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4/10/1951 General MacArthur removed from command

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Today marks the date that President Truman ordered MacArthur removed from command of US forces in Korea.
Some folks love him, some hate him.
Whichever side you're on I think we can all agree he was one of America's great warrior generals and earned his place in history.
Mac will live another 13 years after this and will be interred tomorrow 4/11/64 in his final resting place in Norfolk, VA.
Mac
 
It happened on the anniversary of the start of the Bataan death march (1942). My grandpa served in the Philippines and seen the aftermath of the march. He would never speak of what he seen. Dad said time an army buddy stopped in at the farm and he overhead them tell of what they went thru.
 


Put me in the near zero respect group. The guy was willing to open fire on US veterans protesting for their pensions, the "Bonus Marchers". He refused to give awards to the Marine Corps and instead decorated Army groups. He was big on aggrandizing himself and ignoring the contributions of others. I never saw him as much of a hero. I think his rise was due as much to his daddy being a General as his own ability.
 
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Put me in the near zero respect group. The guy was willing to open fire on US veterans protesting for their pensions, the "Bonus Marchers". He refused to give awards to the Marine Corps and instead decorated Army groups. He was big on aggrandizing himself and ignoring the contributions of others. I never saw him as much of a hero. I think his rise was due as much to his daddy being a General as his own ability.
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He got where he got to in large part due to his mother's shameless in person promoting of him to Gen.l Pershing during WWI
 
There was a great TV special this past winter- "The battle of Chosin". He really put a lot of men in harm's way to say the least. Those guys marched to hell and back- and probably received as little acknowledgement as anyone who has fought for the USA.
 
(quoted from post at 05:12:00 04/10/17) There was a great TV special this past winter- "The battle of Chosin". He really put a lot of men in harm's way to say the least. Those guys marched to hell and back- and probably received as little acknowledgement as anyone who has fought for the USA.
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Coonie, Pick up the book "The Chosin few". gut wrenching.
 
my Dad dikd not care for his management leadership style ,ultimately blamed McArthur for the careless way his amphibious tank battalion was constantly put in dangerous positions,that guy did not mind getting men killed,, just save the equipment , he can always get more soldiers ,douglas thought the marines could berun thru meat grinders and never gavethe recognition , always biched about the navy and airplanes not doing their job to the supernatural fullest . ,,Dad Was Army , But he went in when the marines landed while douglas was safe in his dugout ,,. and yes , he heard the comnplaints from the other soldiers, ,,,.. to those that said Mc-arthur walked on water ,,. most soldiers thart served under him knew that he was literally standing on unused abandoned equipment and dead filipino and american soldiers , that he neglected to command effectively ,,.in short TRUMAN DID what Rossevelt should a done in 1937 ,,. there were far better Generals that would had utilized available equipment , resources , supplies and most of all able populance and soldiers and defended the phillipines in early 42 ,, insread of sitrrting in a cave fretting about what to do next , ,,.. History Could had been Altered ,,. perhaps millions of lives saved , with the RITE MAN in Command ,,, In difinately was not DuGOUT DOUG ! , My Dad was Vehemently opposed tome talking with military recruiters during hi school ,,. Declaring , Those stupid sumbicheswillget ya KILT ... He saw it 1st hand
 
He was egocentric like Patton. But I think MacArthur was worse. Patton had his pearl handled pistols and Mac has his pipe and aviator sunglasses. At least Patton had a sense of humor. lol
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I always thought Dangerfield's reply to Kinison summed up the failure of diplomacy in Korea.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hn9xAaKUbw


My dad always said his sons would have to go back and refight the Korean war since his generation wasn't allowed to finish it, it looks like it will be his grandsons instead.
 
I've read the comments below and disagree with most at least in part.

Those who wish to opinionate about Douglas MacArthur should first read Manchester's American Caesar, which remains the authoritarian biography of the man.

Dean
 
Bob, I believe that is an accurate statement. Most prominent figures in history were insufferable egomaniacs or psychopaths.
 
"With the help of God and a few other Marines, MacArthur returned to the Philippines".
 
