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Geo-TH,In

Geo-TH,In

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IS GAS ONLY, tricycle front end, cab, heat, AC, 72 inch or larger belly mower, power steering, comfortable seat like my old Farmall C, a nice radio, 30 hp range, 3 pt, live pto? Does anyone make a new tractor that will fill the list? This is only thing at present on my bucket list. Geo
 
It is a fairly easy answer - When the market research tells a company they would make money with such a tractor. It all comes down to the business case and a company will not develop something they could not sell in high enough quantities to pay off the investment in 2 to 3 years. Low quantities, which such a tractor would be, mean high production costs and also that a high per-unit profit is required, both of which add up to a relatively high price to the customer. How many folks would choose a gas 2WD tricycle if it wasn't much cheaper than a 4WD diesel, the kind that gets sold by the tens of thousands? Probably not enough to get into the black and therefore it is unlikely any company would be very interested in developing something like this. Keep in mind that a company's number one goal is to be profitable - if they aren't, they won't be around for long.
 
I can't find anything wrong with this one. I don't know why a person would want a gas engine over a diesel. It has a ninety inch finish mower, turns as short as a tricycle, four wheel drive, heater and AC, has stereo with even Blue Tooth, garage door opener on the visor and is narrow enough to scrape the side walks without running over the shrubbery. Just wished I had one when we were milking cows and had to pitch every forkful of manure on the spreader out of a large dairy barn.
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You just need to find someone to change out the motor and front end of most any compact tractor with mower built today. If it has a Yanmar motor you may be able to switch out the diesel for gas in the same footprint. Paul
 
I forgot one thing that I wish they would have had on this tractor is the parallel lift loader. You have to jump up two sizes before that option is available.
 
I doubt that anyone will dare make a narrow front tractor for sale in the US anymore.

The tort attorneys would have a field day.

Dean
 
That said, thanks to the federales, expect to see the return of gasoline engines in farm tractors.

Dean
 
My primary job is selling commercial trucks. I focus on new vehicles but sometimes we get calls for used stuff. Folks complain that no one makes manual trucks for their specs... and they are always the ones calling on used trucks. No one who makes equipment cares about the used market beyond residual values and parts supply.
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With the great deals on used equipment, you could pay a custom shop to fully restore a mid 50s IH and fabricate a cab with your other desires for less than what a new evil diesel wide front unit would run I'd bet. There are 3 point conversions for them and I think LPTO was available around that time, not on the C to my knowledge (but I'm pretty new to all this).
 
NO, much cooler today. Thanks for your concern about my health. No medical issues yet.

I don't get it, it's my bucket list tractor. Why is everyone is raining on my parade?

Add to my bucket tractor EFI with OBD. Diesel exhaust makes me sick.

Add a front blade to push snow, better than rear blade.

Tricycle and belly mower makes the best ZTR mower. If you doubt it, come see the how well my Farmall C mows the lawn. A few days ago, I had to make a small repair to mower deck. Boss refused to use the 48 inch John Deere GT275, she wanted to use the Farmall. Says it does the best. Now who want to argue with the Boss????

Jubilee has a wide front end. The outside wheel will damage grass in turn if I don't slow down. Not to mention wider turns.

I don't want to make the perfect tractor, I want to buy it.

I guess my only hope for a new gasser will be the EPA. Hope I live long enough. In a pinch I'll make my own tricycle front end. Definitely want the rest, especially the climate controlled cab. Grass mold makes me sick too. I also want to push snow in a warm cab.

Let me know when someone makes my bucket tractor.
geo
 
My 1950 Farmall C is restored, doesn't burn a drop of oil, no mechanical issues, no electrical issues, runs great. No climate controlled cab, no front blade, no 3 pt, no live PTO. Perfect ZTR mower with 72 inch belly mower.

I just want to buy a new tractor. Really don't care what it costs.
 
Diesel exaust fumes make us sick. Just driving down the highway we get enough to make us want to throw up. That make sence to you? If you have never been sick from it then you probably cannot understand but I have. One time when I went in to work after driving one they said I was green and thought they should take me to the dr. Gas does not do that.
 
George take out the Gas engine and narrow front and KUBOTA can pretty much fix you up. Keep hearing folks saying they want gas tractor but don,t think it will ever happen.
 
Tractors started out with wide front axles. Narrow fronts only existed because of corn pickers and mounted cultivators. Both implements have been dead for many many years, and so is the narrow front. I doubt any manufacturer will ever make a narrow front again.
 
LOL that's not a bucket list, that's a pipe dream. I mowed a guys place for him a couple of summers ago while he and his wife were with his mother in the last stages of cancer. Near new NH compact. Only way it could have been better was if it had a cab with AC. I've run a C. The seat on that NH was much nicer!

Rick
 
Many on YT don't get it. Diesel exhaust causes cancer. Some of us get sick. I get a throbbing headache instantly. I can't wait for small engines to be gas, 30 hp.
 
(quoted from post at 15:34:13 07/26/16) IS GAS ONLY, tricycle front end, cab, heat, AC, 72 inch or larger belly mower, power steering, comfortable seat like my old Farmall C, a nice radio, 30 hp range, 3 pt, live pto? Does anyone make a new tractor that will fill the list? This is only thing at present on my bucket list. Geo
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Gas only: EPA regulations have pretty much ensured that will never happen. Not only would they have to develop an engine, they would have to develop a complete emissions control system. Too expensive when you can buy a drop-in diesel engine with everything ready to go.

