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larry@stinescorner

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My friend had a lot of trouble with his driveway washing out,He did this last week.
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it leads up to his little shed /cabin
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he did the blacktop apron too,the town requires it
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Hes ghot a nice garden going too
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I Feel terrible that I was not well enough to come help him do the driveway,we have done lots of concrete jobs together over our long friendship.i wished Icould have been there helping him with his driveway.
 
Really nice. Is there a plan to put river rubble in the swale to the right looking down it? Check dams or bars across would also
work. Jim
 
Is the blacktop apron/approach required if and when you hard surface your driveway? It was not required before? It couldn't be concrete? If he had to have blacktop paving done, why not use that for the whole job?

I know of a local trucking firm which poured a concrete approach to a state highway. State DOT gave him all kinds of a hard time-"You can't do that"! But it's still there. It alleviates a mess for everyone, as the heavy, long loads are no longer scuffing up the gravel and creating a hazard.
 
He is a concrete guy,,doesn't have equipment for blacktop,,and wanted to do the job himself..The town for some reason requires a blacktop apron,,wouldn't allow him to do the apron in concrete.He did the apron of blacktop himself too,got a load of blacktop with his dump truck.Believe it or not he tamped it with a heavy old plate tamper.You might remember years ago,the stories I posted of the neat freek yard manager at the construction company where I worked,he always threw out old stuff.I would ask the boss,,and he would laugh,,and give it to me,,wondering what the heck I did with all the junk I hauled home.One of my loads was a heavy old plate tamper that didnt run anymore.I hoisted it on to my truck,,and took it to my friend and gave it to him.He got it running////and that same old plate tamper that I saved from the scrapyard tamped the blacktop apron in the picture!!
 
Larry,
In the long run, concrete is the only way to go. No sealing, if
done right, no cracks to fill in, no grass growing in gravel.
Don't need to worry about removing gravel when you remove snow.

If I have concrete to put down, I know a guy that works cheap
on his days off. He is a concrete finisher. Does a great job.
He put my drive way down 15 years ago, not the first crack. He
insists on 6 inch drives. He also put a 6 inch floor in my pole
barn, no cracks there either. He only uses forms on the edges.
Does a continuous pour. Cuts in lines a day later with a saw.
He uses wire not re-bar.
geo
 
I would bet the reason the town requires a black top apron is they can cut and repair that easier if they have to access the utilities that are buried under the apron. Concrete is much hard to cut and then repair.
 
Looks good!!! He needs to come west about 1000 miles and do mine. LOL I just about have the rocks wore out this year with the heavy rains washing the gravel down the hill. Even when we get just an inch of rain it seems to come in ten minutes.
 
Looks great from here !
Township must have rights to a certain dimension from center line of road like most do. Typically you do have to abide by their rules. JD's suggestion is likely why, just makes it a lot easier to deal with vs concrete.

The small lane that I live on, the towns specifications conflict with the postal specification in regards to having a mailbox on a post along the road. To comply, you would have to have a cantilevered mail box from a post outside of the restricted area the town's specifications that state you cannot have a post or obstruction. I think that is for snow removal. Maybe it's changed by now, but its one those rules you just cannot enforce, but likely protects the town if the plow truck clips a mailbox post.
 
Story just in local paper yesterday. Long time store in town with a blacktop parking lot and up to pavement of street must remove the blacktop where the sidewalk would be and replace with concrete, no sence there either.
 
Larry, Looks great! I'm sure he's not mad at you. I have a couple guy's I need to help with concrete and luckily they aren't in a hurry. I have a couple pic's of what we have done and the last one is a41x 56 house foundation with a 32 x 48 attached garage we just started. Get well and come up and play in the dirt with us when your better! lol
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It is a little bit about utilities, but more about future road maintenance. When the road is repaved-or in some cases regraded and rebuilt- it will lift the road several inches, which of course creates a bump. Homeowners always want that bump 'shouldered' in one way shape or form, and putting asphalt over concrete is is unacceptable to many. And you will find people who spend tremendous amounts of money on a drive with stamped, colored concrete and then totally go off the deep end when their concrete has to be cut back to accomodate a repave job. I'm supervisor in our town, and we had one guy who was ready to lay in front of the concrete saw to stop the work!!! The police had to come to get him under control!

In WI, public roads have a right of way, and the home or landowner does not own that- so the township or city can enforce what goes on there. Deal with too many guys wanting to lay down in front of the saw, and you start to see the wisdom in requiring certain things!!
 
Larry. Back in the late 60's, my Dad and I did a driveway at our house. 25 yards delivered and we hand tamped it and put a broom finish on it. All in one day.
Hurts me now to think about it.
Richard
 
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