"I have just returned from the front and I have never seen a finer fighting force than the US Marines" Gen. MacArthur
 
(quoted from post at 06:08:14 04/10/17) I've read the comments below and disagree with most at least in part.

Those who wish to opinionate about Douglas MacArthur should first read Manchester's American Caesar, which remains the authoritarian biography of the man.

Dean
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I have, that's where I learned most of what I know about him.
 
While I am not a big fan of Macarthur one needs to remember the worst of the "meat grinders" in the Pacific were the island attacks conducted by the US navy command - not the Southwestern Command of MacArthur. The US Army fought the main force of the Japanese Imperial Army in New Guinea and the Philippines. The Navy and Marines carried out an ?island hopping? strategy that involved amphibious assaults on islands such as Guadalcanal and Saipan. General Macarthur complained bitterly to the President that ?these frontal attacks by the Navy, as at Tarawa, are tragic and unnecessary massacres of American lives?.


General Macarthur?s Army command killed, captured, or stranded over a quarter of a million Japanese troops during the New Guinea campaign, at a cost of only 33,000 US casualties. The Navy and Marines suffered over 28,000 casualties to kill roughly 20,000 Japanese (the entire force they faced) on Iwo Jima alone.
 
Then you will know that, while MacArthur's mother encouraged, indeed drove, him to achieve at exceptional levels, she had little influence upon Pershing, etc.

Dean
 
(quoted from post at 08:51:13 04/10/17) Then you will know that, while MacArthur's mother encouraged, indeed drove, him to achieve at exceptional levels, she had little influence upon Pershing, etc.

Dean
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One of the main things that I remembered from the book was the shameless way that she promoted Douglas to Pershing. I don't recall whether or not Pershing said publicly that Douglas got moved up over others due to the mother's efforts.
 
I have the book; it's next on my reading list. As a Civil War buff I've always been interested in the fact that his father was a Medal of Honor winner in that kerfuffle, and that he and DMAII are the only father and son holders of the CMH. Douglas Jr. was nominated for CMH three times in prior conflicts, winning for his service in the Pacific Theater.
 
Read the book Ghost Mountain Boys and you will have less respect for MacCarther than you already have,my father-in-law fought in the New Guinea battles,that is what this book is about,Mac had no regard for his men and stayed safely in Australia.My FIL is still alive but no thanks to Mac.
 
<I >"And this is about as "off topic" as possible."</i>

You are right.
Interesting though how so many of these OT posts get more replies than posts about tractors.
 
I have eyed American Ceaser before but never picked it up.
But I just reserved it at the library so will start it soon.
Thanks for the reminder.
I did read Manchester's The Arms of Krupp a few years ago. It was very good. About the German arms conglomerate that armed the Nazis and others before them.
 
Despite a days warning following Pearl Harbor Mac did nothing to prepare for imminent attack on the Philliines and left his aircraft lined up and sitting ducks for near total demolition. He was not the leader he played on TV.
 
(quoted from post at 17:09:34 04/10/17) I have the book; it's next on my reading list. As a Civil War buff I've always been interested in the fact that his father was a Medal of Honor winner in that kerfuffle, and that he and DMAII are the only father and son holders of the CMH. Douglas Jr. was nominated for CMH three times in prior conflicts, winning for his service in the Pacific Theater.
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Well, before anyone gets all excited about MoH in the Civil War, lets remember that Lincoln was handing out MoH as reenlistment bonuses at one point. It wasn't always the award it is today.
 
(quoted from post at 10:59:49 04/10/17) "I have just returned from the front and I have never seen a finer fighting force than the US Marines" Gen. MacArthur
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Yet he refused to include the China Marines on Corrigedor in the awards he recommended for every other unit, stating that "The Marines have enough awards already."
 
(quoted from post at 13:09:34 04/10/17) I have the book; it's next on my reading list. As a Civil War buff I've always been interested in the fact that his father was a Medal of Honor winner in that kerfuffle, and that he and DMAII are the only father and son holders of the CMH. Douglas Jr. was nominated for CMH three times in prior conflicts, winning for his service in the Pacific Theater.
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Jerry,It's not CMH it's MOH.Gotten wrong by many!
 
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