Concealed Carry

Today I finished up the CCpermit process. Only took 15 minutes. Background was completed in 3 weeks. 4 to 6 weeks was expected.So,now I am 'legal'.

Congratulations! I need to file mine. Have all hte paperwork but getting to the court house is just a pain.

Good for you! GREAT thing to have in my opinion! of course, I can't get one until I am 21, but, both of my parents have them, my employer, both best friends, everyone I know really. Part of being an American in my opinion. A great thing to be allowed to have, and to continue to have! Bryce

Got lucky on mine. Got it before the latest rush, so had no wait for the background check. Got fingerprinted and walked out with the license the same day the first time. Last time I renewed, I had to wait a week or so for the background check to come back. Kinda crazy when I get the same background check every 5 years for CC and every five for hazmat. You would think it would be a slam dunk to approve since it is never more than 3 years between them.

Do you have life time carry permit where you live? Here in Indiana we have a 4 year and a lifetime and the life time doesn't cost that much more than the four year.

I've had mine for many years now, it's a little bit of a hassle to go through and also renewal. We have to renew every 5 or 10 years. The 10 year saves a little money but its main benefit is not having to renew every 5. We can also open carry with having the CC permit.

I have mine in my home state plus another state that has reciprocal rights in many other states.
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I got my lifetime not long after they came out. Mine was do to expire so I went to sheriff office and he said wait a week and we can do a lifetime. It only took a few weeks and I had it. The class 3 permit took me 18 months to get back but that had to go thru the feds so that slowed it down. There was several rural king around here that had a class to get your cc permit thru Utah because it is recognized in the most states.

Guard your rights guys. Look whats happening in NY to see what can happen when people allow an oppressive gov't to run wild. After passage of the "SAFE Act" (in a midnight session with no comment period or announcement of consideration) that placed ridiculous limits on legitimate gun owners who were not part of the problem the law was allegedly intended to address, it's only taken 3 years for some of the press to figure out it has had no impact whatsoever on crime and that criminals ignore gun laws!

Congratulations. I have had a "permit" for years, the laws changed some 5 or 6 years ago and it became "concealed carry" to be renewed every 5 years instead of every year here in Iowa.

It's like a fire extinguisher, you hope never to need it but you have it in case you do. I've never been so close to getting shot as I was in my concealed carry class. In my state you have to fire 50 rounds at varying distances to pass. I was in line next to an elderly guy that started off with a bad habit of not using the safety. He was a but overweight but had the holster that he intended to use. It was an inside waistband holster that he wore about where his right rear pocket was. He would try to reholster by twisting around to see the holster and end up pointing the dang thing at me and everyone else. Then a wild stabbing for the holster would ensue while I expected him to drop it on the ground. About the time I stepped over to give him a hand the instructor stepped in and helped him out and showed him where the safety was and gave him some tips to reholster. I'm sure he had been around guns all his life but was new to this one. After this moment the I structure stayed very close to him for a while.

I'm curious as to what 'Concealed Carry' means. I thought the 2nd Amendment WAS the Permit. I refuse to join the NRA as I believe they'll hand over your name to a repressive regime (nnalert) in a New York Minute. This 'Concealed Carry' permit appears to be the same deal. Certain elements of Criminals sure don't go for the Permit; why are you all 'rolling over'?

(quoted from post at 06:00:20 11/22/16) Congratulations. I have had a "permit" for years, the laws changed some 5 or 6 years ago and it became "concealed carry" to be renewed every 5 years instead of every year here in Iowa.

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I got my permit in 2015. Due for renewal in 2020. I took an on-line course, passed the on-line test, printed out the results, and took it to the local sheriff. If I remember right, the permit was in the mail about one week later.

Why should we have to get a permit to carry anyway? I think anybody should be able to buy and carry anything they want. I believe in the better good of the public to cure any situation that might arise. After all where is the cop when you need him probably at the donut shop.

