Good deal on 2 inch 10,000# ratchet straps

Geo-TH,In · Jul 3, 2016

Menards has a special on ratchet straps. Is there anything wrong with using these straps to strap a tractor on a trailer? I didn't see any approved DOT#s on strap.

Dick2 · Jul 3, 2016

I think that they very carefully use a static load test to come up with a number that they can put on the straps (if they do that). However, a shock load of stopping and starting with a tractor on a trailer is probably going to exceed the rated load capacity. I would advise against using the straps.

Also, the rated load capacity is going to go down with age, the way the straps are stored and they way the straps are used.

markct · Jul 3, 2016

All depends how big of a tractor.

john in la · Jul 3, 2016

First off working load limit is different than breaking strength.
WLL can be no more than 1/3 of breaking strength so those straps are good for 3333lbs max.
May even be less depending on the ratchet part.
If that paper tag ever falls off they are only good for 2000lbs because there is no way to prove how strong they are.

Second straps are good tie downs.
Problem is most people want to wrap the strap over or around metal parts.
This causes abrasion possibilities at the point they both meet.
You can use abrasion point preventers but most people do not take this extra step.

But that is a good price for that size strap.

ztrmower · Jul 3, 2016

thats common price about anywhere now for 2x27ft witho ut the send in form bought some last month 6.95

Bryce Frazier · Jul 3, 2016

I don't like them for tractors. Seems like I can never get them QUITE tight enough.

LOVE them for Hay, restored things, wood, etc. Anything that you need the wider surface area / contact point, and don't want to scratch up, or tear ruts in with a chain. . . . .

Great for somethings, not so for others!

gene bender · Jul 3, 2016

DOT anything on tires chains so be careful where you go with straps it can get costly. Use chains and be safe.

old · Jul 3, 2016

I some times use straps but no matter what I have at least 2 chains on but having a class A CDL one has to do thing by D.O.T. standards or you can get in trouble. Learned years ago I could get in trouble even if I was not the one doing the driving. Had a friend with a CDL get a ticket for not having a load chained do the correct way and all he was doing was riding along with a guy who had picked up some equipment

Geo-TH,In · Jul 3, 2016

Old, Did the dot stop you on an Interstate, city streets or back roads?

BTW, please post a link to how loads are to be properly chained. I don't have a need for a CDL. I've never been stopped either, I'm 67 too. Never read how do to things the legal way either. I just use common sense and a little physics when I strap my loads. Never lost a load either. geo

old · Jul 3, 2016

I do not have a link but you can find out how just by going to your state D.O.T. web site. As for being stopped it has been a long time since I have been stopped but every time I was stopped no matter what the guy or gal would find something wrong even if it was a simple light not working and on big rigs if it has a light it has to work or you get a ticket

john in la · Jul 3, 2016

Lots of people have a hard time understanding the wording of the state D.O.T. web site so since you have a class A CDL and seem to know about the subject could you explain to us in laymen terms.............

How or When straps do not DOT standards.

And under what conditions a passenger can get a ticket for the operation of a vehicle.

Brendon-KS · Jul 3, 2016

Here's a link to the dot.gov website concerning tie-downs. From the way I read it there are no rules against using straps and it also specifically states that tie-down devices are not required to have DOT markings.
DOT Cargo Securement Rules

Mark-Ia · Jul 3, 2016

I only use straps to tie my tractor on my trailer. Never had a problem.

old · Jul 3, 2016

I have not driven for over 16 years now but as for a guy riding alone getting a ticket it is simple . He he is there he is libel after the fact simple as that just like if you see a murder and you know who did it your libel after the fact. D.O.T. reg change a lot over the years and I have not kept up with them for out of state stuff since I do not drive out of Missouri any more. Or in other words if you want to know what regs are you have to check them out for your self since they are not the same in every state.

Geo-TH,In · Jul 3, 2016

Brendon, thanks for your reply. I copied the first two lines.

Cargo Securement Rules

Background

On September 27, 2002, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) published new cargo securement rules. Motor carriers operating in interstate commerce must comply with the new requirements beginning January 1, 2004.

