Short fused sellers....(long)

Well since I sold my 2 Deeres, I had a little $$$ burning a hole in my pocket so I thought I would go look at another that was for sale. 1995 Model 6300 power quad, seller claimed it was "field ready". At first glance I had my doubts, one rear tire almost bald and low on air...other had obviously sat flat for awhile looking at the severe checking in the key area...and a corroded rim covered with paint. Front tires checked, braiding showing on hydraulic hoses, one steering cylinder with a significant leak, tail lights smashed and held together with duct tape, front grilles flopping and...someone had cut off a longer hood and it was just sitting on top, nothing to hold it on! OK, now onto better things. Steering wheel pod just flops up and down, can't adjust the seat, open ashtray and it is full of fuses??? (probably explains why cover is off of the fuse box). I start it up and it roars to life (throttle was set wide open for some reason). I take it out on the road to check the gears...1500 rpm, tractor surges randomly (sounds like it is in the tranny). I put it thru the ranges and can't get it to stay in range D...so I decide its not for me. I shut it off and tell the seller it pops out of D range..he says it's never done that for him. So I tell him to show me how he keeps it in, so he gets in the seat and I hang on in the doorway of the cab...he opens the throttle wide open and slams it into D range and pops the clutch...and it stays in, so he says you have to have these tractors revved up! Then he slams it into all the ranges, popping the clutch in each (good thing I was hanging on). Then he idles it down a little and jams it into D range....and it pops out. I told him I didn't need a tractor with transmission issues (actually I would never buy a tractor from a guy that treated one like this). He says whatever, jumps in his car and speeds off. Strange! I was fortunate it was only a 300 mile trip.....
Anyone else have stories of a seller with a short fuse??

What the &^%$E^ does "seller having a short fuse" have to do with anything?

Some uniformed guy or con artist was gonna sell you a piece of dog excrement and you emerged unscathed.

And the problem is???

As usual Bob you prove what holes the rest of us are.

At least it was "field ready" and not "needs nothing"

6300 are/were a nice tractor.

I'm thinking Bob was the seller.... LOL!

I called on a 185 Allis guy says its in great condition,I ask if it jumps out of any gears,long silence.Then he gets real defensive well it jumps out of some gear he can't remember which one but they 'all jump out of gear' all you have to do is hold it in gear going down hill,The he's getting madder starts on a tirade about I shouldn't expect an old tractor to be perfect etc etc.
I'm guessing he'd been asked the gear question a few times(LOL)

He probably also mentioned, "it's worth a lot more than what I'm selling it for..." LOL!

I am always very careful about how I ask a seller about the firmness of his price. I looked at a late model garden tractor and asked the guy "Are you firm on your price?" and the guy went off on me like I had offered him $2.50 called me a low balling blank blank. Needless to say we didnt deal, the tractor was for sale for months,, wonder why???

After it failed the visual inspection you knew he was untruthful and hereby dishonest, why did you bother to start the engine? You should have left immediately. If that much was in bad shape, you should expect the unseen condition to be no better.

Yeah a dealer actually, went to get a u joint for a rake, he couldn't find the part number on the computer so he gave
the u joint a whip, bounced off the wall and he went on cussing. Not the first time for them to do that.

(quoted from post at 04:09:03 09/23/16) Yeah a dealer actually, went to get a u joint for a rake, he couldn't find the part number on the computer so he gave
the u joint a whip, bounced off the wall and he went on cussing. Not the first time for them to do that.

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Wow, What dealer was that? Were they across the street from Sloan?

Last Auction up in Dodgeville, Ol' Bill musta been off his meds. His truck is always the slower truck selling, and the second truck gets ahead and has to stop and wait a lot. At the end of the second row, the truck got about 5 pieces ahead. Over the intercom, Bill told the truck not to get ahead again. Well, on the third row the second truck moved ahead about two pieces and the auctioneer told the driver to stop. He hadn't so much as said it, when Bill got on the intercom again, and told the truck that he was gonna fire the whole lot of them if they so much as moved!

