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Russ from MN
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- Bemidji MN
That has always been WM's plan, to squeeze out the little guy!
Adirondack case guy
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Why is everyone in town shopping at WM and not at the other stores. Here in central NY, we have Price Chopper grocery stores which are more popular than WM super centers, and to our west Wegmans compete very well with WM.
Loren
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Gary Mitchell
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Neither my wife nor I have cast a shadow on the entrance to America's great "Chinese Five & Dime" in years and don't expect to. We find supporting our home town friends and neighbors worth a buck or two. gm
We don't even have a WalMart. There used to be two grocery stores here in town,a Spartan and an IGA. We've been down to one new one on the edge of town for a lot of years by now. Not a big chain,but they have a few other small town locations around here. People's buying habits change. We're guilty of it ourselves. The wife is in there almost every day getting some little thing,but about once a month,we drive ten miles to Meijer and get several hundred dollars worth of groceries.
BushogPapa
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Same thing happened to Delaware, Oh10...
Krogers stepped up with a "SUPER KROGERS" grocery outside of town..there were 2 groceries "Down-Town".
Not satisfied with that, Krogers built another grocery West of town and to the East just outside the city limits is one of their Main Distribution Centers..
Now, there are NO Groceries down town and a total of three went out of business..
THEN, WALL-MART built a store near the Krogers to the South....guess what "Down Town" looks like now...mostly antique shops and the Down Town folks have to buy what they can get from the local Gas Stations..( they have no transportation and most are Old).
Don't bet on it. When Walmart put in the super center in Fergus Falls MN the 2 good sized grocery stores in town said they wouldn't last a year. They repeatedly made that claim trying to stop the expansion of the Wal Mart to a super center. That was close to 10 years ago. Fergus which hasn't really grown has sense added ANOTHER grocery store! Both the old ones are still open. Imagine that! Same exact thing happened in Alexandria MN when they built a super center there. The 2 old ones are still there plus they too have added another grocery store. In other words don't believe the hype!
Rick
Crazy Horse
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Great comment but even when doing that, we all have to remember that most of the products you buy (except for groceries and some other stuff) comes from offshore manufacturing. Really, a guy doesn't have much choice when you go shopping.
Tom in TN
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I guess there are a lot of factors that determine the impact of Walmart on a community. I live near Spring Hill, TN a town with a population of a bit over 30,000 souls. We have a Super Walmart, but we also have:
1. Kroger
2. Publix
3. Food Lion
4. Super Target
5. Aldi's
Each of them has a certain clientele that prefers a certain store's employees, store size and layout, variety, prices, location, etc.
Personally, I like the Food Lion. I couldn't care less about the groceries at Walmart.
Tom in TN
1. Kroger
2. Publix
3. Food Lion
4. Super Target
5. Aldi's
Each of them has a certain clientele that prefers a certain store's employees, store size and layout, variety, prices, location, etc.
Personally, I like the Food Lion. I couldn't care less about the groceries at Walmart.
Tom in TN
Stephen Newell
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And when the day comes they aren't making as much profit as they think they should they will be gone overnight.
Kansas4010
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I've never understood all the negatives about Walmart. They are no different than any other company given the chance. Local little thriftway store in this town price gouges every chance he gets. He's even told people if you don't like his prices drive 30 miles to the next store. Several older people in town who couldn't drive that far were forced to pay those prices until recently. They brought in a Dollar General and the local store started screaming about how it would ruin the small town charm. Dollar General hasn't even been open a year yet and the Thrift way has already lost enough business they're complaining they might have to close. I say good ridence.
A lot depends on if your town is a county or regional shopping destination. Walmart is pretty shrewd about picking towns with growth potential. The names of the stores in your town will likely change. Mom and Pop single stores have very tough times competing with Walmart. Chain stores like CashWise, Super Target, HyVee, Fairway and Aldi's do well competing head to head with Walmart and will move into towns that already have a Super Walmart. Menard's, Home Depot and fast food will also build close to a Super Walmart to cash in on the extra traffic.
