Crabby over prescriptions

jon f mn · Jul 3, 2017

Went in to get refills today and the one
prescription I can't do without went from
$6.00/mo to $395.00/mo. That is after
insurance. I sure hope they can find an
alternative because that is definitely not
in the budget.

greenmech · Jul 3, 2017

That is robbery! Ron Mn

The Dukester · Jul 3, 2017

I'd sure get with the doctor that prescribed that medication and let him know about this.....maybe a alternate can be used. Something's really wrong....that's plain criminal to have that happen.

David Snipes · Jul 3, 2017

Don't you love unfettered capitalism. If you can stick it to the consumer, do so. I would like to see a more regulated capitalism like the Scandinavians use.

rrlund · Jul 3, 2017

The money's going to a good cause Jon. Corporate profits and shareholder dividends. It'll trickle back down to you.

Gchase24 · Jul 3, 2017

Wife went to the pharmacy to get my presciptions refilled. The pharmist told her that WITH insurance it would be $57.00. Cash it would be $23.50. Go figure. Needless to say we do not have that inshurance any longer.We switched to cash pay for doctor visits and Christian healthcare through our church.Any member of any church will be elgible.I encourage everyone to inquire about this.

jddrawbar · Jul 3, 2017

Moving is always an option......

Pete in MD · Jul 3, 2017

David,

The personal income tax rate in Sweden is 57.1 percent, repeat 57.1%. Is that what you'd like to see in this country?

mmfan55 · Jul 3, 2017

Jon : I have encountered similar with my wife's prescriptions. Had to have a talk with the insurance company. Seems they got their paperwork wrong. Same may apply to those low cost programs that are offered by drug companies. Don't know if you have insurance or not ( and none of my business, either) but questions need to be asked as to WHY !

steve_in_mo · Jul 3, 2017

You're forgetting those amazing, truly great, wonderful CEO bonuses.
We all have to pay our fair share so those guys can have vacations and
keep the current trophy wife (and the mistress) happy.

1948CaseVAI · Jul 3, 2017

(quoted from post at 12:22:50 07/03/17) Don't you love unfettered capitalism. If you can stick it to the consumer, do so. I would like to see a more regulated capitalism like the Scandinavians use.

You have missed the boat somewhere. We have not had "unfettered capitalism" (a phrase popular with social malcontents and defective persons) in decades. What jon is experiencing is the direct result of government interference and attempts at regulation. As usual, everything the gooberment touches is ruined.

Geo-TH,In · Jul 3, 2017

The $395 Rx better come with complementary Vaseline mixed with Teflon so it doesn't hurt so much when they put it to you, OUCH.

dhermesc · Jul 3, 2017

Personally I would go with the unfettered capitalism - what the US has is a version of the Scandinavian capitalism only what works for a nation of 6 or 9 million makes a mess of a nation of 350 million. The US has about 2 or 3 times the number of illegal immigrants as Sweden has total number of people.

wisbaker · Jul 3, 2017

It's a combination of the folks in DC sticking their noses into our health care and trying to make it more affordable, note when the government makes something more affordable what they're really doing is trying to make someone else pay for your stuff, not a sustainable plan as eventually they run out of sheep to fleece. The other issue is the medical complex between the Doctors and all the health care professionals that make big money because they have to be right all of the time (they're not) to insurance companies (if four layers of a bureaucracy have to handle your claim you're paying for 3 people that shouldn't be needed) to the additional costs incurred because Doctors have to cover their backsides from the lawyers by ordering additional testing to prove they acted with diligence in your treatment to the malpractice insurance they have to buy to cover them if there is even an appearance of something going wrong.

dhermesc · Jul 3, 2017

What is the one prescription?

A 8-10 years ago our son's monthly bill was over $4000 - with our insurance my share was $800 per. Really ticked me off when the external_link administration lowered the amount of flex spending to $2500 per year as a means of making health care more "affordable".

kcm.MN · Jul 3, 2017

(quoted from post at 10:40:42 07/03/17) David,

The personal income tax rate in Sweden is 57.1 percent, repeat 57.1%. Is that what you'd like to see in this country?

I'm finding different numbers, but still, taxes are CRAZY-high over there! What I found:
Finland:51.6%
Norway: 38.52%
Sweden: up to 61.4%!!