Congratulations...That reminds me - I've had mine since 1984, but I live in the same state as Brett and sms. I think part of the emperors decree, was that your permit needs to be renewed every 5 years. I'll have to check into that
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I got mine in 1981. Before CC permit were really heard much about.

Yup, but even the State police, who at supposed to oversee the renewals don't really knw how it is supposed to work from what I understand. I keep hoping that NY City will get sick of us and go it on their own as a state and leave us alone, but it's a bit down the road yet. The Rotten Apple has been making life increasingly miserable for us up here for 40 years now. NY City has nothing in common with us and the sooner they just go away, the better off the rest of the state will be.

Idaho voted to be that way here just recently! No longer need a CCP, BUT, everyone still has them so that we can go to Washington and Oregon, or possibly even Utah, they all still require them. About a year ago we voted that anyone with a CCP could conceal carry on college campus as well. Which I think that is a very good thing too, adds a certain level of doubt to anyone thinking about trying something stupid....

At our class THEY supplied everything. Their pistols and NO holsters. This way THEY controlled everything and knew everything worked and all the same. No one allowed to bring their own "anything". Very smart of them.

I did the simple thing and waited for Missouri to come around and do the Constitutional carry thing so as of Jan 1st if you can legally own a gun you can carry if you want carry concealed

There are already a number of states with Constitutional carry which means you can carry concealed if you want to. As of Jan 1st Missouri will be one of them. There is talk about it might become legal in all 50 if people soon to be in DC have there way. I'll not go into it deeper here

Congratulations on acquiring your Concealed Carry Permit.

Just make sure you carry it with you wherever you go.

It does you no good locked in a safe, sitting on the dresser next to the bed, or under the front seat of the truck.

Nancy and I both have handgun permits.

We both took a handgun course and a written examination.

We both qualified by firing 50 rounds at various distances at the gun range and scoring 175 or above out of a possible 250.

All documentation and fingerprints were submitted to Texas Department of Public Safety.

License was received after about two months.

As of January 1st of this year, Texas now allows open carry.

We both still "conceal carry" our handguns and keep a couple of extra handguns in the truck.

As the old saying goes "[i:654c4848f0]better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it[/i:654c4848f0]".

I have had mine for many years now.
Here in MA it costs $ 100 for five years until you turn 70 then it is free.
No open carry, must be concealed.

Forget about getting one in NJ. If your life is threatened you apply for a carry permit and they review it for 90days. they OK it but after that amount of time your dead already. NJ doesn't issue many permits. They along with New York HATE people who own GUNS. They will make it tough on anyone who is caught with a gun. I would think twice before vacationing in any of those states and would spend my tourists dollars in states that welcome gun owners.

Just curious, how does your generation in general feel about carrying guns? I think us Baby Boomers for the most part support it....

I am mystified by so many peoples need to carry. Personally, I have never been that afraid.

Personally I've had a gun pulled on me. Since that time I carry all the time, be it open, or concealed, everywhere legal to do so. To me my pistol is nothing more than another tool, like my knife. The only difference is it's the one tool I pray I will never need to use.

That said, if you've ever watched the news, you'll see that the majority of people who are involved in a crime, as the victim, have never felt like it would happen to them either. Thing is, anything can happen to anybody, any time, anywhere. Further, in my case, I often work alone, anywhere from a bad part of town, to miles out in the country, on pipeline right of ways, etc. Given that my service truck, and all my tools easily hit the $150,000 mark, it wouldn't take anything for me to be robbed.....except for the fact I am armed. With that in mind, how many armored car companies are going to drive around with $150,000 dollars without an armed guard?

To put things in a different light, I've only had one flat tire, on a personal vehicle, in more than 30 years of driving. Even so, every vehicle I have has a spare tire. I've got tools on my service truck that have been riding around for nearly 20 years, and haven't been used but once or twice.

To compare either scenario to carrying a weapon, the thought process is the same. 'Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.'

