Dreamin out loud

Dieselrider · Feb 4, 2018

Okay, just for gits and shigles on a winter afternoon:

Let's say money is no object and you wanted to build a barn for your operation. Say 50 by 100 foot. Would you build a PA style bank barn with hay storage on top and animals underneath? Maybe a 50 by 100 foot shed roof on the lower side for equipment? Reinforced concrete foundation or cement block on top of footers? Pin and post barn or pole building setting on top so there would be no posts in the way- just wide open space? Steel beams to hold up the top or large timber beams? Maybe keep the equipment under the hay and the animals in under the shed roof? Would that be too risky if there was a fire you could lose equipment and animals along with the barn and hay?

Would two pole buildings be a better idea- say one for equipment and one for hay storage? Perhaps a third pole building for animals? Perhaps an open sided structure to keep hay under roof and two pole buildings for equipment and animals?

What would your choice be? I suppose in Kansas, you wouldn't build a bank barn... Are there any bank barns in Kansas? I doubt, I would ever be able to fund a barn build but, it's nice to dream.

Ozlander · Feb 4, 2018

Animals underneath, living quarters above. Free heat.

Stephen Newell · Feb 4, 2018

I think I would just put up a standard steel frame building on a concrete slab. If money was no object I might insulate better and put tin on the inside as well.

Andy Martin · Feb 4, 2018

(quoted from post at 13:23:16 02/04/18)
Animals underneath, living quarters above. Free heat.

That stinks.

But you get used to it.

muleman51 · Feb 4, 2018

Heck, I'd build one of those fancy Sand Creek ones, live in it and to heck with the animals. Those barn houses always look pretty neat to me. Other wise two separate barns, machinery and livestock don't mix, makes things rust up real nice and I am sure my wife does not want to live with more livestock than me and the dog. Heated shop for sure. A roof for hay would be nice.

Keith Molden · Feb 4, 2018

Equipment and hay together or one below and one above. How many barns have we seen where the hay caught fire and burned it to the ground along with all the equipment stored under the hay. I really think, if I ever got that kind of money, I'd build 2 separate barns. Just my thoughts but then again if I came across that kind of money, I wouldn't have to worry, the cops would be here before I got them built LOL Keith

NY 986 · Feb 4, 2018

Plenty of bank barns back decades ago here in New York. They are not unique to Pennsylvania and probably as plentiful in other parts of the NE and perhaps the Midwest at least in the Ohio Valley. If money were no object I would build one just to have but for the everyday production of livestock probably something more modern for the hay handling aspect. I suppose you could put your rounds elsewhere and put your lighter equipment such as rakes and empty wagons upstairs.

David G · Feb 4, 2018

I think the idea of hay above animals so it can be manually thrown down for feed is gone.

I would have different functions in different buildings to allow for more flexibility and less risk.

Dave H (MI) · Feb 4, 2018

I am not sure why we are limiting traditional barns to bank barns...a lot of them were not. I chose two styles. I have my modern pole building equipment shed. 100x40x16. Nice building. A good 20' of head room inside. Stand on the combine and work on it and no worries for head room. Needs a shed on the side for hay wagons and boxes and miscellaneous. Going to add that later. Then there is the old dairy barn. Really old. Burned down decades ago. Only the footing and milkhouse still standing. I have already rebuilt the block walls for the ground level. Hoping to put the wood top on it this summer. 60x35xTBD. Won't have a shed. Has a 4 hole kennel built into it but will not hold livestock in it's new life. Likely my Farmall collection and some shop space and storage.

Tech 7 · Feb 4, 2018

For me with a flock of sheep I would go with a 6' concrete wall with a 4' stud wall on top for livestock, a roofed manure storage and a driveshed with concrete wall/studwall construction. I would still store my netwrapped hay and straw outside on truck tires on a concrete slab as I have for some time.

rustred · Feb 4, 2018

gross, that would stink to high heaven. he said money no object.

PDRuff · Feb 4, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHDYRaL-Xm8 I would go for something like this. love the potential..
dreaming

flying belgian · Feb 4, 2018

That's how you retain help. I would love going to work and feeding cattle with that setup.

Dick L · Feb 4, 2018

Pole barns! No weight problems like a bank barn that was built for loose hay above.

Dieselrider · Feb 4, 2018

Looks very iinteresting and usable. Does look like you would need lots of room to use. Noticed that the big square bales were not tightly stacked together to allow for ease of the grapple forks. Also noticed they didn't show attaching the opposing bucket jaws either. Bet one guy isn't going to just pick those up and hold em with one hand while sliding the pins in with the other.

Dieselrider · Feb 4, 2018

(quoted from post at 17:34:54 02/04/18) I am not sure why we are limiting traditional barns to bank barns...a lot of them were not. I chose two styles. I have my modern pole building equipment shed. 100x40x16. Nice building. A good 20' of head room inside. Stand on the combine and work on it and no worries for head room. Needs a shed on the side for hay wagons and boxes and miscellaneous. Going to add that later. Then there is the old dairy barn. Really old. Burned down decades ago. Only the footing and milkhouse still standing. I have already rebuilt the block walls for the ground level. Hoping to put the wood top on it this summer. 60x35xTBD. Won't have a shed. Has a 4 hole kennel built into it but will not hold livestock in it's new life. Likely my Farmall collection and some shop space and storage.

Not meaning to limit my selection. Those are just what I am most familiar with. I would tour any barn looking to glean the positives and negatives of the setup. Always thought those big barns in New York and some of new England that butted right up against the house were interesting. Never knew what that was all about but, it caught my eye.

greg oliver · Feb 4, 2018

Dieselrider, In 1988 my dad and I started building our freestall 50 x 104. I think we spent $15,000 on materials the siding boards came from pine we cut and had sawed into boards. Picture was in Catskill Life magazine. That was are dream to get a little bigger. I could drive a tractor and wagon load of square bales into the top floor in the old barn.

Ozlander · Feb 4, 2018

(quoted from post at 18:04:30 02/04/18) gross, that would stink to high heaven. he said money no object.

Never been to Germany, huh?

oldtanker · Feb 4, 2018

If money were no object a person could build a barn to modern standards that appears to be an older style.

My thoughts would be separate buildings. One for animals, one for machinery and one for hay. As was pointed out by someone else the day of tossing hay down to animals is about done with. Much easier to put out a round or big square for the animals.

Machinery separate for a couple of reasons. Don't need the animals maybe breaking down a gate or door and getting into the chemicals associated with the equipment/fire hazard and so on.

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