Tricycle front end: No company wants the liability associated with the first idiot who turns too short on a sidehill and dumps the tractor on its side.

Comfortable seat like your old Farmall C: If you think that's a comfortable seat, that might explain a few things.

Maybe try fitting an 86 series cab on a Super C?
 

Well, find 5,000 or 10,000 people that want the same thing and are willing to put money down on it. Go to a manufacturer with your specs, and tell them to build it. That's the only way a manufacturer is gonna build it.

Narrow front tractors became popular in the 30's and were dead by the mid 70's. Gasoline engines were pretty much done in the 70's in farm tractors, and the 80's for skid steers and swathers. You can get 30hp gasoline engines in lawn mowers today, but aren't likely to get narrow front with a cab with AC.

You asked when they were gonna build a tractor to your specs. most answered "never". Who doesn't get it?
 
Closest thing may be a Kubota compact but somehow you will still have to get a Kubota gas engine into it ? That should be doable. Narrow front ? if they still offered bi speed turn you may not need that ? Front end will be a tough one to concur.
 
(quoted from post at 06:55:14 07/27/16) I have a super c and it has very comfortable seat.
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You've never been a really comfortable seat then!


You can get a commercial JD front deck mower that will also mount a broom, blade of blower with a heated and AC cab. Only thin is it's diesel but the engine is behind you so it's not blowing in your face. http://www.deere.com/en_US/products/equipment/front_mowers/front_mowers.page?

Scroll to the bottom. That should handle all your mowing an snow issues with a very short turning radius!

Rick
 
Most of the time you WILL NOT be inside that cab with it closed, either outside or windows or doors open. And if inside with closed up you would need air conditioning turned on and that draws in outside air from the exaust to cool. The reason you don't notice it on most tractors with the cab and air is that the exaust comes out above top of cab, if the exaust was where it could pull into cab then think how sick you could get. That is why following something on the road you get all the fumes.
 
The narrow front is never going to happen but I would think a gas engine would be a good idea for small low hour use tractors. Just look at how advanced and simple gas engines have become in small cars. Virtually no emissions garbage on them anymore. But diesel engines are a different story. You have exhaust filters, EGR, DEF, turbos, sometimes two of them and the list goes on. So a small homeowners tractor with a gasoline four cylinder engine with efi and a catalytic converter would make a simple cheap machine to mow lawn and do other small jobs around the home.
 
Essex tri directional special order dept. Let me know when you get sample farm show. If you like I will get subscription. My way of paying for electrical work, and passing that darn physics cource.
 

Tricycle tractor? Only reason and only advantage is to mount a cultivator to skuffle corn or to mount a corn picker.
Gas ? If the EPA Rams through the Tier V emissions regulations . Manufactures may have to consider industrial versions of the Direct Injection Gas Engines now used in light off road equipment and small vehicles .
 
About only one I can think MIGHT have a tricycle front made today is a Mahindra from India- they made English pattern IHCs under license and developed from there, but had a variation of Super H/English B275,414s and a trike model for some front mounted equipment developed for C,H and Ms. Need to get to Mahindra site, see if it is still displayed in online catalog- had diesel,LP and gasoline engine options, narrow/single wheel and wide fronts in a 30 to 50hp range. RN
 
Already happening. My work makes gas powered brush chippers and uses the 89hp GM 3.0 4cyl and the 130hp 4.3 V6 to power them.
 
Your debt will never be paid. I should get part of your pension. Yes I did get the farm show. thanks geo.
 
(quoted from post at 07:43:17 07/27/16) Many on YT don't get it. Diesel exhaust causes cancer. Some of us get sick. I get a throbbing headache instantly. I can't wait for small engines to be gas, 30 hp.
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There are a lot of things that they claim cause cancer and I bet you have some of them in your house. I understand this is a wish list for a perfect tractor for you and that's OK by me. Our personal preferences in tractors couldn't be farther apart but that's what make the world an interesting place. Have a wonderful day.
 
Flash back to 1975 or 1976 you could of bought something really close ! JD4030 around 80hp ,GAS ,soundgard cab with all the works and the option to put a narrow front end on it too ! It meets everything on the list except the hp was higher. You may still can find one ,but they are RARE !
 
Everything causes cancer. Are you going to tell me that gas exhaust does nothing. I'd bet that more people have died from CO exhaust than will ever die from cancer due to diesel exhaust.
A new tier 4b diesel engine has almost no exhaust smell to it at all. I'd say most of the time, it doesn't have any exhaust smell at all.
 
(quoted from post at 07:31:46 07/27/16) Most of the time you WILL NOT be inside that cab with it closed, either outside or windows or doors open. And if inside with closed up you would need air conditioning turned on and that draws in outside air from the exaust to cool. The reason you don't notice it on most tractors with the cab and air is that the exaust comes out above top of cab, if the exaust was where it could pull into cab then think how sick you could get. That is why following something on the road you get all the fumes.
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If it were such a problem there would be an epidemic of dead people found inside the cabs of their compact tractors.

Because, I guarantee you anyone with one of those fancy modern cabs isn't running with the windows and doors open, sweltering or freezing depending on what time of year it is. They are sealed up all nice inside with the A/C or heat blasting.
 
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