Notice the key words, Motor carriers operating in interstate commerce must comply.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOO if I'm not a motor carrier and I'm not operating in interstate commerce, Does any of this really apply to an individual towing his tractor form one property to another using back roads and city street?

Perhaps this is why I never see cops stopping people for not having backhoes tied down on a trailer?

Would someone post a link for securing loads for an individual that is not operating in interstate commerce?

geo.

markct · Jul 3, 2016

It does and it doesn't Geo, your using the tractor for business in the eyes of the law since you are maintaining your rental properties and such thus your a motor carrier, and many states adopt the federal regulations as there own in state regulations too. But the bottom line is that if you should find yourself in an accident and said machine comes undone causing injury, I would want to be able to prove that it was secured to the industry standard which would be the DOT generally.

504 · Jul 3, 2016

Some states use their own laws and regulations,most are now using the Federal Standards. Our two inch straps at work are rated at 3500 working load. (tagged new) If you use a strap or chain on all four corner, and one around the loader bucket, there is almost no chance of a ticket.

D beatty · Jul 4, 2016

Those 2" straps might be alright for a lawn mower or small items. But for larger tractors and large items I would use nothing less than a 3" approved strap. I hardly never use straps on tractor but do use them on lumber or anything that a chain might damage in transport. When you roll out unto the road be it county, state or interstate you are responsible for that load and makes no difference if your transporting your private items or your a commercial carrier. On some of those cheap straps the nylon strap might be rated for 10,000lbs but ratchet may be rated for only 3,500-4,500lbs.

T in NE · Jul 4, 2016

I don't see how libel can come into DOT regulation.

T in NE · Jul 4, 2016

If it's tightened properly there is no shock load. Unless the hauling vehicle comes to a very abrupt stop.

Geo-TH,In · Jul 4, 2016

D beatty ,

TOTALLY AGREE, When you roll out unto the road be it county, state or interstate you are responsible for that load and makes no difference if your transporting your private items or your a commercial carrier. In Indiana we are required to have insurance too. I can see where I can and should get a ticket if something falls off my truck or trailer, that's common sense.

Would someone please post a link describing how we are to secure our loads if we are transporting private items. In the past some have said we can't use rub rails and stake pockets. I would like to see proper and safe procedures in writing.

FYI, I use 2 chains and 6 straps to secure my loads. I have attached chains on both ends of straps so the strap can't get damaged rubbing against any metal.

geo.

Stephen Newell · Jul 4, 2016

That's why I prefer to use chain when hauling a vehicle.

Stephen Newell · Jul 4, 2016

I meant to reply to the post not T in NE.

markct · Jul 4, 2016

Works just fine to use the DOT standard geo, it's the industry standard and what most states follow. No reason to do it any different just cause you think you are not a commercial hauler

D beatty · Jul 4, 2016

Geo. I can't really find any regulations saying how a person carrying their private items is to tie them down. Myself personally I chain or strap down every thing the same way I would if I were hauling commercially. That way there is no question if I am right or wrong and don't have worry about what route I take or stay away from areas that are known to be patrolled heavy by police.

old · Jul 4, 2016

Like with any laws if your there and you know the law is being broken in some way you can be held libel and that includes how something is chain down

john in la · Jul 4, 2016

So if you and me are riding in a car.
You are driving and I am a passenger.
You are speeding.
I know you are speeding.
So the cop can write a ticket to both of us because you were speeding?
You do not really believe that do you?

buickanddeere · Jul 4, 2016

I wonder what would happen if they were used to hoist a 5 ton load ?

old · Jul 4, 2016

Again it also depends on what law. In the case of me riding with some one hauling a tractor and we get stopped due to it not being chained down the correct way and the cop starts asking question yes I could in fact get a ticket due to having a CDL. Now if it likely a D.O.T. officer will pull over the guy hauling a tractor that is doing it for him self ya not likely but if that same guy gets into a n accident and there are people hurt then he will be paying big time due to not having things chained down the correct way. Also has to do with the cop him slef some can be okay and other will try to get a person just of be doing so

Good deal on 2 inch 10,000# ratchet straps

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