Isn't what it's cracked up to be.

Geo-TH,In · May 17, 2016

Sheriff Clark Cottom said, "We cannot afford to have water coming in on any of that emergency equipment."

Water is leaking through in office spaces and in some of the cells. The jail was built in the 1980's and the metal roof just isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Link to full story. No idea what they replaced the roof with. Does anyone know?
full story

Moonlite37 · May 17, 2016

Good materials and poor installation.

Adirondack case guy · May 17, 2016

George,
Give us a break and post your OT stuff down on Talers where it belongs.
Loren, the Acg.

Geo-TH,In · May 17, 2016

Give me a break. You may not like what I have to say, but you should respect what I have to say or just not read it. Turn me into the YT police and see what they say. George

Ray · May 17, 2016

Our two year old jail is leaking and now there talking about spending 100 grand to fix it.

Adirondack case guy · May 17, 2016

Ok, Hilary.

Greg K · May 17, 2016

2 kinds of concrete. Concrete that is cracked and concrete that is going to cracked. You could probably say a similar thing about roofs, leaders and gonna leak.

Brown Swiss · May 17, 2016

George who ever put the tin on did not do a good job, if someone did a bad job on shingling it, it would leak also! Simply strait to the point.

Dick2 · May 17, 2016

Or they could simply buy a couple cans of that stuff that they are advertising on TV and seal up all of the leaks.

Putting on a new roof and then charging an outrageous price to stop the leaks is a contractor's old game that they pull quite often.

Stephen Newell · May 17, 2016

Send em a can of Flex Seal.

bwillett · May 17, 2016

Hate to say it,Adirondack Guy, but I agree with Geo. If you want on topic, stay on the Case board. This is just as much a Coffee Shop as Tales.....

rrc300 u · May 17, 2016

I don't post much.I read here alot ....that said I know you are not a fan of metal roofing. The fact is metal roofs have been around alot longer than shingle/asphalt they hold up very well when installed properly. My brother just had some of his replaced and the back of the old panels said the warranty expired in 1963. I would say his roof is 50 yaers out of warranty and not leaking he replaced it when he added on to the house. He has no clue when it was put on. Also I don't know of too many people that brag online about waiting for a hail storm so the insurance company can buy them a new shingle roof. To me that sounds like a material that can't hold up to its environment.

wisbaker · May 17, 2016

the county I worked for built a new jail, it leaked from day one. They used Firestone EDPM (rubber roofing) the Firestone warranty is a trick, it reads something like "we'll fix if if we say it was our fault, but if we don't say it's our fault you have to pay for the service call, if you don't pay for the service call we cancel your warranty". Those darn Firestone roofers are so good they can tell you it isn't their fault with out even getting out of the truck, heck sometimes they don't even have to stop the truck, they can roll through the parking lot and look at the building and know it's not their fault. If you don't pay the bill then you don't have a warranty, they do a couple of the roll through service calls , collect enough money then they'll actually fix the roof. But of course by that time you've already paid for the "warranty repairs" a couple times over. You can sue Firestone, but only in Indiana where they're located, sue them any where else and they cancel the warranty.

I contracted a roof repair while I worked for the county. I wrote in the RFP that the county would pay 90% of the price at completion and the other 10% would only be paid after 90 days of leak free roof performance, quite a few roofers balked at that job. The one that bid it somehow managed to get the roof done right the first time.

Bonnan · May 17, 2016

Poor workmanship......I had many EDPM Carlise rubber roofs installed on commercial and industrial bldgs. Stay on top of job, constant inspections and ask questions.
No problems thereafter.

Pair-a-dice farm · May 17, 2016

OK already we get it. You hate metal roofs. That's great if that's the way you believe. There are plenty of folks that have had bad experience with a shingle roof. More than likely both types were installed wrong. Either way the result will be bad. It boils down to poor workmanship.

Ken Macfarlane · May 17, 2016

Article says leaks at each horizontal line. Building looks to be lowish slope. Bad overlap? I've always had the cut to length sheets installed. Problems I've had were all fasteners and not following the instructions to install in valleys. Every roof since changing to valleys has been water tight.

Dave Sherburne, NY · May 17, 2016

My house has standing seam metal roofing on the back part of my house. I ripped a porch off the front of the house that had the same kind of roof in good condition. When I took if off, I found printed on the back Guaranteed until 1928 and the name of the guy who put it on needless to say he has been deceased for a long long time. I did put a coat of some kind of liquid roof coating on it last year'

RBoots · May 17, 2016

Middle school, St Johns, MI. New building in 1997. Shingle roof, leaked from day 1!! Had trash cans in every hall way to collect water when it rained. Was like that for many years, for some reason they couldn't get the contracting company to fix it. Had to fix it years later after it had ruined a lot of stuff between the roof and the cieling. Has a rubber roof installed at the building I work out of 2 years ago. 124,000 dollars. Didn't leak when it rained at first. But,once it got snow and ice stuck to it, it started leaking, then leaked when it rained after that. Has a 50 year warranty. They've been back to fix it for leaks SEVERAL times. Haven't seen them in 6 months or so, so maybe they finally dumped enough tar or silicone up there to seal it up for a bit. Just put a metal roof on my house, not quite done with the garage, seems to be working very well. But, I'm also overly cautious when I install that type of stuff, and also very meticulous. I spent an entire day with strings and cedar shake shingles shimming the furring strip on one side of my house so it was perfectly level, no dips. The other side didn't take as long, but those are the things you must do to have it be correct.

