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big tee · Dec 20, 2016

They were talking Volvo semi tractor on Ag Talk and somebody posted this, I might need help interpreting this------Tee

GreenEnvy · Dec 20, 2016

I agree with the freightliner one.

blue water massey · Dec 20, 2016

jon might have something to add

Bob Bancroft · Dec 20, 2016

These things are interesting. Around here, an owner operator doesn't count if he doesn't have a Peterbilt.

On interstate 81 at Thanksgiving, I'd say fully half the trucks were Freightliner. Not one broken down along the road! Granted, they are quite new fleet trucks.

matthies · Dec 20, 2016

The IH one should have two guys with one BENT over and the other pouring the coal to the bent over one.

Old Scovy · Dec 20, 2016

. I always liked the idea of being in the Teamsters Union and driving a Mack and getting paid for it. One time when work was slow at Chemical Leamon I made a trip from Albany NY to Port Arthur and for sure I didn't get paid a cent for the trip But I was driving a Pete wow what a big deal ,Thank god the old thing held together until I got back to Albany. That Mack never looked so good. LOL

Old Scovy · Dec 20, 2016

. I took this trip for a friend that was a share cropper, An owner operator. He was sick and needed some time off but the payments still went on just the same. That old Pete finally ate him up and he went to work for the company and retired in good shape. But at least he had a Pete until it got the best of him.

Kent Petersen · Dec 20, 2016

The only thing that you are bying is the name on any of them most are the same eaton rears road ranger trans and cummins, cat or Detroit and mack can not get cat no more thanks EPA.Cab is the difference

Adirondack case guy · Dec 20, 2016

You are totally out of touch!! Peterbuilt and Freightliner are now Pacar, and build their own engins and componets, Mack is not Mack anymore,other than the bulldog, and CAT got out of the over-road engine business.
Loren

big tee · Dec 20, 2016

With all the comments and the way the girls flock around bottom trucker it is a no brainer---I am going to get a new peter built-------Tee---NEVER Volvo.....

jimg.allentown · Dec 20, 2016

You all can have your Petes. Every one that I drove rode rough, cab was cramped, lousy steering, and overall too many gauges of which half didn't even work. What a piece of junk the most were.
Volvos had the best ride and handling. I don't like foreign, but I can't take that away from a Volvo.
Freightliner is the best hearing aid salesman on Earth! That are plain NOISY!
Internationals are just plain cheap. Cheaply made but quieter than a FreightShaker.
Last but not least comes Mack. I can't think of a thing that I liked about a Mack. Lousy ride, no range to the steering, cramped cab, and gutless. I can assure you that the bulldog on the hood of a Mack is definitely female. There are no balls anywhere under that dog.

fixerupper · Dec 20, 2016

My son sent this to me today. He has a Freightliner. I texted back asking if he had a Pete on his Santa list. He said no, he has enough trouble handling the women he already has, a wife and two teen aged girls. LOL

ditchwitch · Dec 20, 2016

That was so funny LOL. Poor Volvo drivers must be a little lite in the loafers lol

mattwillson · Dec 20, 2016

Peterbilt and Kenworth are PACCAR. Freightliner bought Western Star and Sterling(which was FORD).....Freightliner sucks . Navistar(International) makes a really poor excuse for a truck....always has. Mack and Volvo merged ... not the greatest, but can be made to be reliable.
Anything manufactured after the mid 1990's is just plain junk in my eyes....cheaned out chit. This eurostyling plastic crap is pathetic.

showcrop · Dec 20, 2016

(quoted from post at 16:28:58 12/20/16) You are totally out of touch!! Peterbuilt and Freightliner are now Pacar, and build their own engins and componets, Mack is not Mack anymore,other than the bulldog, and CAT got out of the over-road engine business.
Loren

Who is out to lunch? Paccar is made up of Pete, KW and DAF. Freight Shaker along with Western Star is part of Daimler. Mack is owned by Fiat.

Destroked 450 · Dec 20, 2016

(quoted from post at 16:28:58 12/20/16) You are totally out of touch!! Peterbuilt and Freightliner are now Pacar, and build their own engins and componets, Mack is not Mack anymore,other than the bulldog, and CAT got out of the over-road engine business.
Loren

I know Paccar has owned Peterbilt and Kenworth for years.
When did Daimler sell Freightliner to Paccar, their not saying anything about it on ether ones site.
I sold my last Pete in 05 and retired from driving in 08 so when did they start putting Paccars engine in Peterbilts, their site says you can still get a Cummins engine also.
Paccar says they've been building engines for fifty years but I'd never seen one in my thirty years of driving.
Cat quite selling on road engines to other truck mfg's and started building their own trucks, don't know how well their selling.
Mack still sells trucks with their engines and drive line but could be gotten with other brands of drive lines last I knew of.

showcrop · Dec 20, 2016

(quoted from post at 16:53:11 12/20/16) You all can have your Petes. Every one that I drove rode rough, cab was cramped, lousy steering, and overall too many gauges of which half didn't even work. What a piece of junk the most were.
Volvos had the best ride and handling. I don't like foreign, but I can't take that away from a Volvo.
Freightliner is the best hearing aid salesman on Earth! That are plain NOISY!
Internationals are just plain cheap. Cheaply made but quieter than a FreightShaker.
Last but not least comes Mack. I can't think of a thing that I liked about a Mack. Lousy ride, no range to the steering, cramped cab, and gutless. I can assure you that the bulldog on the hood of a Mack is definitely female. There are no balls anywhere under that dog.

