMart,big O,etc) tire stores. Those guys couldn't find their butt with both hands.
 
Also model "AA" Ford trucks. My dads 1932 dump truck has them. He always called them Budd wheels. They are not going to be easy to find. They are out there but you are going on a search. Make sure the ring and rim are good and true and are not rust rotten around that rim. Very critical! !!!
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You can find them, sadly a lot are getting junked as people just buy the tires and throw the rims away.

Avoid the Widow Maker style, it comes open in the middle of the drop center, bad idea - can't see it/ inspect it/ pressure is pulling it apart, not pushing it together. All the other styles with a ring(s) on the side of the tire shoulder you can see are good and fine.

Paul
 
I went looking and found that was the case - after some more searching I found that 17.5" wheels from Dodge RVs in the 1970s and 1980s also had the same bolt pattern.
 

My bale trailer was made from a 46 Ford truck. Same 5 bolt 7.50x20 tires. Duals. I've changed them myself on the farm with some pretty rudimentary tools and no problems. Maybe I just got lucky?
 
I have 3 hay trailers exactly like what you're talking about. All of them have a 5 bolt pattern rim from an old grain truck. Every one of them also is a different pattern and won't interchange. I run airplane tires on them. I put new tires on two of the trailers a couple years ago and there is a local place here that cut the center out and welded it into a new blank rim. You wouldn't happen to be within driving distance of Baldwin Ks. would you?
 
Local retreading place has a machine to cut out the center of wheels and weld them into a new rim, maybe look for a place like this.
 
My 58 gmc has split rims with 20 inch tires. The true widowmakers. My 35 Chevy has 20 inch on ring style split rims with 5 hole fronts.
 
Yes,Chevy/GMC also used a 5 hole wheel but it was not the same.They were called the 'Motor wheel'. The bolt holes were smaller,straight shouldered(not tapered),The bolt circle is different too. they are not interchangeable with the 'Budd' type found on Ford,Dodge,IH....My '68 Chevy C50 uses a 5 bolt wheel too,but it is different still.....
 
For your use just cut the old center out and weld in a 22.5 rim and good to go. your not going fast and they weld good. I have done it to several including some 15 inch implement wheels. Even put new centers in a couple of wheels for our fertilizer spreader. The old bolts were broken out to bad to fix.
 
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