Fairway and Aldi's use small stores where you can get in and out with a cart load of groceries in under 15 minutes. Some older folks don't like big stores because they get worn out searching up and down all those long aisles while pushing a cart.
Fairway and Aldi's use small stores where you can get in and out with a cart load of groceries in under 15 minutes. Some older folks don't like big stores because they get worn out searching up and down all those long aisles while pushing a cart.
Traditional Farmer
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Must be the area with 15 miles of my farm there are at least 25 different grocery stores.A Sams and a Costco.7 Food Lion,2 Walmarts,2 Kroger,bunch of independent stores and others.
Russ from MN
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- Bemidji MN
But it doesn't seem to work with small farmers, they just get a job in town to support their farming habit and keep producing at a loss! When your new leader gets done screwing up your foreign trade beans will be down to $5!
My town of 10,000 is down to 2 grocery stores and one is Wal-mart....We shop at both....Not that many years ago we had 4 stores...Its 20 miles in any direction to the next grocery store..The town to the east is 3600 and has no Wal-mart...Not that many years ago they had 3 stores but now just have 1..
dr sportster
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That is the Walmart business model. Gut out main street and get all the fast foods into the area as well.
Wheres Waldo
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Fareway also has the best meat department, IMO. Fareway just built another store in Huxley, Iow, which gives us 3 of them in 20 miles. Their prices are less than Hy-Vee and Fareway still takes the groceries out to your vehicle. No tipping as some Eastern U.S. stores require.
Texasmark1
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Nearest town of about 1500 had a WW small grocery store move in. They had a couple of dollar stores and a mom and pop grocery.
WW Lasted about 6 months and closed their doors....news said WW tried the small store in the small town thing, apparently to crowd out the dollar stores and after about 6 months when it didn't fit their business profit model they closed about 250. All 3 of the others stores mentioned survived the invasion. Now a mom and pop chain moved in the vacated WW store. Chain has regular super markets in the area and is a good place to shop as is the small store. We'll see what happens.
Two towns up the road the about the same sized town had the same deal. That grocery closed. WW pulled out at the same time there too and those folks were up the creek. Looks like the mom and pop chain saved the day for them.
WW Lasted about 6 months and closed their doors....news said WW tried the small store in the small town thing, apparently to crowd out the dollar stores and after about 6 months when it didn't fit their business profit model they closed about 250. All 3 of the others stores mentioned survived the invasion. Now a mom and pop chain moved in the vacated WW store. Chain has regular super markets in the area and is a good place to shop as is the small store. We'll see what happens.
Two towns up the road the about the same sized town had the same deal. That grocery closed. WW pulled out at the same time there too and those folks were up the creek. Looks like the mom and pop chain saved the day for them.
560Dennis
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They lower prices to be lower than the completion so they drive them out. Then guess what they raise them cause there isn't any completion . They do fo this over and over again because they can ,when they get completion out watch out.
Also they demand all there suppliers to sell to them for less than any one else or they will not stock there shelves.
You wnat know why all the jobs went to China 👀Look at them as a huge cause of that.
Also they demand all there suppliers to sell to them for less than any one else or they will not stock there shelves.
You wnat know why all the jobs went to China 👀Look at them as a huge cause of that.
pat sublett
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I saw Walmart build in a little town in SE Texas that had 3 or 4 little grocery stores. It ran them all out of business. About a year later it shut down, left the employees without a job and no grocery stores. only a couple of quick stops left.
Walmart came to town so,e years ago, Kmart couldn't leave fast enough but Kmart was already a troubled company.
Target left 2 years ago, but they too are a troubled company and refocused themselves on a higher end market than our down home farm and shift work town.
Two dollar store, a Menards, and just a few months ago an Aldes grocery moved in to town. I'm very puzzled by the location of the Aldes but I wish them well....
Meanwhile, the Walmart is one of the few that isn't open 24 hours a day. Their grocery store isn't all that popular, obviously the merchandise side is about the only thing left in town.
Menards they were rumor ing it was too slow and going to close. Well they closed one small order hut, but are now expanding and rebuilding the store even bigger.
