SR-71 Blackbird

Ultradog MN

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This story comes around on various links about this time every year. I've read it several times and will undoubtedly read it again next year.
The part about the ground speed checks always makes me chuckle.
Awesome airplane
 
Wow. Impressive is not the word. But I have never believed what I've read about the design. To me, the tapered sides that taper down to an edge are something else, something secret they're never telling us about. And that's as it should be, but to me theres great unknowns about that plane.
 
There is one at the Air Zoo in Battle Creek Michigan also. Pretty impressive for slide rule and drafting board engineering.
 
Thanks for the link Ultradog. What an incredible airplane, and a well written description of piloting this amazing airplane.
 
Awesome indeed, the people that designed, built and flew the plane are special . One more thing this country can be proud of. Rod.
 
Awesome! I am a pilot and always wanted to fly fighters, but just didn't do it. It is one of my great regrets.
 
I think Ive mentioned this before, my boss has a vertical stabilizer from the one that is on display in Oregon. I think its 19971. Ive never seen a Blackbird, but if the VS is any indication of size, that thing is massive.
 
That is/was one awesome airplane. Of the ones built, pilots reported each had its own personality. Some were easy to fly, and others knew when you looked out the window. In the group photo, you can see the trainer with a second pilot "piggybacked" on top of the main cockpit.
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(quoted from post at 08:06:04 10/08/16) And to think it was built in 62.

This was still a good can-do country in 62. That was before the leftist takeover that turned us into a third world $hithole.
 
My one regret in life is that I never learned to fly. The Marine Corps sent me to school to learn to navigate transport planes with search radar, but it never became a full time assignment.

In the early 1960's, a flight instructor at the New Bern, NC airport would guarantee your solo license for $75. Several of my buddies took him up on it, and I wanted to, but I always either never had the $75 to spare or I was off on a tangent of some sort.

What would that cost today?
 
(quoted from post at 07:42:11 10/08/16) No idea, 25 years ago it was about $2500.

I did the local ground school and some beginning flight lessons in 2003. I was figuring $3-$4,000. Then our wonderful FAA tied me up for a year and a half fighting with Oklahoma City over my medical certification. Seems they dont like people with kidney transplants and the associated drugs flying. I took and passed every test they came up with, finally contacted my congressman, got an "advocate" out of DC. and beat them. Then a local quack flight surgeon screwed me over by claiming I had the signs of diabetis. That was 13 years ago and I still dont have it. I gave up.

Gene
 
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(quoted from post at 08:06:04 10/08/16) And to think it was built in 62.

This was still a good can-do country in 62. That was before the leftist takeover that turned us into a third world $hithole.

I blame the lawyers at least a little for the fortunes of the united states.
 
Thanks for Posting Ultradog MN.

For those who live in or close to the US NORTH WEST you can see an SR-71 Blackbird per below:

It has been 10 years since I spent a day at the "Evergreen Aviation Museum in McMinnville, Oregon"

500 Northeast Captain Michael King Smith Way
McMinnville, OR 97128



SR-71 832 has been moved to the Evergreen Aviation Museum in McMinnville, Oregon. As of early 2003, the Blackbird is on public display. Evergreen Aviation is a largely unknown but huge air freight carrier. The owner established an air museum a few years ago, and the museum gained international recognition when it obtained and moved the Spruce Goose from Los Angeles to Oregon.

500 Northeast Captain Michael King Smith Way
McMinnville, OR 97128
 
If you're in the central Kansas area and want to see one there is an SR-71 (#61-7961) on display in the lobby of the Kansas Cosmosphere space museum in Hutchinson. It is mounted low with the nose just a few feet off the floor so you can get an up-close, hands-on view. The main museum is definitely well worth the trip, too.
 
We had one at the flight wing museum in Minneapolis until the feds came and took it away. Never heard where it ended up. Was nice as you could walk right up and walk all around it no rails fence or anything.
 
(quoted from post at 03:27:57 10/08/16) This story comes around on various links about this time every year. I've read it several times and will undoubtedly read it again next year.
The part about the ground speed checks always makes me chuckle.
Awesome airplane
What i find totally amazing is all the engineering was done with slide rules. No computers existed at the time to do the calculations needed. And the same for the Apollo program that put a man on the moon. A feat that has yet to be equalled.
 