Taxes in Sweden are Progressive. Anyone making under 18,800 Krones PAYS NO TAXES! If you make more, you pay. Hmm...explain to me again why Sweden isn't the world-mecca for money??? Seems like if you stay off your butt and make some profit, you get penalized. However, those who simply squeak by, well, they're REWARDED by not having to pay taxes!

Better check on that price. Sounds like someone screwed up somewhere - maybe put you in the wrong category. Is really screwed up how it costs so much less for doctor visits and prescriptions paying cash over insurance. ....But then, how would the insurance companies get their fair share otherwise?!?!? :twisted:

RBoots · Jul 3, 2017

Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about,
but it that they only tax they pay as a
whole? Because once you set down and figure
out all the taxes we pay here in the US,
(sales, state and federal income, gas, etc)
we are probably very close to those numbers
if not more than.

Kansas4010 · Jul 3, 2017

Same thing happened to my mom. We called around and found a pharmacy that was cheaper. They said it happens from time to time. The supplier jumps the price up and some pharmacies still have the cheaper old stock. We bought it and by the time she needed it again price went down. Basically have to call around for price before you run out. That's what multiple pharmacies told us.

Greg1959 · Jul 3, 2017

1948CaseVAI- "We have not had "unfettered capitalism" (a
phrase popular with social malcontents and defective
persons) in decades."

If you think so, then please explain the 'Epipen'
fiasco....Let alone the Martin Shkreli affair..."In
September 2015, Shkreli received widespread criticism
when Turing obtained the manufacturing license for the
antiparasitic drug Daraprim and raised its price by a
factor of 56 (from US$13.5 to US$750 per pill), leading
him to be referred to as "the most hated man in America"
and "nnalert bro".

Yup, unfettered capitalism at its best.

rrlund · Jul 3, 2017

If I had a place to go back to in Sweden,I'd go. I've got a good friend there who makes the equivalent of $75,000 a year. He's an engineer for Scania Truck Corporation. Said he traded some pay for more time off. He has plenty of money left after taxes to travel the world on hunting trips and what not. Has a great standard of living.

Folks over there say "If Sweden was a bigger country,we'd rule the world....again".

rrlund · Jul 3, 2017

Throw in your insurance premiums and everything else that we pay and they don't,and they're so far ahead of us it's ridiculous.

rrlund · Jul 3, 2017

I'm telling you what,when you have to write enough big checks that end up in the pockets of people who you know don't need it,your view of the world tends to start to change a little bit. I've been waiting for "Trickle Down" to trickle down to me since the 80s. I've pretty much decided it ain't gonna happen.

rrlund · Jul 3, 2017

They have their own illegal immigrant problem. People from poorer European countries,mostly Poland and Armenia,come there and do the kind of jobs that only illegals here will do too.

johnlobb · Jul 3, 2017

Jon, my sis in law is visiting and she is an RN and she said the best prices on prescriptions are at GoodRx, typed exactly like that. Download it on your phone so you can show your pharmacy the pricing you get.

Eldon (WA) · Jul 3, 2017

(quoted from post at 14:51:40 07/03/17) I'm telling you what,when you have to write enough big checks that end up in the pockets of people who you know don't need it,your view of the world tends to start to change a little bit. I've been waiting for "Trickle Down" to trickle down to me since the 80s. I've pretty much decided it ain't gonna happen.

I guess some people wait, and others just get after it....

James Howell · Jul 3, 2017

No need to worry about <a href="http://conservativeamerica-online.com/12-western-countries-that-will-be-nnalert-republics-in-the-next-20-years-france-1-of-12/">Noway or Sweden</a>.

High taxes are only one symptom of their problems.

kcm.MN · Jul 3, 2017

When I spent that nearly-a-year in Finland (3rd and final trip), I didn't want to come back. Bought a round-trip ticket only cause it cost less than one way. At that time, living there was like living in the US, but 30 or 40 years earlier. There was low crime, violent crime was virtually non-existent, and folks cared for and respected each other.

