Liquid ballast storage.

BarnyardEngineering · Jan 22, 2018

I've got two 15.5x38 and two 20.8x38 tires that I want to drain the CaCl ballast out of, and not put back in.

The idea here is to store it somewhere, short term just in case I need it, long term because I'm betting I'll have hard time finding someone to take it.

Plastic barrels won't rot from the CaCl, but they will degrade in sunlight. Steel barrels won't degrade in sunlight, but they will rot from the CaCl. I'm not keeping the barrels inside, not enough room.

So where does that leave me?

TBA · Jan 22, 2018

I would dump it somewhere I did
it and it diden t hurt anything.
I would never use caci again,if
u need fluid again use something
else.

DR. EVIL · Jan 22, 2018

Call your local ag tire guy, he can remove the CaCl and recycle it. Might not even charge you if your
nice.

glennster · Jan 22, 2018

i store in a poly tank. also have some in plastic 55 gallon drums. (the blue ones) if outside cover them with a tarp.

DeltaRed · Jan 22, 2018

I have Fertilizer and some calcium stored in blue plastic barrels.some Calcium has been stored for 5 years. they have not shown any sign of sunrot.go ahead and put in blue barrels. unless you're going to store it for 20 years,blue barrels are safe. I store barrels(empty or full) outside for years.

Dave8N in Pa · Jan 22, 2018

If your worried about the plastic barrels in sunlight, just paint them with the right paint and they can set outside.

caterpillar guy · Jan 22, 2018

To bad you're so far away I would take it to fill a few tires up some more where they are a bit short.
If you need more later you can get Calcium Chloride for melting snow and mix in water at different rates to refill the tires with.

ss55 · Jan 22, 2018

You could throw a tarp over plastic barrels to protect them from sunlight. An inexpensive fiberglass tarp will only last three years and will let some sunlight through. A canvas tarp will last longer and block most of the light. A fiberglass tarp over a canvas tarp might double the life of the canvas tarp.

I don't think there will be much trouble getting CaCl2 in the future. Some tire stores might push more expensive alternatives. What is the replacement cost of the ballast? Compare the cost of barrels, covers and extra handling to the cost of replacing the ballast, it might be a wash. Those tires could have up to 400 gallons of ballast, about eight 55 gallon drums. At 5 pounds of CaCl2 per gallon you could have up to 2000 pounds of calcium chloride.

BarnyardEngineering · Jan 22, 2018

The fluid in the 15.5's is available now, free to anyone who wants it. Bring barrels, and we'll pump it in for you.

Dad's got this awesome roller pump he picked up at an auction a couple years ago. Light years ahead of the old washing machine pump he dragged out of the junk pile in the late 70s. Used to take hours to fill a tire, constantly messing with the pump losing prime. Last one we did took 10 minutes.

The 20.8's I'd like to hold on to for a while. I'm putting new radial tires on that tractor and everyone tells me radials work better without the fluid.

Blackhole49 · Jan 22, 2018

That plastic 250 gallon tote you see in the picture has been my rain barrel for 15 years. The sun hasn't bothered it at all. If you can get plastic drums to store it in and get it into the drums, that's what I would do.

BarnyardEngineering · Jan 22, 2018

Thanks for the reassurances guys. I'm thinking 30 gallon barrels because we don't have forks for the loader and a reasonable sized person can shift 30 gallon barrels in and out of the loader bucket.

Traditional Farmer · Jan 22, 2018

Keep it to melt ice.

MarkB_MI · Jan 22, 2018

Rather than store it, spread it on your driveway to keep the dust down.

ss55 · Jan 22, 2018

Smaller barrels is a good idea. Keep in mind that the fluid weights 25 to 50 percent more than plain water.

LPgas only · Jan 22, 2018

Got to your local fuel dealer. Bet he has empty drums from DEF he would love to get rid of.

Skyhighballoon(MO) · Jan 22, 2018

+1 I have a couple 55 gallon blue plastic barrels filled with CaCl that have been sitting for about 5 years too and they are fine. Mike

WGM · Jan 22, 2018

So where in mother nature can you dump calcium chloride and not hurt anything?

rlp in Co. · Jan 22, 2018

So what are you going to use for weight?

donjr · Jan 22, 2018

Visit a few local dairies. They usually get teat dip and wash soap in 55 gallon blue drums, and have to get rid of them from time to time.

TBA · Jan 22, 2018

Pour in on a dirt road,not much different than millions of miles of it put down for snow-ice melt. What would you do with it and what do people do with it when they don't want it anymore?

hd6gtom · Jan 22, 2018

Call your local farm tire repair shop. I'd bet they'd come pump it out of the tires for you at no cost. I
always did, picked up a lot of tire customers that way.

Robert Major · Jan 23, 2018

We have some of the most strict and most stupid environment rules in Canada, I'm guessing if it was so bad the municipality's wouldn't be allowed to charge $300 or so to spray it on the gravel roads 300ft outside rich peoples houses. They use it to stop the dust blowing on their front decks of an evening during the summer.

The fun part is these guys might pay $900 as they grade the road past there 3 times and mess it up before the end of the summer. I have a big tote of it sits outside my shop that's been there 10 years . If they want to come empty it they can have it to charge these guys 300 a time.!
Regards Robert

BarnyardEngineering · Jan 23, 2018

Yeah, no... Even in this heavily agricultural community we have precious few tire shops that will do mobile tractor tire work, and the ones that do, CHARGE to pump and haul away CaCl solution.

Claim nobody wants it. Claim they can't get rid of it. Claim its worthless.

It's quite a racket because they will also charge you to pump solution into your tires, and they just show up with a bag of CaCl flakes and ask to use your garden hose.

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