I had an International and loved everything about it. Cab was quiet compared to others of 2003, and it stayed that way. It was far more trouble free than the newer Volvo that the company that I pulled for had. The Cab was a lot roomier than the Petes of the time. I drove one of the newer bigger Petes halfway across the country a few years ago. It had a lot of room but it had some problems and squeaks. I drive a 2005 Mack occasionally now. It is noisy compared to the company's newer one. It is a short wheel based Granite and turns plenty sharp enough. 550 HP is usually enough to get the job done even at 75,000 lbs, and the cab is bigger than those 379 or whatever Petes that the girls love. Another good thing about anything other than a Petercar is that you can keep the seat in it instead of sitting on the floor.

fixerupper · Dec 20, 2016

I don't know about the new ones but Pete's used to be lighter so more dollars worth of cargo could be hauled. Internationals were heavy.

bradley martin · Dec 20, 2016

Mack is wholly owned by Volvo, not Fiat.

jon f mn · Dec 20, 2016

Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever! I will say the pete one is the most acurate tho as I've both driven a pete and been to places where girls dance around a pole and the experiences were very similar. For both the expectation exceded the experience.

Frank 41 · Dec 20, 2016

As of December 13 Wikipedia claims that Daimler AG owns some or majority of Freightliner and Western Star. Also Thomas buses are a subsidiary of Freightliner. Paccar is number 2 producer behind Daimler AG. In 2011 Paccar spent $.76 mil to avoid taxes from 2008 to 2010 while gatting $112 mil in tax rebates and still made $465 mil profit.

Wikipedia is straight up, so take it for what it is worth guys.

My old 1993 379 is getting like a little kid. Every time I take it to town, I have to but it something, as a friend used to say.

caterpillar guy · Dec 20, 2016

Well I have owned a volvo ,pete and a dog and that was just what the dog was a dog. The volvo had to have a prop to hold the dash up and the 2 pete's Ive owned were great trucks with cats under the hood. The last one I bought,I bought new and has over a 1,140,000 on it. Has been a good truck. I still drive it. Both have eaton axles and trans,holland fifth wheels and cat engines. The 377 has a 350 the 379 has a 550.

ericlb · Dec 20, 2016

i dont know, ive owned 2 older kw's [ 1 was a 79 the other was a 87] and both were good trucks, reliability is dependent on how the thing is taken care of, the only time one left me walking was when i twisted the driveshaft out of it, pulling a 13 % grade from a dead stop, with a full leagle load, halfway up, the rear u-joint on the front shaft had had enough, when i went to driving for other people i was assigned 3 different petes,as time went on, 1 new at the time, and 2 older tractors, the new one was always in the shop with some computer issue, the older ones never missed a beat,i enjoyed the old ones much more, the only truck i considered to have a rough ride was a heavy haul western star, but that one had a front axle rated for 20,000 lbs with super singles, and rears rated for 70,000 on 14;00 24's . it had springs but just for looks lol, just the front axle spring packs were more then a foot thick . liked the truck anyway, the front bumper was waist high, it was road leagle width wise' depending on where you measured the truck,if you measired the bumper it was ok, if you used the wide part of the tires it was 8'10 inches .started out with a r model mack with 2 sticks, rough yes, but these were trucks, not cars, and it was 20 years old when i got put in it , it was still running when i bought my first kenworth , and put it to work for the same company that owned the mack

GarryinNC · Dec 20, 2016

If it worked out like the chart, having just a Mack wouldn't be too bad! I grew up around LJ Macks and I-H Emeryville DCO-405s. My dad reworked around 30 LJs in the 1950s and early 1960s. He says that back then you could get whatever you needed new from Mack. In the early 70s the man he worked for bought the last two new LJ cabs that the local Mack dealer, Carolina Garage(Winston-Salem,NC), had. These trucks I mention were redone and put back to work. Before the days of them being collectible.

Garry

T in NE · Dec 22, 2016

I love it when someone starts ranting about what a pos this is or that is so much better and I never did see a Cummins or Cat outrun my old 289.

Yeah, 40 years ago.

john *.?-!.* cub owner · Dec 22, 2016

I thought an owner operator was a prostitute with a mattress tied to her back.

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