Ross

Traditional Farmer · May 17, 2016

I have a barn and a house on my farm that each has the original metal roof on them,both built before 1900.Have a chicken shed I built by myself when I was 12 years old
back in 1964 with a metal roof,so far so good.Guess maybe the sheriff needs to find a 12 year old to put the roof on for him(LOL)

retired farmer · May 17, 2016

Sounds more like maybe the sheriff should get off his lazy butt and go buy a bucket of roofing tar and get up on the roof and patch the leaks instead of just sitting in the office complaining about the roof leaking. Doesn't sound like anybody has tried that.

dlbuck · May 17, 2016

Well said. You hit the nail on the metal roof head.

fixerupper · May 17, 2016

Well, OK, I'll add to the fracas. The gymnasium on the school I went to was built with a domed steel roof in 1954. When I started school in 1957 the roof had a couple of leaks, not bad leaks but you don't want water on a gym floor. Today that gymnasium is an auction house. It has the same roof it had in 1954 and it still has a couple of leaks. A shingled or rubber roof would have been replaced multiple times in 62 years for big money but this old steel roof with a couple of leaks is still hanging in there. I am sure there has been some tar work done in several places over the years but that is cheaper than several roof replacements.

Ian Beale · May 18, 2016

Geo-TH,In

You realise that if metal roofing was this bad almost ALL buildings in Oz are naked?

Geo-TH,In · May 18, 2016

Ian,
Most here are on YT are Donalds, they resort to bullying ta tics instead of really addressing the real issue. WHAT REALLY CAUSED THE ROOF FAILURE?

It hard to get in site here, only poor installation, sheriff sitting on his butt.

The video on the news showed all the panels were rusty, plywood had mold so did the insulation.

All roof have something in common, moisture. All roofs need ventilation. Where are the air vents? eve vents? roof vents? ridge vents? Power vents? How do you get the trapped moisture from between the plywood the metal?

On the way home, I went past a metal roof that has been covered with tarps. Well, two guys were removing the old roof, exposed the rafters and perlins, both were dark with water damage. They were screwing new barn siding on the roof. Are these guys fixing the issue? Was there problem condensation, fastener failed or something?

Wish people commenting would discuss the issue instead of saying I'm a metal hater. You may be surprised what I really think.
George

Bret4207 · May 19, 2016

(quoted from post at 13:38:22 05/18/16) Ian,
Most here are on YT are Donalds, they resort to bullying ta tics instead of really addressing the real issue. WHAT REALLY CAUSED THE ROOF FAILURE?

It hard to get in site here, only poor installation, sheriff sitting on his butt.

The video on the news showed all the panels were rusty, plywood had mold so did the insulation.

All roof have something in common, moisture. All roofs need ventilation. Where are the air vents? eve vents? roof vents? ridge vents? Power vents? How do you get the trapped moisture from between the plywood the metal?

On the way home, I went past a metal roof that has been covered with tarps. Well, two guys were removing the old roof, exposed the rafters and perlins, both were dark with water damage. They were screwing new barn siding on the roof. Are these guys fixing the issue? Was there problem condensation, fastener failed or something?

Wish people commenting would discuss the issue instead of saying I'm a metal hater. You may be surprised what I really think.
George

Could be worse George, they could be Hillarys and just plain old lie.

Any roof can be put on wrong. I prefer metal to shingles, others may not. I can point to many, many buildings with leaking shingle roofs and many, many metal roofs that don't leak at all, are quiet, are well vented and look great. In the end it's the guy putting it on that determines how the roof performs, but metal is always going to outlast shingles by at least 3x given proper installation of each.

Pair-a-dice farm · May 19, 2016

I never realized that having a different opinion on a type of roofing was a form of bullying. Learn something new every day.

1948CaseVAI · May 19, 2016

(quoted from post at 17:38:13 05/17/16) Give me a break. You may not like what I have to say, but you should respect what I have to say or just not read it. Turn me into the YT police and see what they say. George

The problem with the "don't read it" solution is that the title of the thread did not indicate what it was about. If you would title it something like "Another rant about metal roofing" then folks could have a fair chance to decide to read it or not.

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