Liquid feed

LAA · Nov 24, 2016

Anybody feed corn syrup liquid feed? I have used molasses based liquid feed in lick tubs in the past but now am thinking about adding it to
TMR to make the poorer quality hay and commodity screenings more palatable and nutritious. I never used corn syrup and don't know if it
worth the trucking, I see the advertised price is all over the place and wonder how one product could vary so much in price unless there is very
little uniformity. Molasses based feeds are much more expensive but if the corn syrup does not have much feed value the molasses may be
cheaper in the long run.

Pair-a-dice farm · Nov 24, 2016

Here is a chart of feed values. I believe that corn syrup is listed on page 2 of the chart as corn distillers solubles .

http://extension.missouri.edu/explorepdf/agguides/ansci/g02051.pdf

Ragnarok · Nov 24, 2016

I used to get hog feed from a major name feed mill..one of the main ingredients was candy bars! I guess they must've got tons of out of date candy bars and mixed them in the rations...

coonie minnie · Nov 24, 2016

Are you feeding cattle? I feed a liquid distillers solubles called 'syrup' from our local ethanol plant. I am basically paying just the freight on the product, and cattle love it. It has about the same energy Mcals as corn (less carbs, more fat), 22-24 % protein, and a fair amount of Phos. Also a fair amount of Sulphur.

That is the good news- cheap and good feed. The BAd- it is harder to handle than molasses. It is very runny when hot, and shows up about 130 degrees. As it cools, it thickens like catchup. I use a gear pump to pump it, but it is somewhat erosive, and I get about 9 months out of a set of gear pump gears.

There are a lot of steers and dairy cattle fed that stuff in my neighborhood, but you will need a big tank that can take heat (some plastic tanks do not), a way to keep the stuff warm in the winter, and a good pump. As for the pump, there are people that use the banjo cast iron fertilizer pumps as well, but when it is still hot.

Good luck. It will be cheaper than molasses (in my neighborhood) but harder to work with.

coonie minnie · Nov 24, 2016

PS the stuff works great in a TMR. In 2009 we had a really dry season, and were very short of hay. Heifers ate nothing but corn stalks and syrup, plus a little mineral. That stuff stuck to the stalks like glue, and it was like carmel popcorn. There was NO sorting, and the heifers looked great.

JD Seller · Nov 24, 2016

I would be concerned about the type of corn syrup your looking at. The type Connie Minnie is talking about would be hard to transport over long distances and keep hot enough to still pump it. The guys that use it around here usually bury a steel tank to keep it warm enough to flow in the winter. You have to watch it as the sulfur content can be high. Many of the by products of corn sweetener and ethanol can have high sulfur contents as the processing does not remove any of the sulfur. So the by products have concentrated sulfur.

Here several years ago several of the local finishing lots got some wet gluten feed that was too high in sulfur and ended up losing a lot of cattle with polioencephalomalacia or commonly called "brainers". It is fatal too. One fellow lost over fifty head.

I feed some of the hot type several years ago as it was very cheap then they raised the price. I switched back to the molasses based products and I am sticking to them. The quality is more consistent and the cost is not much difference on a feed content basis.

dieselbob · Nov 24, 2016

I would suggest having your feed man balance your ration for you. with high sulfur in the syrup there is the danger of the cattle getting brainers or another name for it is cattle polio it is the swelling of the brain from to much sulfur in the feed. the mineral supplement needs higher thiamine to counter act the high sulfur.I had some issues in my feed lot a few years ago feeding wet cake that was balanced by a feed man and was still having problems until I had him custom make a balancer that had a higher rate of thiamine than they normally use in distillers grains. it could have been a combination sulfur in my water supply and the wet cake but haven't had a problem for many years sense I increased the thiamine. Bob

Billy Shafer · Nov 24, 2016

This is the feed I deliver. Cows seem happy with it.

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