We haD 2 grocery stores one on each end of town for decades, both are open 24-7 since I was in high school. Both appear to be doing well against Walmart.
We have 2 local small town lumber yards, both of them are still open after several years of the Menards in town.
Wife, and many others, do miss the tArget store. Their clothes and gal sections were better laid out than Walmart has from what I am told.
Menards is putting in a bigger grocery section, so I probably won't see much other than the Menards and Runnings (fleet and farm store) in town......
When I was a kid, can't barely remember, there were 7 grocery stores in town I guess, a couple were still the counter with much of the stuff on the big tall shelf behind the clerk (likely the owner actually) and they supplied the town with those small hoise sized corner stores. One still exists as a novelty shop.
Paul
Target left 2 years ago, but they too are a troubled company and refocused themselves on a higher end market than our down home farm and shift work town.
Two dollar store, a Menards, and just a few months ago an Aldes grocery moved in to town. I'm very puzzled by the location of the Aldes but I wish them well....
Meanwhile, the Walmart is one of the few that isn't open 24 hours a day. Their grocery store isn't all that popular, obviously the merchandise side is about the only thing left in town.
Menards they were rumor ing it was too slow and going to close. Well they closed one small order hut, but are now expanding and rebuilding the store even bigger.
We haD 2 grocery stores one on each end of town for decades, both are open 24-7 since I was in high school. Both appear to be doing well against Walmart.
We have 2 local small town lumber yards, both of them are still open after several years of the Menards in town.
Wife, and many others, do miss the tArget store. Their clothes and gal sections were better laid out than Walmart has from what I am told.
Menards is putting in a bigger grocery section, so I probably won't see much other than the Menards and Runnings (fleet and farm store) in town......
When I was a kid, can't barely remember, there were 7 grocery stores in town I guess, a couple were still the counter with much of the stuff on the big tall shelf behind the clerk (likely the owner actually) and they supplied the town with those small hoise sized corner stores. One still exists as a novelty shop.
Paul
I never got the whole Walmart hate thing. Go back a few decades and you'd hear the same hate and discontent aimed at Sears, Wards, Western Auto. "Oh, Bobs dry goods and Jims hardware won't be able to compete!!!" Well, now Amazon and other online co's are threatening Walmart. It's change, and with change comes different business models. Malls are on their way out, just like shopping plazas were 40 years back when malls hit the scene. Walmart will eventually be eclipsed by another entity...probably selling the same stuff, just like Walmart pushed Sears or your Mom and Pop grocery out.
BarnyardEngineering
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If by "Sam's" you mean Sam's Club. That *IS* Walmart.
I think Bret's post below is spot on. Wal-Mart tries to push that they have lower prices, etc, etc, and many succumb to this thinking. I only buy from Wal-Mart when an item is significantly lower in price, or (the most important) if the item is not available at any other store. And, I never buy meat from Wal-Mart. Even then, my wife and I tend to buy more and more from on-line retailers, as I am finding that Wal-Mart often cannot compete with some of those. I guess I look at it differently, if you cannot compete, time to pack and go. Not saying that I do not have sympathy for those small retailers, but many that actually adapted and try, find ways to compete, or offer a service that those big retailers cannot. Those that fold, simply do not try to adapt or compete. Auto parts giants are doing the same.....I was in the market yesterday for a fuel filter.....guess what - Wal Mart apparently quit offering fuel filters, O-Reilly's price approx. $23 (not including tax)!!. Online price with free shipping, and no sales tax - under $14 (and it was not Rock Auto). Guess who got that business? Sorry if I got off topic a bit, but it is getting to the point that Wal-mart and many of those big retailers are NOT the low price as they try to make us believe, and you have to shop these days.
If they were good grocery stores Walmart grocery would not hurt them. Is there an underling reason they are closing. Poor stores or aging of owners? 2 groceries in my town besides Walmart, about 9000 people. I do shop at Walmart for some things but not groceries. And I can drive twice the distance to get to the local groceries and do a lot better. Walmart is usually high priced on groceries.
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