Loader/Bucket Question

I have a 1965 John Deere 2010 gas with an all hydro Schwartz loader. It has the manure bucket that "nests" under the larger dirt bucket. I'm not sure of the model of the loader, but could find out.

Here are my questions:

I would like to buy a skeleton bucket or rock bucket for this tractor. I have a lot of rock on my hunting property, most of it about softball size to maybe twice that large. I have rented a skid steer with rock bucket in the past and it works great, but the rental is expensive.

1. Is this a super bad idea because it would over-strain the tractor? The tractor is in good mechanical condition, fulid filled rears, all gears work well, doesn't burn any oil, and has good power.

Obviously, power is limited compared to diesel, but I only need to "sift" the top 3-4 inches of soil after it has been disked. Most large rock has already been removed from the plots. Because of the nature of the rock bucket, you only do this work when it's dry so there is no pushing of heavy soil as if trying to load a dirt bucket.

2. What do I call the mounting setup on this tractor when talking to dealers about a bucket? Is this a standard Deere mounting setup? Or did Schwartz have their own?

3. Is there such a thing as a universal adaptor so that I could use a rock bucket designed for a skid steer with a universal mount? These seem far and away the most common type of rock bucket and easiest to get. Cost is also reasonable, I can get a good 8 footer for $800.

Many thanks.

Grouse

I don't think there's anything "standard" about your Schwartz loader (or, for that matter a DEERE loader of that vintage).

In my area there's lots of welding/fab shops that could fit one of their setups to your loader or build one from scratch to fit.

Gonna GUESS it'll take some serious $$$$, but should be no issue if that's what you want/need.

I recently bought a track loader, and then a rock bucket, just for rock picking. I was surprised to find many rock bucket manufacturers. I don't know if one is made to fit your loader. But, as Bob says, certainly someone somewhere would make one fit.

Maybe your soil is different. Here, you wouldn't "sift" the ground. You pluck the stone from near the surface, and hopefully leave everything else. Any moisture and/or organic matter tends to complicate the procedure.

An 8' bucket is a lot for that tractor/loader. But assuming you wouldn't be trying to fill it, it should work.

I have , on my tractors the "Frey style "quick Plate. So the quick plate mounts
to the front of the loader and stays on the loader. Then I just change from
bucket , bale spear ,stone fork , bale grapel ,pallet fork, and all I do to
change is pull out two pins . Take off the bucket , click on the bale spear ,
and replace the pins. Both of my loaders have the same 'Plate" so I can change
either tractor to whatever attachment I need in just minutes. There are many
newer style Quick plates , with different means of attachment ,but I went with
this style as it was common in my area 20 years ago , and lots of used
attachment show up on sales that match.

Here is a pretty standard quick tach plate. There are several others if you follow this link or just google quick tach plate. Other than being harder to use due to poorer vision, you loader should work ok for that. Be careful how fast you go tho because they are not as tough as a skidloader so if you hit something solid you are more likely to do damage.
Quick tach plate

Probably the simplest method would be to go with whatever's most common in the way of skidsteer attachments around your area and plan from there. A friend just adapted his older Ford to whatever Kubota uses for their quick-attach and paid about $200 for adapter plates for his existing bucket, which is still far cheaper than a new bucket. On the other hand, if you DO manage to determine that there's a standard Schwartz pattern, it gives you a chance to work "I see your Schwartz is as big as mine" into the conversation in your best Dark Helmet voice!

(quoted from post at 09:25:42 03/04/17) Probably the simplest method would be to go with whatever's most common in the way of skidsteer attachments around your area and plan from there. A friend just adapted his older Ford to whatever Kubota uses for their quick-attach and paid about $200 for adapter plates for his existing bucket, which is still far cheaper than a new bucket. On the other hand, if you DO manage to determine that there's a standard Schwartz pattern, it gives you a chance to work "I see your Schwartz is as big as mine" into the conversation in your best Dark Helmet voice!

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This is kind of what I was hoping to accomplish, so interesting to know others have done it.

But now that I think about it, the easiest fabrication route may be to have a rock bucket made or adapted for the Schwartz loader setup and be done with it.

The quick attach route would be better if I had more attachment needs, but I'm not farming. I can't see any attachment needs beyond the buckt and rock bucket.

Grouse