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Geo-TH,In · Jun 14, 2017

Years ago it would sound crazy to think tractors can drive themselves. Many think we are on the edge of a new industry.

Here is a clip about AI.
"Industries ranging from gaming to healthcare to self-driving cars have ONE BIG THING in common. They all have huge amounts of data they need to process and make sense of.

It?s called ?deep learning,? or artificial intelligence, and it?s absolutely critical for them to be competitive."

The other day I went past a field where they were bailing hay, big round bales. I thought how cool it would be to program a tractor to pick up the hay and stack it where you want it.

How long do you think it will take before that happens?
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nrowles · Jun 14, 2017

Don't they have tractors that run themselves off gps, mainly in the gigantic fields of the midwest? I thought I heard about this a few years ago.

Stephen Newell · Jun 14, 2017

Then the next thing is the AI will think your house is wasted farm land and plows though your living room.

Steve@Advance · Jun 14, 2017

It could happen now.

The technology exists, having a self guided piece of equipment operating in a contained area where there no unauthorized personnel is not that difficult.

It's just a matter of making it economically feasible.

What would cost less, a computer controlled tractor, or a minimum wage employee?

Charlie M · Jun 14, 2017

Maybe the question is which one is more reliable - the minimum wage worker or the computer.

Charlie M · Jun 14, 2017

Seems funny to discuss artificial intelligence when it seems society as a whole is getting less intelligent. Maybe this is old age talking.

Greg K · Jun 14, 2017

Was reading an article yesterday about using graphene chips instead if silicone. It is supposed to use less power and be 1000 times faster. If it actually can be made to work economically then AI could be on the horizon. It has been a dream of science for decades, but then again so have flying cars.

Bruce from Can. · Jun 14, 2017

Most farm products hardly pay out well enough to cover the cost of the stuff we farm with now. What will the cost of corn , soy , Wheat , Milk , Beef an hogs have to look like to cover the cost of buying and keeping this fancy driver-less tractors . And who is going to insure against the risk off these tractors having some guidance system control break down , and kill some one , or do property damage ?

sourgum · Jun 14, 2017

The red paint tractor company folks ran a video showing this on their big projection screen at their exhibit at the Louisville Machinery Show last February. It was a tractor equipped with Accu-Turn GPS software technology which allowed the tractor to turn at end rows without the operator's hands on the steering wheel. (Hands free turning) Some people call this automatic turning at headlands. I think this is an option offered on certain models of new red tractors and there is a video or picture of it on the red paint tractor website. Don't know how to post a link. The blue paint tractor folks displayed a driverless tractor prototype at the Farm Machinery Show - Louisville but it was not for sale to anyone.

kcm.MN · Jun 14, 2017

(quoted from post at 06:31:19 06/14/17) Seems funny to discuss artificial intelligence when it seems society as a whole is getting less intelligent. Maybe this is old age talking.

Charlie, I think you hit the nail on the head. ...Just why IS society getting less intelligent? Well, for one reason it's due to too many distractions. Everyone is learning about smart phones, and going to work in many cases is nothing like it used to be. But then many people use their smart phones to go chasing around imaginary creatures at all hours of the day and night, even going so far as to walk right out in front of traffic!

Everything being made these days is idiot-proof....or so they're trying to make it. The more we rely on technology to do our thinking for us, the less we're able to work out problems on our own.

Could write volumes on this subject, but this should be enough for a decent start here. Needless to say, I fully agree with you!

Keith Molden · Jun 14, 2017

Sitting here reading all the posts and I'm wondering about a couple things: Where are the workers going to find employment to keep their families going. This may not sound like it's our problem, but it is. Our taxes have to help them out and guess who pays the taxes. So in the long run, we're gonna pay the help whether they continue to work for us or not. #2. How's the unoccupied equipment going to listen for that bearing that doesn't sound right or the fence post in the field that wasn't there last time we were in that area. It will probably be programmed to stop so then out to the field we will have to go, a 5 minute stop will turn into a 20 minute stop and a replaced bearing will turn into possibly a repair that will cost lots more. I guess I'm just too set in my ways to even begin to think about them. Keith

FBH44 · Jun 14, 2017

Just wait. My son is into robotics, is a mechanical engr. student, and it doing s summer internship at John Deere at Waterloo.

ss55 · Jun 14, 2017

Good for your son! Will he be working in manufacturing or in product design?

tjiniowa · Jun 14, 2017

If you can't farm it yourself, then your too big. That's my opinion.

Geo-TH,In · Jun 14, 2017

Charlie,

If you research the death of the middle class, it will prove you are right. No longer a middle class. Instead there is a lower middle class and an upper middle class based on income.

Dig a little deeper and you will find those in the lower middle class have less education. Those in the upper middle class are more educated with technical skills, many are computers related, even writing apps for smart phones, repairing smart phones. A friends daughter can repair smart phones and wrote an app for one. Now the local engineering school wants to talk to her and she is only a Jr in HS. How cool is that? The younger generation is going to make us older people ask why do we shun technology?

Guess which class is growing? It isn't the technical people, isn't those with flip phones. I know some who won't consider turning a computer on. Amish like people.
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1948CaseVAI · Jun 14, 2017

There will be savings for the manufacturer in not having to provide an operator station or controls. No AC, no cab, no steering wheel - you get the idea.

As far as reliability, that is the point of not allowing the owners to repair them. Farmers who think they can repair their tractor computers but can't use a smart phone? Yep. Sure.

Geo-TH,In · Jun 14, 2017

Good point.

Geo-TH,In · Jun 14, 2017

Keith,
You make a good point, what will happen to the minimum wage people who have minimum skills?
Predictions are we will soon find out when more stores close and minimum wage retail workers are out of a job. Predictions are millions will be unemployed soon.

Jason the Red · Jun 14, 2017

If he is in the Engine Works plant, tell him to step into the room they disassemble and inspect the engines. The engine stands in there are some of my handywork.

jimg.allentown · Jun 14, 2017

I see one big problem coming up with all of this autonomous technology. LIABILITY. In capital letters!
Who is liable when one of these "self guided" machines goes haywire and causes property damage or runs down a crowd of people? The designer? The programmer? The manufacturer? The owner? Or all of them?
One big advantage that a person has is that one can THINK. A machine cannot. If a person makes a bad decision, we all know who to look at. The programming in these machines is a long way from "perfect." At some point, there will be a catastrophe.

I do not necessarily shun technology, but there are some things that should still be left to people for the foreseeable future. I do not want to share the road with driverless cars. I also do not like the idea of driverless machinery running at large in public. Sorry, but I do not think that the time has come for that.

Rick in Iowa · Jun 14, 2017

when the driverless tractor comes to wet spot how stuck will it get?

Ted in NE-OH · Jun 14, 2017

If an autonomous car makes a mistake who gets the traffic ticket ??

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