(quoted from post at 13:27:32 10/08/16)
(quoted from post at 03:27:57 10/08/16) This story comes around on various links about this time every year. I've read it several times and will undoubtedly read it again next year.
The part about the ground speed checks always makes me chuckle.
Awesome airplane
What i find totally amazing is all the engineering was done with slide rules. No computers existed at the time to do the calculations needed. And the same for the Apollo program that put a man on the moon. A feat that has yet to be equalled.

We sure couldn't do it again. The engineering drawings for the Saturn V are lost.
 
(quoted from post at 11:02:23 10/08/16)
(quoted from post at 13:27:32 10/08/16)
(quoted from post at 03:27:57 10/08/16) This story comes around on various links about this time every year. I've read it several times and will undoubtedly read it again next year.
The part about the ground speed checks always makes me chuckle.
Awesome airplane
What i find totally amazing is all the engineering was done with slide rules. No computers existed at the time to do the calculations needed. And the same for the Apollo program that put a man on the moon. A feat that has yet to be equalled.

We sure couldn't do it again. The engineering drawings for the Saturn V are lost.
Yeah it was 47 years ago when apollo 11 landed. i can still remember the day.
 
One time we managed to get the Rickety Rocket up to just over 600 knots over the ground. That was going from DFW to one of our destinations in the southeast. It was winter and we had a particularly strong jetstream helping a lot. Of course on the return leg we were dealing with one heck of a headwind.

The slowest was in a Cessna 152. Doing an MCA maneuver and turned into the prevailing wind, we had our groundspeed down to about zero according to the TRACON.
 
And I believe it only took 2 years from the idea of building one to actual production. Now they can't even build a website in 4 years.
 
Last I've heard a primary trainer was right at around 100 bucks and maybe a fuel surcharge depending on local flavor. Instruction now is around 40 an hour.

Average solo time was about 15 hours. I did solo one guy at 12 hours; he was just ready. Being older you could probably do it in 10. Sometimes the kids don't come as prepared as they should be.
I worked at a part 141 school and we trained to proficiency rather than hurry people through at a minimum standard.

When I started, a primary trainer was 36 an hour wet. With the cost for a young person starting out these days the training cost to get all the way to commercial multi and instrument makes for a terrible ROI.
 
I saw this plane at the museum near Omaha...and remember the story about how leaky is was when on the ground, how much it expanded while flying. Also something about a rear view mirror outside of the cockpit. Was it to check for flameout, or ?? Don"t remember. I do know it was not to see who was passing him!
 

Thanks for linking that story again UD. I have read it a few times and have related it to other people a number of times. I saw one up close at the Imperial war Museum in Duxford UK
 
I went to see the one that was here.
Local newspaperman/radio host Joe Soucheray did a live broadcast from almost under the wing of the plane. That's getting to be a few years now - 15? 20?
You could walk up to it but not touch it if I remember.
Then they stole it from us. Someone with more powerful connections I presume.
I wonder where it went.
A guy could probably find that out on the internet.
Thanks for all the nice replies.
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One of my favorites for sure. When I was stationed on Okinawa ('75-'76), one would fly out of Kadena AFB and I was lucky enough to be passing by the end of the runway on a road. That thing was awesome. It just sorta floated off the ground and turned nose upward and just disappeared. Traffic came to a stop as people starred with their jaw dropped. They had one on display at the air show while I was there. Very awesome. Left an impression on this Navy boy at 19, for sure. I have wondered if the movie "Foxfire" with Clint Eastwood as the pilot that stole the Russian plane, was based on the SR71? Sure looked a lot like one. Great movie btw.
 

Found a video of one taking off from Kadena at night with full afterburners. Just Wow! (for some reason, it says it's not the real plane taking off but is the real sound?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnDRUru9KZU

Interesting info. during that time period about the # of missles fired at it. Also different problems with it that had to be worked out.

On 18 March #978 was to fly the first scheduled Operational Mission but diverted into Ching Chuan Kang (CCK), Taiwan due to adverse weather. #978 returned to Det 1 on 23 March, 1968.

On 19 March #976 was next scheduled but did not fly that day.

