Kickinbull
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What would be recommended hp requirement for 8 row AC planter?I have White 2-70 and Oliver 1650. Will they work?
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hydro70guy
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We used to pull an IH cyclo 400 8rn with 70 hp IH hydro 70. It worked well till I decided I liked a cab to get out of the dust.
In tilled ground? Fertilizer or not? I've got a 333 No Til Special,four row with dry fertilizer. I've got the no til coulters off of it and plant in either plowed or chisel plowed ground with it. It's about all my 1550 wants and then some. I used the 1850 on it for years. I use the 2-105 on it now. I don't know that I'd try either of yours without at least having spacer duals on it. Your hydraulics might be a little weak with just the stock belly pump.
Kickinbull
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It's a 600 series no til.
Kickinbull
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No til planting without fertilizer.
Eric in IL
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This is a 12 row no-till with 400 gallons liquid fertilizer. The tractor is 85 p.t.o. horsepower fwa. I need 10 more ponies when I switch to bean planting, but then I'm pulling 13 rows. No ballast in my tires, but a few weights on the front of the tractor.
I think your set-up will work fine.
I think your set-up will work fine.
Brown Swiss
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I am not sure on the 600 series but if you had a 333 Allis I would not recommend it, second of all they are not that great of a no till planter. I had a 4 row 333 and used the 2020 JD on it when I first got it, it was like having a city slicker doing work, very reluctant to do it.
Think you say notill and no fertilizer below.
In those conditions it should work, you might not set any speed records but that can be a good thing...... If you are pushing all spring to get planted you might want to move up on tractors; if this is a nice big planter and you don't have to work hard to get your acres planted it will work great.
I would check out the hydraulic needs carefully tho. Older tractors tend to have lower output hyd pumps. That is what 'gotcha' for me with a smaller planter and some well suited gas tractors - they were perfect for pulling it, but they couldn't lift it. None of the three 40-50 hp gas tractors would lift the planter, so I ended up choosing between a 27 and 80hp newer models that lifted it easy, one a tad small and one way too big for 4 row......
Paul
In those conditions it should work, you might not set any speed records but that can be a good thing...... If you are pushing all spring to get planted you might want to move up on tractors; if this is a nice big planter and you don't have to work hard to get your acres planted it will work great.
I would check out the hydraulic needs carefully tho. Older tractors tend to have lower output hyd pumps. That is what 'gotcha' for me with a smaller planter and some well suited gas tractors - they were perfect for pulling it, but they couldn't lift it. None of the three 40-50 hp gas tractors would lift the planter, so I ended up choosing between a 27 and 80hp newer models that lifted it easy, one a tad small and one way too big for 4 row......
Paul
Interesting comments about size of tractors to pull a planter. When I was a kid , my Dad pulled a JD 490 planter with a Ford 8n tractor. It had runner openers and was used in tilled ground. Some small insecticide boxes were the only attachments. Had a rope and mechanical lift to raise and lower the planter. He had a bucket wired to a fender with an assortment of plates for different size seed and carried several extra bags of seed laid across the hood. The tractor seemed to handle the planter without much strain. I can still remember the sound of the hill drop valves clicking open and shut going across the field. A nice memory from 60 years ago.
It would depend on how steep the ground is your going to be planting on. I think you said notill without fertilizer. So the planter will pull easier than one would in worked ground. If your in flat ground the tractors you talk about would do it fine. If your in steep ground I think you will run out of traction with these tractors.
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