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Opinion on this D19

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denglish

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I put this on the AC forum, but thought I would put it here too.

I am in the market for a tractor for running a brush hog and also for running a fence post auger. I do not currently own those implements, but I want to get a tractor with a 3 point and enough HP to run these. I will buy the implements after getting the tractor. Also I would like to stay in the $3,000 range. I have 11 acres and an old Farmall SA that I use for my 1-acre truck garden.

So here is my question. What are your thoughts on this old D19 currently on Craigslist? it is near my house and I am thinking about checking it out. Any tips on what to look for regarding possible problems? Also, any opinions on the 3-point conversion?

http://wichita.craigslist.org/grd/5770958529.html
 
It looks like a very good solution. The original hitch was proprietary Alis design and the conversion is a solid solution for 3pt operation, no problem.
The front spindles may be on the wrong side, or the steering arms (top of spindles) may be on the wrong side. In Ackerman steering (which it has) the
steering arm must point to the center of the rear axle. Those appear to be pointing away from the center of the tractor as they go rearward. The ball
joint visible in the picture should be farther away from the front tire. This creates a serious scrubbing of the front tires on corners. The issue can
be fixed pretty easily and should not affect the purchase except a reduction in price. Driving the tractor before buying it can demonstrate the problem
by turning a tight circle and watching the outer tire in the turn not turn enough, and the inner tire turn too much. Jim
 
Don't forget it doesn't have true live pto
it will be hard to shift if you're going
back and forth with a Bush hog . There a
nice tractors but check out 3rd gear they
do have a high chance of jumping out. If I
remember correctly and you find a 3 point
rear end off a 190 that will swap the snap
coupler out
 
Think by hard to shift he means while the pto is still turning which would be a problem with rotary mower. I never ran one on that kind of application so others will know more.
 
I ran a D 19 with a rotary mower on only one occasion. I cannot remember exactly what I did not like about going from a forward gear to reverse,
but there was something.

All that I remember was that same task on my M.F. 65 was much easier/better.

I remember it seemed to me it was a poor excuse for live p.t.o.
 
Do you mean second on the transmission and low on the power director? That's where my D19 will jump out if I work it real hard. But I seldom work it that hard.
 
Had a d 15 on a brush cutter the shaft well keep turning you basically got to get lucky or stop the mower spinning. One thing with allis the mower will drive the tractor ahead until you shift the power director into neutral seen a guy go through a fence with a d 19 and a mixer mill the mill was running and he hit the clutch and the mill drove the rear end.
 
No .I wish I could explain it better but
when the clutch goes down hydraulic , pto
every thing is disconnected. As long as
there is no brake or you use the tractor
brakes or disconnect the power director the
momentum of the mower will push the tractor
rear end. It's probably similar to a fly
wheel on a baler . If you ever baled hay if
the tractor has live power and you shut the
baler down the flywheel well keep spinning
but the pto shaft will stop because the
brake on the live power will stop it.
However if you use a tractor without live
power the shaft well continue to spin
because there is no brake on the pto.
That is a nice 19 surprised it's got all
the tin . They were good tractors but
allis were a little different. It always
amazed me the horsepower they had .
 
I've always thought an IQ test could be developed around putting a person on an AC tractor with a Power Director and seeing how they figure things out and to reach the upper limits
hook it to an AC Roto Baler.(LOL)
 
Then there is the shift if I remember 1_2 ,3-5 ,4-6 ,7-8 so in theory you could shift down by shifting up . Allis had a lot of good ideas but some of them were ahead of there time.
 
I've got a D19 that is the newer model with factory 3pt lift. They are a pretty good tractor but I've never even considered it for either of those jobs. It's great for tillage or in the hay field but I prefer my Ford for post auger and my IH or Kubota for brush hog. That isn't a bad price if it runs and shifts good.
 
If that is your budget range you would be a lot happier with a 1650 Oliver. I had a 1650 gas that I put in a new clutch and sold it for $3600.
 
(quoted from post at 01:32:31 09/22/16) No .I wish I could explain it better but
when the clutch goes down hydraulic , pto
every thing is disconnected. As long as
there is no brake or you use the tractor
brakes or disconnect the power director the
momentum of the mower will push the tractor
rear end. It's probably similar to a fly
wheel on a baler . If you ever baled hay if
the tractor has live power and you shut the
baler down the flywheel well keep spinning
but the pto shaft will stop because the
brake on the live power will stop it.
However if you use a tractor without live
power the shaft well continue to spin
because there is no brake on the pto.
Click to expand...

That's what the overrunning coupler does, disconnects the spinning PTO shaft from the PTO connection at the tractor. The attachment can flywheel all it wants but doesn't effect the tractor. Early Ford guys know the ORC very well. I use one with all PTO driven implements on my 9N and 8N.
 
He won't be so happy when he tries to hook up the post hose digger- most that I've seen attach at the tractor end of the top "point", and are incompatible with Oliver's top link setup.
 
I overlooked the post auger part. I was thinking too much about the dumb a$$ ac pto system. A 1750/1800 Oliver has a single point 3rd link.
 
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