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2005 Ford 6.0 Diesel.. Are they that bad of an engine?

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Dave from central MN

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neighbors son has one for sale. I need a newer one ton. It is a 2005 with the 6.0, are they as bad as I read about? Would prefer a new dodge or Ford, but dont want a payment, every months extra goes towards mortgage principle and I dont want to reduce that. Its depressing enough just knowing what we've paid in interest in the first 10 years.
this is the truck
 
What's been done to the engine? Any chips, tuners, etc? My understanding of the situation is that those are the main causes of problems with the engines. Run bone stock and properly maintained minimizes (but does not eliminate) the risk of problems.

Why is he getting rid of it? It seems like most get rid of their 6.0 diesels because they're having problems or suspect that a high dollar repair is coming their way very soon. The ones that are happy and have no issues aren't selling.
 
It sounds like this one has been worked on. I wonder what they mean by "head gaskets sealed"? Have the heads been pulled, resurfaced and reinstalled or did they pour some stop leak into the radiator. The EGR delete is one of the improvements to make them more reliable and to me indicate that they have probably been through the "issues" these engines suffered.

List of issues with the 6.0 PS engine.

http://www.powerstrokehub.com/6.0-power-stroke-problems.html


This one appears (if the head gaskets were replaced) had the top two issues dealt with.
 
I have an '04 F250 and my son has an '06F 350 with 6.0L's. He is more of a mechanic and done a lot of research. Seems to be 2 key elements. Regular coolant changes and
regular oil changes. Apparently the original coolant contained silica which clogs things up. I have had some work done on mine but it pulls my 24 ft. gooseneck with our 2
Masseys just fine. There is a lot of info on the net about things to look for and maintenance.
 
I would say that if it has made it this long it is probably ok. They had EGR issues and I think stud issues on the heads? I know a buddy of mine had 2 of them. The first made it to about 100,000 and the second he got about 200,000 out of it.
 
If things are tight with a mortgage payment, you don't want a 6.0L. There is nothing cheap that goes wrong with them and they always go wrong.

If you don't mind dropping 3000$ into a repair now and again they can be had cheap.
 
My son has a 6.0 and we have used it pretty hard. He says they are the best deal out there because everyone is afraid of them. He loves his. That being said, he spent the $5,000 required for EGR delete and new head bolts. According to my Ford diesel expert they can be a good engine if updates are done and done right. He says the 6.4 is a much worse engine. The later 6.7s are finally getting pretty good but a local Ford dealer has replaced a couple of those too. Did he have the heads off and the head bolts replaced? Who did the work? If not done or not done right you should plan on spending $5,000 for an upgrade at some point. I would rather have a lower mile one and have the upgrades done myself. I still stick with the 7.3 diesel. I found a 2001 crew cab dually with 110,000 miles in very nice shape. I paid $17,000 for it. I took it to my expert and spent over $1,000 in neglected maintenance. I am spending another $1,500 on bigger exhaust, new exhaust tubes to the turbo, and a controller. Whatever you buy, plan on spending some money getting it into shape.
 
A lot of Ford trucks in my area, and no one wants a 6.0...you will end up putting money with it to get rid of it..
 
One of the oil passages is to close to one of the water passages. Not enough gasket in between.
 
About the 2005 F-350 and F-250 6.0 diesel. I have a 2006 6.0 diesel. Most people will tell you they are bad trucks. to me it is how you maintain it. I have towed many tractors with mine and I have towed over the high sierras loaded down going to Carson city Nevada. My first truck that is a diesel and yet I have enjoyed towing. the right engine with the tow package transmission makes a difference. I have notice some times in snow the truck is to heavy in the front due to diesel. Have to weigh down the back bed because it is to light. that is why I am against the Aluminum beds because there will be no weight in the back wheels. I just had my truck in to have injectors replaced and fuel pump replace. yes Diesel is expensive to get work on but it dose pay off. that is if you use it for tow and hauling. I average when towing about 14.5 to 14.7 miles to a gallon of fuel. Some thing to think about.
 
6.7 is an excellent engine, nothing in common with the 6.0/6.4 family and navistar lawsuits. The 6 cly version of the 6.0 used in the cab overs is a steaming pile as well. Tons of those trucks available cheap too.
 
He's already done the egr delete so you are fine there. Run archoil 9100 or rev x each oil change should get the most out of your injectors. Only other things the would be a major failure is the ficm (fuel injector control module) $550 if you sent it to swamps diesel and get the 58v upgrade. ( I done to mine and glad I did) or the high pressure oil pump. $690. Both are repairs you can do yourself with just a little knowledge and the internet. The price to fix either one would be less than a month payment on a brand new truck. The new 6.7 are awesome but if you aren't going to drive it and use it everyday it's not worth the money. I am in the process of putting injectors in mine because it has been sitting for over a year and the only reason i am going to sell it is I simply don't drive it. I half a half ton beater I drive everyday and I am getting to the point I need a full four doors. If you get to the point you don't like it or having to work on it than sell it
 

I sell parts for these everyday, without the marriage of INT & Ford venture I'd be selling a lot less in parts.
Customers who buy these trucks & maintained them from New & didn't drive them short distances ever day didn't have
ANY WHERE NEAR the issues of the Kids & People who wanted a little Power.. I have 3 large diesel shops I sell parts
to them EVERYDAY for the Customer who wants tweak this or that & end up finding the next weakest link. Once customer
of mine drag race's a 6.0 in F250 4x4 Crew cab, running on straight fuel he turns 145 mph in the 1/4 mile. Running on
N/Oxide he won't run it again until he mounts parachutes.... If It were Me I'd stay away from it unless you have a Good
Engine..
 

