Advice on bigger equipment

Bonnan

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My son has an opportunity to pick up a Koehring 6614 excavator (~1990 mfg) and a Case 1105 dozer (late'70's) for $18000. Seller will deliver to our farm. This stuff is out of my league so any opinions/comments would be helpful. We need ditch work and a pond built so we thought this might be useful.
 
If you have use for it, go for it.

If I could pick up a D-8 Cat for a reasonable price, I could go berserk on my acreage.
 
Find someone who knows that kind of equipment, to look it over, especially measure track wear. Tracks are money pits. I B Dozing or crawler heaven dot com.- track specs.
 
If it is in good shape and you need it sounds like a good deal. At that price for relatively new equipment I have my doubts on condition. And don't forget big equipment is big repairs, pumps or final drives can run thousands or tens of thousands just for parts on large excavators. Also every repair needs other equipment, change a cylinder or sprocket and you need another machine to do the lifting. I have worked on many large machines, and owned a few, and I must admit my little Daewoo mini excavator is a nice break from the heavy hoisting involved in maintaining large machines.
 
Depends on how much work you have to do and as JMS says track wear. If you don't have a lot of work to do, 40/50 hours a year or so track wear isn't nearly as important as if you are going to be running hundreds of hours a year. In any case if you don't know much or anything about track this is a time when a few dollars spent hiring someone who knows what to look for to look this stuff over.

Rick
 
Not sure about the dozer, but the 6614 I would find a dealer first they haven't been made in a long time. They didn't make a lot of 14s either. Some parts are common,but some our dealer parts. The 14 isn't a real big machine but if it suits you that's great. Seems like a lot of dollars for the two, but I don't know what that dozer would be worth. I myself would shy away from the 6614 unless I knew it was cheap enough if I couldn't get parts for it.. just my 2 cents.
 
If this is for farm use and not many hours it would be cheaper to rent a machine.
I hauled an 850 case dozer of a guy. The levers for the directional movement were terrible. I would hold out for an old 50's something cat dozer. The cat has parts available and much more durable machine. The excavator I know nothing about. I do know the old hein-werners are hard to get some parts for.
 
If it were me, I would either rent the equipment to dig a ditch and build a pond, or get quotes from excavation contractors. Construction equipment usually has had a hard life and repairing it is really expensive. With limited use as I assume from your post, buying old equipment makes no sense to me.
 
Been buying and selling construction equipment for over 50 years and that price for those two pieces is outrageous in these parts. Both of those units are very old. If I were going to spend 18 grand I would find something newer.
 
I've seen 3 D-7's with hydraulic blades for under 5000$ with good tracks the last month. One had a winch on the back too. They are too big for harry homeowner and too slow/old for real contractors.
 
Thanks for the quick replies. This will give me some ammunition to keep my son from getting in over his head. I get so much more out of this site than I give that it humbles me.
 
Also don't forget that around the farm a excavator does 95 percent of what a dozer did, and better, I would take that 18000 and put it towards a better excavator
 
I did UC work for a long time and Koehring equipment was hard to get UC parts for, if needed. I believe the last one I did, I had to buy the correct pitch sprocket rims for some other machine, and weld them onto the original hub of the old sprockets. The P&B's were from some other machine that happened to have same diameter pins abs bushings and "close enough" length on the pins and bushings. Over all hard to find Koehring parts.

Ross
 
(quoted from post at 09:11:48 05/06/16) With limited use as I assume from your post, buying old equipment makes no sense to me.

That just seems like an odd comment on a board for old tractors! :shock:

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 13:22:32 05/06/16) Also don't forget that around the farm a excavator does 95 percent of what a dozer did, and better, I would take that 18000 and put it towards a better excavator

Ditto , If you can afford $18k you could also afford to buy something nicer that will hold its value , use it for 100 hours and resell if for about what you paid originally .

From the comments here , it sounds like your $18K might cost you in maintenance and a 30% loss or more on resale .
 
Heavyequipmentfourms has a lot of knowledgeable members that can point out the good and bad of those machines.

My logic is if you buy an older machine and work it to the limits it will get expensive quick.
Buy something bigger than what you need, give it an easy life and there is a better chance it will last for years.
 

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