When I was 16, I listened to Bill cuss out a guy who might or might not have walked away from having the top bid on a skid steer. He called him all sorts of things that would make a sailor blush, right over the intercom. Then he took his bidder card and tore it up, threw it in his face, and told him never to come back!

I also listened to Jeff in Fennimore rant about how he was gonna light a 4430 on fire for the insurance money if he didn't get more money over the intercom at his consignment sale a couple years back. Worst is, it worked. He got 2000 more. It was an ugly old beast - missing door and back window, fenders looked like they would fall off if you touched them. I'll admit it sounded good.

Maybe he is just off his meds!

In his mind NOT "field ready" = tires flat-- tires aired up = "field ready" lol.

The seller might have felt you were wasting his time or contradicting him (calling him a liar). I agree with Moonlite, if a machine is not what I'm looking for or does not match the description, I politely move on.

I can be the seller with the short fuse if somebody starts running things down where there aren't really any issues or if there is and I made that clear in the ad.
Not saying that's what happened to you,but,and I shouldn't be saying this. I might want to sell something to one of you some day,the best way to beat me out of something is to tell me how good it is,how it's just what you're looking for,but you just don't know how you can come up with quite that much money.

I think I would have told him to have a nice day and left before I bothered to start it up. Although I would have been cussing under my breath for me wasting my time for even coming to looking at it.

(quoted from post at 05:56:39 09/23/16) I can be the seller with the short fuse if somebody starts running things down where there aren't really any issues or if there is and I made that clear in the ad.
Not saying that's what happened to you,but,and I shouldn't be saying this. I might want to sell something to one of you some day,the best way to beat me out of something is to tell me how good it is,how it's just what you're looking for,but you just don't know how you can come up with quite that much money.

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Well, I had specifically asked how the transmission was and if he had had any problems with it and he told me that it worked fine. I don't think surging and popping out of a range at low rpm is fine...

(quoted from post at 04:02:13 09/23/16) After it failed the visual inspection you knew he was untruthful and hereby dishonest, why did you bother to start the engine? You should have left immediately. If that much was in bad shape, you should expect the unseen condition to be no better.

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You would drive 150 miles and not want to take it for a test drive??? I felt I had nothing to lose at that point, I guess I did get a good lesson out of it (never buy a tractor in the basin - you WA guys will know what I mean)

Yep that is the guys, real great dealer huh! LOL I try to not go there.

One of the first sales at Jeffs a guy had a 4030 and it was in the back row, the guy got tired of waiting for them so
he drove it home, Jeff was madder then a wet hen about that.

What happens to me is the buyer comes out. I give them the straight honest scoop on whatever it is I'm selling and before I know it, I've talked them out I buying..... LOL!

Bob, he said it was a 300 mile trip. You like to drive that far for a misrepresented tractor?

I run into sellers that don't want to sell. Was a car trailer on the side of the road with a sign for a couple weeks, owner was mowing lawn one
day I stopped in.

We chatted for a half hour, before he says well he's not sure what to ask for it, not really sure he should sell it. Made no move to do anything at
all, got the feeling he wanted people to stop and chat with, wasn't ever going to sell it.....

Paul

I had an AC 7010 powershift for sale, brand new studded ice pick chains, 9 ft double auger blower with hydro chute, plow gear on the front with pushbars to the back, lights etc,
rebuilt motor. Talked to a guy that called about it for an hour, sent him 20+ pictures and 10 minutes of videos of the tractor being cold started and walk around to show the
warts. Guy says hold it for me, drove 250 miles with a 40 ft flatbed, said he had to have it. Got here, drove it around for 30 minutes and says this is way too big, "I thought it
was about 70 hp because the number said 7010 on it, I won't be able to use this" then proceeded to offer me 4000$ when I was asking 7500$.

I bit my tongue my only comfort was he wasted about 7 hours driving.

