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The California legislature just passed cow fart regulations. In a effort to cut down on methane gas in the cattle industry. The dairy industry needs to contain all the manure in an enclosed chamber. I don't know what they intend to do for all the methane gas they say is produced by cattle. Maybe pipe it into a giant balloon some how. Can't you just see cattle walking around with a giant balloon attached. You need to look it up to get more info. Stan
 
The Republik of Kalifornia is so out of touch with the rest of the country and the real world that it should secede.

I can't wait.

Dean
 
I know of two large dairies in CA that are moving. They are tired of the regulations and high cost of production there. Do not worry Governor Moon BEAM will wreck the already sinking ship of CA. The Government is in red ink up to it butt. So driving some more businesses out of CA will just make the crash happen sooner.
 
A guy that works where I do moved to Illinois from Ca. in 1965 because of the silliness back then. Obviously it's only gotten worse. He says it is a land that flows with milk and honey, but there's to many nuts and fruits to go with em!
 
Calling it "cow fart regulations" is hardly accurate. They are requiring dairies to collect manure in digesters, which will generate methane from it. The methane in turn is used to generate electricity. This will have no impact on bovine flatulence.
LA Times on methane law
 
Does it actually have anything at all to do with cow farts or is it just about how manure is handled?
 
Large dairy in N Indiana makes methane gas. The excess is sold.

The landfill in Terre Haute is capped and the methane is used at a brick factory.

As crazy as it sounds, collecting methane gas isn't anything new. It a good source of energy.

Some places sludge form sewer plants is converted into diesel.

California may be the first place to pass a law, but it's not the first place to use bio methane.

No reason large sewer plant couldn't collect human methane gas.
 
It's how manure is handled. I'm from Ioway and right now Wisconsin, a VERY Conservative State, is ahead of the rest of us in manure usage.
 
Wish they would do something like that over the city sewer plant in Wooster Ohio. You drive down RT 30 and when you get to the low lands right at the city limits it gags you out of your car ! Who would ever want to stop and visit ? They want to drive by as fast as they can.
 
Slightly OT but some time ago a picture went floating around : Young lady working at a Circus was assisting an elephant in defficating. She was behind the elephant with a very large plastic bag, holding the top up in position against the beast with her arms outstretched. Obviously her head was to the side and down. It was real as the beast WAS doing it's job. Geez, whadda job for her!
 
Its not cow farts its huge tanks of liquid manure the dairies produce,good example of how Industrial Agriculture has turned an asset like manure into a huge liability.On a reasonable size
diary farm the manure is a valuable resource that replaces purchased fertilizer.
 
The city of Bemidji MN has a similar situation, the waste treatment plant is close to one of their main tourist attractions! They have been working to enclose it recently. I understand some waste treatment plants capture the methane and burn it in the boiler.
 
There is an ethanol plant near Jackson NE that is partly fueled by the methane from a landfill like you describe. The water treatment plant in Sioux City IA had/has methane digesters. I worked with one of their former managers who told me that it barely paid for itself but sureare the town smell better.
 
WIS. must be ahead of Calif............many dairies HERE collect manure in closed methane digesters and use the energy to generate electricity to sell back to elec. coops as part of their renewable energy requirement.
Just makes sense....use manure as energy source !! Still have liquid left for fertilizer and solids to use for bedding. WIN win Win situation !!!


John
 
Back in the 70's there was a farm near me that had a capped slurry store. They collected the methane to run a generator, and heated water to sell to the neighboring county jail, so the technology has been around awhile.
I read an article in a local ag newspaper about a dairy farm in Germany that makes more money from methane than it does from milk.
The cow fart tax was actually proposed by the EPA
 
I see the large chicken farms here in Iowa are putting up buildings to store chicken poop. Wonder if that has something to do with methane?
 
Looks like collection of NG may be the wave of the future. I really don't see anything wrong with it. We all need to clean up the environment.
 
More to do with the EPA certain size chicken farms have to have manure under cover and composted before it can be spread on fields,it does make the final more valuable as its not leached out.
 
Not a bad idea, they have a high number of dairies if I recall correctly. Lots of dairies here with membranes over the poo tank. Methane gas dried and burned to make hot water for the dairy quite commonly. Saves loss of nitrogen value of the fertilizer as well if I recall correctly.
 
there are some that would like to outlaw cattle (and animal agriculture in general) due to the perception they are extreme polluters of the environment.
 
Methane digesters are fine , collect the manure and extract the methane . Brown wants an actual balloon attached to the animal right where it's tail is constantly swishing flies . and then the methane collected somehow. Does this sound even a little bit reasonable ?? I have nothing to do with dairies , but it sounds totally loony toons.........
 
The state is going after dairy's as a point source pollution along with feed lots. The Calif. Air Resource Board is behind this. The Calif. Water Control Board already regulates the run off from dairy's. Now they have plans to regulate range cattle because they crap on the ground. Then it rains and they claim the run off is a point source pollution. So far the Calif. Cattleman Assn. have been able to keep this one on hold. But it keeps coming up with a new name. This Is all about control by the crazy left. These regs. are just the tip of the iceberg of what we have to deal with everyday in the Golden State. All of agriculture is under assault in Calif. Steve
 
(quoted from post at 08:15:31 12/15/16) I keep saying we don't need the wall with Mexico, we need one at California.
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I am with you! The fruits and nuts in CA keep mentioning secession, but I think we should throw them out and save them the trouble and expense. There is no product from CA that I need in order to live my life just fine.
 
I've lived in both California and Iowa. They are very different, but I like them both very much. Comparisons are pointless. Iowa is very homogeneous. California is 4 or 5 different worlds. Most of the people that call California crazy have never been there. People are people. Some of my best friends live in California and some of my best friends live in Iowa.

I find the posts by the people that have seen methane capture actually work..in business..very informative.

California continues to grow.....Iowa, not much.
 
You folks elected and reelected someone that proudly refers to himself as...Moonbeam. It's kind of hard to feel sorry for you folks.

Mark
 
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