(quoted from post at 00:28:41 11/23/16) I am mystified by so many peoples need to carry. Personally, I have never been that afraid.

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Paper work? Finger Prints? DadGum, down here you just walk into the sheriff's office and they run a quick check on you (takes about 5 minutes) show your license to prove you are who you say you are. Hand over $20 and they hand you a card that looks like a drivers license and that's it.

Me too. Actually it has happened more than once. Each time I walked away fine.

A study in the journal of public health showed my experience is not an anomaly. Those who carry are 450% more likely to be shot than those unarmed. I know, I know, academic intellectuals... but sometimes the cards are what they are.

(quoted from post at 20:28:41 11/22/16) I am mystified by so many peoples need to carry. Personally, I have never been that afraid.

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It's not fear Paul. It's realizing that the world isn't really Mayberry where the worst that happens is the harmless town drunk riding a cow. I would never demand everyone carry or even own a gun, but I would never leave someone helpless to defend themselves and their property. The incidence of armed robberies and home invasions is increasing here. People are being attacked and beaten in the belief they voted for a certain person in the last election. We've had little girls kidnapped right out of their front yards here and raped. And that's to say nothing of the incidence of problems with predation on livestock. And I live in a "low crime" area. So some of us carry, maybe regularly, maybe occasionally. Nothing wrong with that.

(quoted from post at 10:15:25 11/23/16) Me too. Actually it has happened more than once. Each time I walked away fine.

A study in the journal of public health showed my experience is not an anomaly. Those who carry are 450% more likely to be shot than those unarmed. I know, I know, academic intellectuals... but sometimes the cards are what they are.

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Okay, I've read a few of those studies. I have yet to see one that that distinguishes between a person legally carrying and someone, say a gang member or drug dealer, illegally carrying. It's agenda driven studies. Just like the "fact" that if there is "a gun in the home", the chances of someone being harmed with it jump astronomically. Well yeah, I can pretty much guarantee that if someone is shot by someone in a home there is going to be a gun in the home! What they don't do is differentiate between legally owned guns used by the homeowner and illegally owned guns or guns brought into the home by a home invader or burglar or any of a number of other mitigating factors. It's the old story of garbage data in, garbage data out. You commission a study with a certain goal and I can pretty much promise you that if you use certain data you will meet that goal, whatever it is.

(quoted from post at 11:23:31 11/22/16) Yup, but even the State police, who at supposed to oversee the renewals don't really knw how it is supposed to work from what I understand. I keep hoping that NY City will get sick of us and go it on their own as a state and leave us alone, but it's a bit down the road yet. The Rotten Apple has been making life increasingly miserable for us up here for 40 years now. NY City has nothing in common with us and the sooner they just go away, the better off the rest of the state will be.

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X 100!!! Cut the state off at the Tappan Zee or better just north of Albany and cut it adrift!

You can slant any dam! study the way you want or not be smart enough to decipher the details., but that 450% would include gang bangers and undesirables thus skewing the truth. If you conducted a study of only honest people with the only intent of carrying for protection your results would be very low of those being shot while carrying. The real danger in this country is those that throw this kind of garbage around and those that are not smart enough to see through it.

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(quoted from post at 11:23:31 11/22/16) Yup, but even the State police, who at supposed to oversee the renewals don't really knw how it is supposed to work from what I understand. I keep hoping that NY City will get sick of us and go it on their own as a state and leave us alone, but it's a bit down the road yet. The Rotten Apple has been making life increasingly miserable for us up here for 40 years now. NY City has nothing in common with us and the sooner they just go away, the better off the rest of the state will be.

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X 100!!! Cut the state off at the Tappan Zee or better just north of Albany and cut it adrift!

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Kind of like what Sen. Barry Goldwater said should done with the "left" coast years ago!Yup, down state stinks-over.

(quoted from post at 16:28:41 11/22/16) I am mystified by so many peoples need to carry. Personally, I have never been that afraid.

