Wow BIG farming with a vengeance!!! WOW

JD Seller

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I just came across this video on Youtube. I know nothing about the farming operation in the video. So I am not promoting it or ridiculing it. The size and scope of the operation just caught my eye. The one scene with 14 combines all lined up running across the field is just mind blowing.

So Just watch this to be amazed with the modern equipment.

Monette Farms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD4N0xQhN80
Monette Farms
 
The video of the JD 55 doing corn a few days ago had a follow up video after it of a monster 16 row combine doing corn. That stuff makes my 1 row picker look pretty tiny.
 
40,000 acres near Swift Current, SK. Saw an ad for employment there and pay of $18 to $20 per hour and benefits after a probationary period.
 
It would be equal to 17=18 bucks in US dollars plus benefits , would push it over $20.00 per hour in US dollars. Farmers have to pay wages at the same scale as the oil patch. You may be reluctant to believe it, but we do live fairly well here in Canada. You just have to be "cold tolerant " , We have every thing that you have in the USA , even some murderous lunatics .
 
Bruce, your math is different than mine... according to Google (I am away from my DTN price terminal), one Canadian $ is worth .80 US $ this morning. That would make the wages of $18 to $20 CAD equal to $14.40-$16 US.

You still have a nice country!
 
Here's one that caught my eye of wanta be BTOs.
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Well, I know that those guys driving those huge tractors across those fields that they can't even see the other end of, envy us guys back east that now and then, here and there, have to turn the wheel to go around a tree or a stone wall or pond or house or barn.
 
I've never been a big fan of corporate farming. But this is impressive. Those guys obviously have it together. The intriguing thing is they can afford to have experts on staff, agronomist, electronics expert, soil scientist, economist, etc. to rationalize planning and decision making.

If only they could plan the weather and futures market.
 
Hi JD,

Thanks for posting this. Great shots!

No matter what scale you farm on, we're all in this together.

Larry
 
That sounds as self aggrandizing as the web site of the one here that's been farming 83,000 acres. I'd heard two years ago that he had 36 combines. That they ran 18 pair of them in different locations. Trouble no is,the lender wants their 145.3 million dollars back.
 
Don't know about the subject and that farm but this picture is truly amazing considering the content and what it took to get it all together and all the machines and operators working.....and working together. Amazing.
 
Illinois Family Farms, Stamp Farms, Boresen Farms, McMartin, and other of these large 50,000 acre farms seem to have grown too fast and started failing already when grain prices were high.

Their failures will be borne by us little guys, as CHS and other coops will short us on dividends to make up the 145 million owed, and as local suppliers have to charge more for fuel, seed, fertilizer, big iron to make up the losses they are getting.

It appears getting much beyond 10,000 acres becomes an ego move, and is not really sustainable or ecconomacly workable in the current Ag economy. Economy of scale helps until then, but much past that the errors and losing track of the small things in farming swamp these operations.

They seem to need to grow to keep the money flow, and end up growing at very high rental and lease costs that simpler do not work long term.

Bad deal.

For those interested, google the names I mentioned, there is a lot of farm land that is on the rocks across this country! Someone is going to have to make up those big losses. Only for sure thing is, it won't be them!

Paul
 
When Boresen bought Stamp's assets there were those who said they wished it was Boresen who went broke instead. They said at least Stamp was a decent human being.
The vet said the other day that there were some who found out that if Borsen didn't make money,the land owner actually owed him money. Said there were clauses in there that let him charge the land owner for tree trimming,driveway maintenance,whatever he wanted to charge them for in essence.
If you go to their website they paint as rosy a picture as the beginning of the video that JDS posted.
 
(quoted from post at 06:09:04 10/04/17) Hi JD,

Thanks for posting this. Great shots!

No matter what scale you farm on, we're all in this together.

Larry

Larry,

You think we're all in this together? Local BTO is in bankruptcy protection AGAIN. Who do you think is gonna cover his unpaid bills at the banks, dealerships, fuel, seed and chem stores, etc? Maybe you're right - he blows it, we pay it...
 
Remember that 900 cow dairy over by Fennimore that had a manure spill? Said they could not afford to hire the guy to haul manure so the DNR paid to have it done, and in
the same story they were looking to expand! Can't get my head wrapped around some peoples way of thinking!
 
I will trade you leaders and throw in the whole nnalert party,except our war hero John Mc.
 
My family was involved in banking and farming where I grew up. Two in the banking and two on the farm. The two in the banking business were very scrutinizing of the two in farming with the loans at the bank. Perhaps too scrutinizing, as the two on the farm ended up being quite reluctant to expand. Those two still on the farm will likely be the 4th AND FINAL generation to make a living on the farm. I wanted to farm, but was pushed away. Insult added to injury with the write downs and the bankruptcies the BTO's went through in my hometown area on more than one occasion! It was their greed and overly aggressive expansion in running up cash rents and paying big bucks for land that brought them down at least twice in the 1980's and 1990's. I cannot help but wonder what their balance sheet looks like today. The meltdown in 2008 and hearing "too big to fail" really infuriated me as it was reminiscent of prior times in farming. I don't farm much, and I have a decent paying job to boot. I don't owe my soul to the banker and I don't have "paper" hanging all around the countryside. I may be buying my first tract of land this coming year. Been working on a deal for about 9 months. It isn't much, but it is something I can pass on to my kids and leave a bit of a legacy, without having to worry about making mortgage payments for the rest of my life and it financially crippling me.
 
(quoted from post at 08:26:04 10/04/17) Remember that 900 cow dairy over by Fennimore that had a manure spill? Said they could not afford to hire the guy to haul manure so the DNR paid to have it done, and in
the same story they were looking to expand! Can't get my head wrapped around some peoples way of thinking!

Misty Morning Dairy. Guy come over from California and was gonna show us rubes from Wisconsin how to milk cows. I went to his bankruptcy sale this spring. He went back to Cali and left the bank holding the bag. One guy I know said he asked Fullers (Jim, I think) how much money they lost there and he responded that he doesn't even want to think about it, let alone talk about it. Don't worry, us little guys will pay the bill eventually.
 
Illinois Family Farms has, maybe it's still up, a great web site, expounded on the family part of it, and how they did this or that and menus for the work crew and all. Sounded like a really nice bunch of family. They kinda bragged their sales was to sell every bushel 4 times, to make better profits. (I think that ends up meaning they speculated a lot, trying to guess right?)

Behind that, they aggressively tried to get 50,000 acres of land under their thumb in a couple years, and went broke in the middle of some of the highest crop prices we've ever had in farmin, even when expensive were still low.

Left a lot of people in the lurch.

Stamp and Boerson at least waited until the Ag downturn to implode.

When Stamp went under, Boerson came into the lcourthouse and just took over the operation, assumed the land contracts and all in mostly one big chunk.

I fear lawyers and judges like that, only one person to deal with and so even if they buy into it a little low, it's a bankruptcy who cares sell it out low to just one enterprise.

I fear this will lead to even faster consolidation of farmland into ever bigger mega farms as we see farms going to the red side of the ledger these days.

Who is going to buy out Boerson And merge with their large operation and continue on another 4 years, only to repeat again.

Paul
 
Hey now, I am in that line-up, back on top of the hill, waiting on all them slow cubs to get outta my way.
That is what they call a "parade lap" just for photo ops.
 
I was there too. I was on a Case, between the Cubs and the JDs. I think we plowed 60 acres that afternoon. Judging from my fuel consumption, a LOT of gas was burned through all those Kohlers.
 

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