18.4 x 38 Goodyear ultratorque vs Michelin agribid

Trying to decide whether to go with Goodyear ultratorque or Michelin agribid tires on a 966 international. Michelins are more expensive normally but cost the same due to a dealer bought out another and has overstock on them. I'll be bushhogging, feeding hay with front end loader, and pulling a disc with this tractor. Anyone have any experience or advice on which one is a better tire. Thanks for any help.

Good for a year would be at the bottom of my list. Get the Michelin.

nothing could be worse than gy

Go with the Michelin

Interesting what's wrong with Goodyear tires? I was just talking with my father the other day how they have lasted the best of any of our tires, some over 30 years with much less cracking

yep, and the firestone had better traction than the good year, but they lasted. i just wonder if anyone has actually took the time to see which one outlasts each other or which one has better traction. know of a lot of 30 year old good years too. lots of factors also.

Why not considering Firestone?
I agree with the anti Goodyear sentiment.

The old GY tires with the steep angle lugs were indestructible. But fell short on traction. GY sold lots of them, as they can be seen on any make/model of tractor/combine in old ads. At least they lasted.

The newer "dyna torque", both bias and radial, don't hold up like the old Goodyears, in my experience. I'd take an Armstrong/Titan over a Goodyear.

no traction on the track... side wall crackin, tube pinchin, wear out on the road tires thats my exp .if I buy a tractor with gys I deduct price. glad you love yours

Yes I suppose with utility tractors and limited road use we always looked strictly at weathering, pulling heavy tillage and extended road use definitely put a different strain on tires

Michelin is probably the best. We do a lot of road work spreading manure, hauling forage etc. and Michelin will outlast Firestone 2 to 1 or more in that application. Firestone casings will last a long time, but the rubber tread is soft (dealer says they don't let the harden in inventory anymore) and sort of melts off on the road.

I have only one tractor with Good Year right now. They seem OK (came on the tractor when I bought it last year). In the past my dealer had quite a few premature failures with goodyear.

You were describing Firestone for me. not Goodyear. Made up my mind years ago no Firestone for me.

really. if you don't mind how many hrs about do you get on the good years. leroy

All I will say about the agribib is I'm just putting 4 new tires worth over $4000 on my Valtra 6400 loader tractor, It annoys me to be throwing 4 tires away that still have a fantastic tread on but the side walls are junk. A few guys round here are liking BKT's for the price that have fitted them on older tractors including big 4wd's. The firestones for my tractor was going to be a crazy price. BKT's where i'm going, my agribibs aren't the first set I heard of gone like these have, Mine lasted longer than my buddys. He's heard of problems to on other tractors.

I told the tire guy if those BKT tires last until it needs a new set again as they are worn out being near bald. It won't be my problem as I don't want that tractor at 15.000 hours L.O.L.
Regards Robert

Never checked. When tires were on for years you even forgot when they were installed.

(quoted from post at 13:22:39 10/22/17) The old GY tires with the steep angle lugs were indestructible. But fell short on traction. GY sold lots of them, as they can be seen on any make/model of tractor/combine in old ads. At least they lasted.

The newer "dyna torque", both bias and radial, don't hold up like the old Goodyears, in my experience. I'd take an Armstrong/Titan over a Goodyear.

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If you look at the newer GY, they say "made by Titan" in small letters....

not to bash. but is this on a utility tractor. mowing . I run farming about 2500hrs a year on total on about 40 tires that are treaded mfwd. and up to 4wd.I cant get the time out of them that you say you do . I might be biased and would consider your view point on newer tires if I am missing something. plus another eight tires on the small time track, and another 100plus tires on antique tractors. what did I miss on my opinion, please fill me in .

We did. Spent 20+ years in the farm tire business. Seen way too many 3 and 4 year old GDYS with the seams split out. Dad lived 100 miles from me. He had a local dealer put 2 sets of them on his AC for that reason. I put on many semi loads of farm tires in my lifetime. Started out selling titan. After the second year of putting them on we switched to Kelly long bar short bars. Why, we were making many trips back to the Titans repairing flats, corn stalks and bean stubble. Found the Kelly LB/SB tires wore to fast on the road. Went to Firestone's, put on many semiloads of them. I always bought semi loads of them around the 1st of the year. That way they had time to set and hardened up. I don't remember any problems with the tires after we started doing that. The thing that started happening was the new tubes we were getting started splitting at the seams. The way to cure that was to start using heavy duty radial tubes in everything. If those were the only 2 choices I had it would be Michelin's. If they are mounted tube type, use only Michelin tubes with them.

I have heard this comment before about tires not being allowed to cure. It seems as though the tires we have to work with today do not last like the ones we used to buy. Had 2 tractors that were used a lot on the road. One had Goodyear Dyna Torque II Radials and the other had the Firestone 23 degree radials. The Firestones were like new when the tractor came on the yard back in 2006. In a matter of 4 years, the Firestones were really worn, while the Goodyear tires retained greater tread depth. I had several independent tire dealers recommend the Michelins over other brands when the tractor was to spend a lot of time going up and down the road, as ours does. They all told me the flatter angle design of the lugs on the Firestones are more prone to wear, as compared to the steeper angle of the Michelins. It was also stated the Michelins and their design originated from Europe where farm tractors are on the road more than in the United States. All I can say at this time is the Michelins seem to be holding up quite a bit better as compared to the Firestones. Compared to Goodyear, I really cannot offer much at this time other than Goodyear/Titan seems to have poor customer service/warranty in standing behind their product. We placed a new set of Goodyear radials on another tractor. The tires seem to be holding up well, however in the first spring we had them on the tractor, we had to place a tube in one of the front tires so it would hold air to get us through the spring. After spring, the tire was dismounted and they found 2 pinhole leaks in the face of the tire. The dealer went around and around with Titan/Goodyear for nearly 2 months until the company replaced the tire. It perturbs me the company even sent a tire out with 2 pinhole leaks.

I have had premature failures with both those brands and would not use either . To me a good tire is Cooper.

I've got Firestone 23* bias on one tractor, won't be getting any more, couple years old and already dipping bad from road wear.
Put a set of Michelins on another tractor about 4 years ago, their wearing good and ride good but we've had 5 flat repairs because of sidewall cracking. I spent as much on flat repairs as 1 tire cost, no more Michelins for me.
I don't think the new Good/Years are as good as the older models but a cousin has a set of Dyna Torque radials that came on on of his tractors new in 92, he said they don't get good traction in wet ground but they've lasted well, says he'll need to replace them soon.
My brother put BF Goodrich bias on his tractor and is happy with them, a nephew as put BF Goodrich radials on two of his tractors and is well pleased with them, I'll most likely replace those junky Michelins with BFG's sooner than I want.