Unfortunately, I had to return and was struck with a debilitating injury before I could return. I'm not socialist - far from it! But the people I met while there.....by far the best friends I've ever known! Don't get me wrong - there's bad people there also, but nothing like it was here. When I left that last time, it was difficult to listen to the evening news in Houston without hearing about at least one drive-by shooting! Unfortunately, TV and internet have worked miracles in bringing life there more up to today's standards, so that there's now much more crime and violence, and people are starting more to not care as much anymore.

Mike(NEOhio) · Jul 3, 2017

I had a stent put in last fall so I had to go on Brilinta for a year. First on free then it cost $314. My Part D plan has a copay of $44 so that kicked in right away. Brilinta raises blood sugar so I had to go on Victoza. The first one this year hit the $400 deductible so it was $44, too. Then I fell into that "donut hole" you hear about. Now the Victoza is $215 for two pens and Brilinta is over 100 every month.

David G · Jul 3, 2017

I find it interesting that no one in congress seems to think that the primary issue with health care is high costs.

hd6gtom · Jul 3, 2017

My premiums went up so the lazy free cheesers that refuse to WORK can have health care that I pay for. Another way the government can say "we got hundreds off welfare" Right again-at my expense.

SVcummins · Jul 3, 2017

Same exact thing happened to me went off the paient assist program went up to 700$ a month

Traditional Farmer · Jul 4, 2017

Funny they needed the USA to even continue being a country in WWII and things ain't what they used to be there anyway since the new folks have flooded the place in the last couple years.
These European 'paradises' can only operate like they do since the USA foots most of the big bills for their defense.

kcm.MN · Jul 4, 2017

Traditional Farmer -- Sorry, not sure I'm following. Which Scandinavian country(ies) are you speaking of?

rrlund · Jul 4, 2017

Sweden was like Switzerland in WWII. They were one of the very few countries in Europe that wasn't bombed. When the war was over,their factories were all intact and immediately ramped up production. They haven't looked back since. The stereotypical things you're saying might be true of most other European countries,but not of Sweden.

730virgil · Jul 4, 2017

have you ever heard about a government program that worked the way it supposed to?
when the government is involved the buddy system takes over the people that benefit the most are the ones that administer the program.

kcm.MN · Jul 4, 2017

Likewise, Finland actually sided with Germany during that time. ...But not because they wanted to! At the time, Finland had not been a free country again for very long, and Russia was eager to regain control of the small country. As Finland was SO small, and seeing as how nobody else would come to their aid against Russia, Finland had no choice but to side with Russia's enemy and ours, Germany. In the end, Finland still lost part of their land mass (Karelia), but was able to keep their overall freedom.

Sadly, due to their taking sides with Germany, Finland was later forced (by NATO and the UN) to downsize their military to below bare-minimum levels for several decades, as well as dismantling their entire air force and navy, as small as they were. When that time ended, they chose to show the world that they truly did not want to side the way they did, and kept their military very small.

Since that time, Russia has made repeated threats to try and take over control of the little country yet again, but fortunately for Finland, they now have the rest of the free world backing it.

Before Russia, Finland had been invaded by both the Vikings (like who hadn't, right?) as well as Sweden. So during WWII, Finland was really stuck between a rock and a hard place, with former invaders on either side of them.

Wasn't originally going to get into this little bit of history today, but then thought it might be even more appropriate on this day, as we are celebrating our own independence. Am actually glad it was brought up earlier.

David Snipes · Jul 4, 2017

I have considered it.

David Snipes · Jul 4, 2017

I would accept it as long as it applied to all. We would then have universal health care paid for, excellent roads and bridges, no national debt and money to invest in our future. The tax rate would probably not have to be that high.

David Snipes · Jul 4, 2017

You are half right, I am a social malcontent but I'm not defective.

fixerupper · Jul 4, 2017

Drug companies make special deals on some drugs with large pharmacies like Wal Mart or Walgreens. One drug can be cheap one day and then suddenly very high priced the next day if the drug company and pharmacy part ways on the special deal for that drug. If a drug you or I are taking suddenly goes way up in price at the pharmacy we frequent it's time to shop around for another large national pharmacy that still is making a deal with the pharmaceutical company on that particular drug. We didn't know about this till we became medicare age and sought advice from a SHIP representative on which drug plan to take. We found we might need to leave our old familiar pharmacy and find another one if a drug we are taking suddenly sky rockets in price. Marilyn is going through this scenario with an asthma inhaler she uses.

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