Another scam!

Russ from MN · Mar 11, 2017

I won't link the add because someone might sucker for it, but it's another scam!

Beautiful like new 1995 JD 5400 Compact Tractor - $1500 (bemidji)

rrlund · Mar 11, 2017

Let me guess. Their email address is right out in the open so you can email them direct instead of going through CL?

Russ from MN · Mar 11, 2017

Yes, and I think it's always a woman's name and gmail. I flag them as soon as I see them, this one disappeared immediately.

Jiles · Mar 11, 2017

I saw a newly listed camper trailer on [b:43d15b4ca6]LOCAL CL[/b:43d15b4ca6]. Everything looked good except the low price.
Since I never buy or sell without direct phone conversation, I CL mailed requesting a phone number.
A short time later, they requested my personal email address so they could send better photos.
I responded back that I did not ask for photos, I asked for a phone number.
They responded back--"Please send your address for additional photos."
Why are they desperate to get my email address address?

Fordfarmer · Mar 11, 2017

Probably the same guy who's "selling" a Ford 3910 with a loader for $1500. Ads on multiple craigslists, similar, but not identical pictures and text. And yes, a gmail address with a woman's name.
Tempting to reply just to feed them as big a line of BS as they're pushing.

kcm.MN · Mar 11, 2017

(quoted from post at 08:13:27 03/11/17) I saw a newly listed camper trailer on [b:de0ebb6312]LOCAL CL[/b:de0ebb6312]. Everything looked good except the low price.
Since I never buy or sell without direct phone conversation, I CL mailed requesting a phone number.
A short time later, they requested my personal email address so they could send better photos.
I responded back that I did not ask for photos, I asked for a phone number.
They responded back--"Please send your address for additional photos."
Why are they desperate to get my email address address?

BINGO!! They sell this information.

Jiles · Mar 11, 2017

I might add that last night, I saw a motorhome listed on CL in a nearby town.
All looked legit, but description stated [b:85137f0971]"Price will not be discussed by phone conversation or through email" ? ? ?[/b:85137f0971]

Mark - IN. · Mar 11, 2017

Maybe a misprint where someone forgot to add a "0" or mistakenly left one off? I remember having people come over to look at my rental house when I lived in Illinois, except that my house wasn't for rent because I lived in it. The paper printed my address of 210 instead of the correct address of 201 and it took them a couple of days to verify and fix it. Accidents can and sometimes do happen. That's why they're replacing burger flippers with robots...less accidents and cheaper. Grin.

Mark

Fordfarmer · Mar 11, 2017

I wondered about that, too...until I saw the same tractor in similarly worded ads on several different craigslists. I can see making a mistake like that...but three or four times?

paul · Mar 11, 2017

Those ads are rampant, thry flood out at the same time every night, thry get reported and get deleted fairly soon off the internet.

Same song and dance over and over.

Most have flowery extra characters in them, and they direct you to a gmail or yahoo email address in the ad, not through the CL contact areas.

If you look at the right time of day you will see dozens of turn up for a while.....

Kinda makes you sad for what we humans really are; given a chance it seems we really are designed to be rotten cheats through and through.

Paul

kcm.MN · Mar 11, 2017

Another type of scam is one commonly used by hackers. Someone may come to a web forum and post free online sports events. If you click on the link, there may or may not be the event, but you will always be connecting to their servers, which means they have "some" amount of access into your PC. By you going to their website, you give them the ability to access your computer. It's not legal, but it also isn't strictly enforced as being illegal.

BarnyardEngineering · Mar 11, 2017

Yeah, nothing new. These scams have been on craigslist for a long time now. They're so rampant I just can't see how they can possibly be effective anymore.

I mean, how much do you get for an email address? A few cents? Seems like an awful lot of work to go through to get an email address. You'd have to do it millions of times to find thousands of people dumb enough to fall for it to make it worthwhile. Sure that can be programmed in but the programming and equipment cost money too.