2X what Dhermesc said. Mine has been good for the last five years. I think that the price is about $5,000 too high.
 
I have a 2005 F550 with the 6.0 diesel. I've used it for roofing for going on 12 years and its still going strong. Had a turbo problem early that was fixed under warranty, and the fuel tank delaminated and had to be replaced. Other than that, its been good.
 
I wonder how many of the folks with very bad recomendatiins on the 6.0 are also folks that wouldn't own a ford anyway. Just curious. I have heard the at the 6.0 once fixed is a good engine, but I have no experience with them and being scared of them is why I have a v-10.
 
It doesn't sound like you are in a money blowing mood but I really think if I go back to a diesel i am going to search around for a one ton ford with a 6.0 that is bad and do put a 5.9 cummins it. I used to work with a guy that had one and I don't get too excited about trucks but that thing was awesome
 
(quoted from post at 16:58:49 05/02/17) I wonder how many of the folks with very bad recomendatiins on the 6.0 are also folks that wouldn't own a ford anyway. Just curious. I have heard the at the 6.0 once fixed is a good engine, but I have no experience with them and being scared of them is why I have a v-10.
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Well if you have 12k to throw into the engine they will be fixed right LOL! I can't understand the mentality of loyal ford people that think it is ok to have their truck in the shop half its life or throw that kind of money at it. I pulled a 14k trailer with my 04 Dodge Cummins Dually for 151,000 miles and had less than $1000 in repairs over 12 years....then sold it for $20K....which I will probably regret :cry:
 
I would think about a 6.2 gas. Went to Tunica tractor pull this past winter. Drove home with a couple friends. One had a 6.7 f250. We had filled when we left. Stopped at Boom land to get fuel. He looked at my pump and said your $ is within .20 cents of mine. (6.2) gas. He was 5000 lb heavier than me. So I don't think you will ever see a payout.He had a 6.0 before. Got tired of dropping $3000 into it . But worst of all was the ride of shame home on the trailer.
 
My boss was a 100% ford truck guy, he owned a lot of them. He was a used car dealer. He bought new ford pickups. You could not give him another 6.0 unless he could buy the Ford extended warentee, not aftermarket warrentee, but the ford warrentee. He would not let us take 1 in trade, because you could not give them away at the car auctions.
 
The trouble with the 6.0 motors cost Ford over ONE BILLION dollars in warranty claims. The later year motors that have the updated head studs and head gaskets where not too bad. The trouble is if it does go south you can easily dump $7-10K in fixing the motor.

It sounds like you do not have that type of money to spend IF it fails. I would NOT buy one unless I knew 100% that it had the updates and never had a tuner put on it after the up dates. The cylinders only have four bolts each. They struggle to hold head gaskets without being pushed. When the head gaskets go you can easily crack heads as well.

So unless your doing a lot of heavy pulling and just have to have Ford I would look for some thing other than a 6.0 Diesel. So either find a 7.3 or go gas. The newer 6.4 engines can be spendy too.
 
A newer gasser with less rust and less future repair costs will serve better.
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Yep. Keeping my 7.3 around as long as possible. But when it finally gives up the ghost or rusts in half it will be replaced by a newer gas burner. Can get a lot newer/lower mileage truck for the money and can avoid the costly repairs.
 
Family bought a new '06 f350 6.0. Around 15,000 miles, the engine was -replaced-. Has had injector issues several times since then, and just about everything else everyone has mentioned.

Somebody I know bought one used with around 80,000 miles. Had all the service records for all maintenance from the dealer. Within the first year, last I heard, over $9,000 in the engine so far.

Uncle bought a new '05, he still drives it, but it has had everything done to it as well.

Some people are lucky, others, not so much. I'm not bashing and not anti-Ford. My next pickup will most likely be Ford.

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/10/25/ford-settles-navistar-power-stroke-class-action-suit/
 

Diesel pickups were a wonderful vehicle back in the 1990's. A lot has happened simce then with th proce of fuel and enissions equipmemt added.
The tree huggers in the EPA have done thier best to make diesel's , light diesels in particular unaffordable. A few images and video's of diesel pickups rolling coal has drove the EPA types deeper into insanity .
 
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Diesel pickups were a wonderful vehicle back in the 1990's. A lot has happened simce then with th proce of fuel and enissions equipmemt added.
The tree huggers in the EPA have done thier best to make diesel's , light diesels in particular unaffordable. A few images and video's of diesel pickups rolling coal has drove the EPA types deeper into insanity .
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Yeah they don't understand how important carbon is to the environment :D
 
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