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Was out looking for a survey pin with the metal detector the other day and found these along a fence line, any ideas?
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Look like they are from some horse harness.
Probably for the trace chains I would guess.
I don't know anything about harness though.
 

I was thinking something harness related as well but they are not like anything I have on my wagon or sleigh.
These look like they would go on the end of an inch or so round piece of wood, the flat piece down the center seems sharp like it was designed to split into the wood to hold it in place.
The one with the hook hinged looks like it is for a larger piece of wood.
 
Thanks to all for your knowledge.
Yes they are hooks for a single tree.
I have never seen cast ones like this before.
Probably went through a few hundred images till I found some that looked the same.
 
They are trace hooks that go on the ends of the wood pieces, about 2 feet long. Each horse had one under it's neck and from these a neck yoke was hung from the center of these which had a ring on the bottom of it which supported the wagon tongue. The round hole in these is where the wood part went in should be about 1 1/2"dia or less. No way you would be able to use these at the rear of the horse unless you enjoyed making neck yokes. No way would they be strong enough for use as a single tree or double tree,eveners or as they are called in this area, "whipple tree" which are built much stronger
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(quoted from post at 14:38:36 06/12/16) They are trace hooks that go on the ends of the wood pieces, about 2 feet long. Each horse had one under it's neck and from these a neck yoke was hung from the center of these which had a ring on the bottom of it which supported the wagon tongue. The round hole in these is where the wood part went in should be about 1 1/2"dia or less. No way you would be able to use these at the rear of the horse unless you enjoyed making neck yokes. No way would they be strong enough for use as a single tree or double tree,eveners or as they are called in this area, "whipple tree" which are built much stronger
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Dave I appreciate you sharing your knowledge.
What you say makes a lot of sense.
The one thing I have not wrapped my mind around is, why are two of them fixed hooks and the third on a swivel?
Should I go back and do some looking for additional parts?
 
(quoted from post at 04:11:43 06/12/16) Was out looking for a survey pin with the metal detector the other day and found these along a fence line, any ideas?
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I believe they are the ends from whiffle trees (single trees) used on teams of horses. Somewhere around the place , I have similar complete pieces including the wood as well as a bunch of leather harness. Haven't looked at them in a few years, tho.

I was able to "google up" some that are very similar.

http://www.laurelleaffarm.com/draft-horse-single-trees.htm
 
(quoted from post at 15:38:36 06/12/16) They are trace hooks that go on the ends of the wood pieces, about 2 feet long. Each horse had one under it's neck and from these a neck yoke was hung from the center of these which had a ring on the bottom of it which supported the wagon tongue. The round hole in these is where the wood part went in should be about 1 1/2"dia or less. No way you would be able to use these at the rear of the horse unless you enjoyed making neck yokes. No way would they be strong enough for use as a single tree or double tree,eveners or as they are called in this area, "whipple tree" which are built much stronger
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I say you are at the wrong end of the horse. These are the ends of a single tree which the tail end of the tugs fasten to. Neck yokes have rings. These were probably on singles trees for a cultivator .
Whipple tree are a u shaped tree that was used mostly to pull hay up into a barn with a single horse.
Before you say I do not know, let me say I use this stuff all the time as I do drive horses and mules and do know harness and how things hook up.
 
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