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Paul, I have my permit. Hardly ever carry. For our location it just really isn't needed when the county averages less that one shooting a year. I have mine more to make a political statement to our politicians. The state does keep track of how many people have permits.

Rick

I have had this article for quite a while so I don't remember who wrote it. Pretty well sums up as to why carry a gun:

“Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that’s it.



“In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

“When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gangbanger, and a single gay guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

“There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we’d be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a mugger to do his job.

“That, of course, is only true if the mugger’s potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat — it has no validity when most of a mugger’s potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong and the many, and that’s the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

“Then there’s the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks or stones don’t constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst.



“The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that’s as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weightlifter. It simply wouldn’t work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn’t both lethal and easily employable.

“When I carry a gun, I don’t do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I’m looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don’t carry it because I’m afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn’t limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation … and that’s why carrying a gun is a civilized act.”

(quoted from post at 14:15:25 11/23/16) Me too. Actually it has happened more than once. Each time I walked away fine.

A study in the journal of public health showed my experience is not an anomaly. Those who carry are 450% more likely to be shot than those unarmed. I know, I know, academic intellectuals... but sometimes the cards are what they are.

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Tell it to my daughter she has had a cc for years 8 mos ago a man tried to approach her in the parking lot at target she said she just knew he was up to know good she pulled her gun pointed it at him and he high tailed it back to his car and took off. I'm very proud of her! I sent her this and now its her favorite.

OK guys face it. Most robberies are just that, a robbery. They stick a gun in your face, take your wallet and run. Now you have a guy walk up to you, stick a gun in your face, demand your wallet and you decide to play John Wayne HE'S GONNA SHOOT BACK! ODDS ARE WHEN YOU GRAB YOUR GUN HE's GONNA START SHOOTING BEFORE YOU DO! At the range where you can hand your wallet to him HE'S MOST LIKELY GOING TO HIT YOU! Now you have to make a decision. Is your wallet worth your life? Part of the responsibility of carrying is knowing when to use that gun. IF you are sure he's gonna shoot by all means take whatever steps are necessary to defend your life. You ain't John Wayne and this isn't a movie.

Rick

OK guys face it. Most robberies are just that, a robbery. They stick a gun in your face, take your wallet and run. Now you have a guy walk up to you, stick a gun in your face, demand your wallet and you decide to play John Wayne HE'S GONNA SHOOT BACK! ODDS ARE WHEN YOU GRAB YOUR GUN HE's GONNA START SHOOTING BEFORE YOU DO! At the range where you can hand your wallet to him HE'S MOST LIKELY GOING TO HIT YOU! Now you have to make a decision. Is your wallet worth your life? Part of the responsibility of carrying is knowing when to use that gun. IF you are sure he's gonna shoot by all means take whatever steps are necessary to defend your life. You ain't John Wayne and this isn't a movie.

Rick

Tanker, so the answer is to let him shoot you? No thanks. I've seen the studies on reaction time. You reach for you wallet, he thinks, and come out with a gun and you shoot. You win, end of story. Of course that's if you think it's worth doing in the first place. My wallet has my retired shield (badge) in it. If he see's that I stand a better chance of being shot than Joe Average. So I'd be inclined to assume he means deadly harm.

You can come up wit a zillion shoot/don't shoot scenarios. So what? If you think you're in real danger of deadly physical harm and you're carrying at least you have a chance to defend yourself. That's the beginning and end of the story,

I know an FBI agent went to a play in New York city . Went to mens room , woke up head bashed in wallet and service weapon missing. A mugging is not what you think.

There are all sorts of muggings, robberies, etc. You can't say one will happen and another won't. I know this much- I've seen people who had no means to defend themselves against an attacker. It isn't pretty. I would never require anyone to have a weapon, but I would never take away their right to have one unless they have shown they can't be trusted with one, ie- felons, criminals, druggies, the insane.

Good for you. An armed society is a polite society. Who ever thinks carrying is wrong, is just wrong minded.