On 21 March 1968, USAF SR-71 #974 flew the First Operational sortie over Vietnam, piloted by Jerry O'Malley and RSO Ed Paine. Upon return to Kadena Jerry O'Malley found the base fogged in and diverted to CCK. This first mission revealed enemy emplacements around Khe Sanh, Vietnam that had previously been undetected. The battle of Khe Sanh ended two weeks after this sortie was flown.

The second flight with aircraft #976, was also flown by the same crew on 10 April 1968. Upon descent from 80,000 feet, both engines flamed out. Colonel O'Malley succeeded in restarting both engines at around 20,000 feet. After refueling, the flight continued on to a normal landing at Kadena. This flight led to the Blackbird's nickname the "Lead Sled".

One week later, Pilot Buddy Brown and RSO Dave Jensen flew the third Operational sortie into North Vietnam. Upon descent from altitude, the left generator was lost and both engines flamed out. A restart of both engines was accomplished and the aircraft landed at Takhli RTAFB, Thailand. Maintenance crews from Kadena flew in and performed the repairs. The aircraft returned uneventful to Kadena AB.

The fourth flight was also flown by Habu's Brown/Jensen. Again as they descended from altitude, they experienced a generator failure with a double engine flame out. Engine restart was successfully accomplished and the aircraft again landed at Takhli.

On 19 April 1968 #974 was piloted by Jim Watkins and RSO Dave Dempster for the fifth operational mission. Descending from altitude they experienced a double engine unstart and flameout. Jim Watkins finally solved the flameout problems by holding the RPM's a couple hundred higher than check-list as he brought it out of afterburner. (Editor's Note: MSgt Ronald J. De Lozier, at that time was Assistant Crew Chief on #974. He states that the problem was related to fuel control scheduling. These flameouts occurred due to unusual outside air temperatures that was not the norm for this part of the world. A reschedule of the fuel controls solved the problem.)

On 25 May 1968 #978 was piloted by Don Walbrecht and RSO Phil Loignon launching out of Kadena for their first Combat Flight over Vietnam. The flight was not without incident but returned to Kadena uneventful. They subsequently flew a total of eight operational sorties from Kadena.

On 26 July 1968 #976 was piloted by Major's Tony Bevacqua and RSO Jerry Crew in an operational mission over Hanoi, North Vietnam. [b:3fa4a8a2b4]This flight was the first time that a SAM had locked on and fired upon a Blackbird. The crew knew they had been fired upon by two missiles and after flying a return track over the [/b:3fa4a8a2b4]same area, no additional SAM's were fired. Landing was uneventful at Kadena. The Terrain tracking camera recorded the SA-2's launches and later evaluation revealed the nearest missile exploded about one mile behind and away from #976.

Throughout the Det 1's operational missions, Surface to Air Missiles were fired at the Blackbirds in an attempt to bring down one of the Reconnaissance Planes. [b:3fa4a8a2b4]At times, SAM's were fired in salvos but as "Kelly" Johnson stated: "Over 1,000 missiles has been fired at the Blackbird without a loss of Plane or Crew". [/b:3fa4a8a2b4]Superior DEF electronics and Habu Crew skills certainly contributed to the success and accomplishment of the Operational Sorties.
During the 22 years that Kadena Det 1 operations were in effect, Operational missions were flown to Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, North Korea, airspace off the USSR and China. In addition, four 11 hour flights to the Persian Gulf occurred during the Iran-Iraq War in 1987 and 1988. A total of 2,410 SR-71 missions were flown from first deployment in 1968 to Detachment 1 closure in 1990.

Real clips of take off/passes [/url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N31eEXjNAUU

I wonder what it would be like to have two of NASA's most powerful rockets strapped to my behind and then set off toward space....must be what it would be like on take off.
 
(quoted from post at 15:18:15 10/08/16) I saw this plane at the museum near Omaha...and remember the story about how leaky is was when on the ground, how much it expanded while flying. Also something about a rear view mirror outside of the cockpit. Was it to check for flameout, or ?? Don"t remember. I do know it was not to see who was passing him!

This video explains about the speed and such but also speaks about the fuel leakage and why it did that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60zniMMifFA
 

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