Seen a lot of field ready tractors like that. usually sitting in a field
with trees growing out of them.

(quoted from post at 08:21:14 09/23/16) I had an AC 7010 powershift for sale, brand new studded ice pick chains, 9 ft double auger blower with hydro chute, plow gear on the front with pushbars to the back, lights etc,
rebuilt motor. Talked to a guy that called about it for an hour, sent him 20+ pictures and 10 minutes of videos of the tractor being cold started and walk around to show the
warts. Guy says hold it for me, drove 250 miles with a 40 ft flatbed, said he had to have it. Got here, drove it around for 30 minutes and says this is way too big, "I thought it
was about 70 hp because the number said 7010 on it, I won't be able to use this" then proceeded to offer me 4000$ when I was asking 7500$.

I bit my tongue my only comfort was he wasted about 7 hours driving.

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Think I saw that one on kijiji, thought it looked like a snowblowing SOB at a decent price.

I never underestimate the stupidity of a potential buyer. Years ago I put my 3/4 ton Ford in Dad's yard for sale. One day, right at lunch time, a feller pulls in to look, Dad looks out, sees him, and goes back to finish eating, allowing him some time to look it over. After a good 15 mins. the guy comes to the door, and knocks, Dad answers, feller says I'm interested in that truck, what can ya tell me about it ? Dad says well it's a '79 model, 3/4 ton, 351, 4spd., . . . feller jerks his head up, and says 4spd. ?, . . . why I wouldn't have the damn thing ! :roll:

About 6 years ago dad and I drove about 2 hours away to go look at a forage harvested advertised in good shape, and the few pictures looked good. Made arrangements to meet the guy at a certain time and he gave us directions. We found it and we're a bit early, so I didn't worry about him not being there yet. Here it was on a trailer parked in a ditch, and by the looks of it had been there all summer.

It had a flat tire, worn chains and belts, and just really want add it was represented. At this tone our was a good 1/2 hour after we agreed to meet, and he still wasn't there. I called him up, and he says he's on his way, but he's still an hour out! Asked me if we were going to take it, and I just laid it out for him. Said the machine was in no way field ready and needed more work than what we were trying to replace. He still asked, and I told him no, as we only came with my car to check it out, instead of showing up ready to pull it home. At that point he got upset with me and started complaining. I forget what I told him but we agreed to disagree and we drove home.

On the way home dad disagreed with my GPS on how to get home, so we got really lost. I got my payback on him though. We were in my VW, and on really winding twisting roads. By the time we found a highway, he was green and ready to get out. He never questioned me again while driving. :twisted:

Donovan from Wisconsin

Wasn't a sale ad as such but an auction bill that got me. Had 6 or 7 tractors on it with 2 I was interested in. The sale bill listed most as running and field ready with 2 non runners and the bill specifically said "engines free". Got to the auction and each tractor had a sheet of printer paper taped to it listing problems. 2 of the tractors actually ran. One an IH 856 that bill claimed as field ready had "tranny issues". The other runner was also a "field ready" tractor, AC CA. That one said one cylinder low compression and that it jumped out of 2nd and 3rd gear. 3 of the tractors the engines were frozen. I did not stay for the sale and will not attend that auctioneers sales. At least it was only a half an hour drive.

Rick

I've never been one to point out the issues to a seller. I just say not for me, thanks, and move on.

On the one occasion I have felt a seller are really trying to hide issues to the point of ripping someone off, I post the infamous "To the Guy" ad and let everyone looking at the machine know what to look for.

The ad magically got pulled and reappeared about a month later as a "for parts" ad.

Grouse

Your OP says you sold 2 Deere's? I assume the 3010 was one of them since you really had no intentions of keeping it and were most likely to flip it.

Have you already sold the (5525?) MFWD one with a cab so soon after buying as well? What was the reasons for selling it so soon? (e.g. fuel hog? rough riding? Too big for your operation? Too small for your operation, other, etc.)