JOCCO · Mar 11, 2017

I would think the website (this one, CL and so on) Would come up with some tighter security and shut this crap down. Like a small fee, an account where they must be verified. CL still needs to clean up its act.

markct · Mar 11, 2017

I often suspected that these scams would go something like this, you contact them, they say they have many interested but if you wire them a deposit or full payment etc they will hold it for you, and of course then disappear

Ray · Mar 11, 2017

You can see 50 a day on craigslist,have for years.

kcm.MN · Mar 11, 2017

Russ, looks like you missed out! Tractor is gone - at least I can't find it now. Sure wish I had the money for that MFWD Oliver though!! But that's a lot more tractor than I'm ever likely to need.

Jiles · Mar 11, 2017

On CL, if you are interested in an item, place posting in your Bookmarks.
That way when you click on it again, through bookmark, you will be told if it was deleted by author, or removed (meaning flagged).

BarnyardEngineering · Mar 11, 2017

(quoted from post at 14:50:38 03/11/17) I would think the website (this one, CL and so on) Would come up with some tighter security and shut this crap down. Like a small fee, an account where they must be verified. CL still needs to clean up its act.

They do charge a fee for dealers. All that has done is caused the dealers to simply "cheat" and post in the owner category to skip the fee.

If they charged a fee to regular users, CL would die instantly, but you'd have your wish, no more spam or scams.

BarnyardEngineering · Mar 11, 2017

BTW, CL is on to these types of ads. They seem to require very low numbers of flags to get removed, because I rarely see an ad still up a few hours after I've flagged it.

If you notice one of these ads and don't flag it, you are part of the problem. Craigslist is community moderated. Every flag is a vote to remove an ad. Enough votes, and the ad is removed.

ldj · Mar 11, 2017

(quoted from post at 10:53:44 03/11/17) I might add that last night, I saw a motorhome listed on CL in a nearby town.
All looked legit, but description stated [b:21c78fcd00]"Price will not be discussed by phone conversation or through email" ? ? ?[/b:21c78fcd00]

That probably isn't a scam. I have thought about putting something like that in my listings. Some folks just like to negotiate a price then never come and look. I tell folks when they call and ask for a lower price that I will negotiate but you will have to come see it first.
One other thing, I never call about an item that doesn't have a price listed. Used to when I did the price was always too high. The person with the ad knows what he will take and sooner or later he has to tell you. Why not give it upfront?

wolfman · Mar 11, 2017

They must sell the collected e-mail addresses. Give them your e-mail address and a few days later you will have 60 items in your inbox from soup to insurance and everything in between.

Aaron Ford · Mar 11, 2017

I like the ones where the item is supposed to be in Green Bay, WI but the pics were taken in Florida (or wherever palm trees and Bermuda grass grow).

Aaron

495man · Mar 12, 2017

(quoted from post at 08:53:44 03/11/17) I might add that last night, I saw a motorhome listed on CL in a nearby town.
All looked legit, but description stated [b:a4715bf23d]"Price will not be discussed by phone conversation or through email" ? ? ?[/b:a4715bf23d]

Cuts out the the time wasters who want you to drop the price by 1/2 and have no intention of coming to see it or buy it even after you accept an offer, or you accept their offer and then they come and want to haggle more.

K Effective · Mar 12, 2017

People today just do thing differently than we do- my son is looking to replace his motorcycle. He has contacted a CL seller nearby and haggled price with him before ever seeing the bike. "You are asking $6K, I have $5K cash on Saturday." I cautioned that I would not make an offer without seeing it. "Well, I think I would see in the pictures if it had been scratched or whatever". Okay, your money, your lesson.

So he finally asks the guy, if it had been wrecked or dropped. "Oh, back when it was one year old, it got dropped in a parking lot (always) and I replaced all the plastic with factory new." Well, did insurance pay for it? "Yes". So, clean title or salvage title? "Well, salvage, but just because it was so much...". Right.

Lesson taught, and we didn't have to drive an hour to learn it.

travis miranowski · Mar 12, 2017

On CL is the person selling is not asking retail plus 10% then it is probably a scam!! Just my observation

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