Anybody have experience with a combine with a bagger. My Dad had a pull type JD combine with a bagger in the late 50's-early 60's when I was little. Don't know what model it was but it had a motor on it - only remember Dad saying it wouldn't start when it as hot. My mother used to ride on the bagging platform and tie the bags when they were full. They went into a chute and when there were a few of them the end gate could be opened and drop them on the ground. At the end of the day he would run around with the truck and load them up. Dad finally traded it for an AC66 and no more bagging.I'd hate to do 100's of acres that way.Today you couldn't even find the bags if you had one of those machines.
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Southern Ray
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reminds me of the time when yields were spoken in terms of sacks per acre.
each sack of maize was about 100 lbs.
30 to 35 sacks per acre was good, 40 sacks and more- bills were paid and momma drove a new car.
each sack of maize was about 100 lbs.
30 to 35 sacks per acre was good, 40 sacks and more- bills were paid and momma drove a new car.
Dad had a 12-A John Deere combine, and although it had a grain tank he bagged the grain off the unload auger and piled the bags on a flat rack. He then would pull the wagon up on the barn drive floor and dump the bags in the granary. He said he couldn't afford a gravity wagon at the time.
Donald Lehman
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Yeah, I did as a kid. Dirty, itchy, filthy job. Being covered with that filthy itching oat dust never seemed to bother my grandfather and father. It about drove me insane. Oat dust still does today.
Traditional Farmer
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- Location
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I've rode a lot of miles bagging on an Allis Chalmers combine,about the dirtiest job you can hope to find.
Dad bought a #25 Deere combine new in 1954, back then near all got bagged,One of my first chores was to lift the PTO lever on the "60" and watch for the guy holding the bag to give a nod to single me to stop,, I still Love to hear the 60 PTO whine. We had a grainery that was built just right for the old F-600 flat bed to back up to and walk the bags into the bins.,, I can still tie a Miller's Knot, which is what was used back then, you could hold the bag with one hand,as you pulled the knot loose to dump the bag...I don't know of any one that had the bagger on the machine, the one that let a few bags slid down to the ground to be picked up latter. We used the first 3 new 953's with flat beds to haul the most of it,, we still have the original wagons, they must have a million miles on them, but still in service.
coonie minnie
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Most likely the combine was a 12a, but I think the sacker was available on 25s and possibly 30s as well.
Jaden
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- Location
- Eastern Nebraska
Here in Eastern Nebraska, I have never seen a bagger combine. Must have been different grain marketing.
I think it would be as bad as picking up small square bales off the ground,,I don't understand that concept at all,,walking around and picking it all up from the ground??? With the bags around here no one was set up for anything else at that time...I remember counting and bunching bags up getting ready to start the day.
john in Utah
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What memories! My dad and uncle farmed together in '49. Uncle had a case combine with a bagger. Fortunately, I was too small to help, but was always in the field hanging-out (getting in the way). I recall playing on the piles of full bags. Neighbor had a semi and did the hauling. Took two guys on the ground to throw up the full bags and another one, at least, on the deck dragging and stacking. This was oats, so, guessing, a full bag probably weighed around 70 lbs. As already mentioned by several posters, a hotter, itchier, more tiring job would have been hard to imagine. However, no one had to go to yoga class and no one was fat!
Richard G.
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I remember that. Loaded the bags on trucks at the end of the day and put them on a big wrap around concrete porch on Grandma's house.
I have an Allis 40 All Crop now that I am going to put the sacker attachment back on.
Richard in NW SC
I have an Allis 40 All Crop now that I am going to put the sacker attachment back on.
Richard in NW SC
Hope I have this right. Some how my dad got the idea it would be really cost effective to grow a crop of Barley. Now this is used in beer making correct? SO anyway he raised a whole field of this stuff and made the space over the shop into a grainery. Just enough space to fill it almost to the top and not spill through the walls down into the shop. He blew it up there with the AC silage blower. I HAVE NEVER EVER ITCHED SO MUCH IN MY ENTIER LIFE!!!!!! I had to help and was in the blast path and dust of this stuff. Every time I smell that smell that smells like barley I start to itch!! I have smelled it a couple of times out in Lancaster county area and here and there over the years. It is amazing how powerful a smell can be almost 50 years later! Any of you guys have one like this?
Brian G. NY
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Wow...that brings back some memories.
A neighbor farmer hired me (at .75 an hour) to ride his combine in the fall of '58 when I was a mere 17.
It was an Oliver with it's own little 4 cyl. water cooled engine and he pulled it with his recently acquired WD-45 Allis.
We did all of his oats plus a couple other farms.
The weather was hot so I didn't wear a shirt. The first hour or so I would itch like crazy but after that I didn't even notice. The hills around here are very steep so in one direction I had to hold the bag on the platform with my foot.
By the end of the day I had a thick coat of black dust and it sure did feel good to jump in the "crik" to rinse off.
Not sure I still remember how to tie a "miller's knot" but probably could. We were very poor and that .75 an hour seemed like a lot to me at the time. Without those wages I never would have been able to go on our Senior trip to Washington D.C. the following spring.
Thanks for reminding me of "the good ol' days!
A neighbor farmer hired me (at .75 an hour) to ride his combine in the fall of '58 when I was a mere 17.
It was an Oliver with it's own little 4 cyl. water cooled engine and he pulled it with his recently acquired WD-45 Allis.
We did all of his oats plus a couple other farms.
The weather was hot so I didn't wear a shirt. The first hour or so I would itch like crazy but after that I didn't even notice. The hills around here are very steep so in one direction I had to hold the bag on the platform with my foot.
By the end of the day I had a thick coat of black dust and it sure did feel good to jump in the "crik" to rinse off.
Not sure I still remember how to tie a "miller's knot" but probably could. We were very poor and that .75 an hour seemed like a lot to me at the time. Without those wages I never would have been able to go on our Senior trip to Washington D.C. the following spring.
Thanks for reminding me of "the good ol' days!
Roger Tomfohrde
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What I remember with dads IH was the bagger on that one collected the chaff so he did not lose any light kernels. He would drop them off when the 40 bu tank got full and we would run around with a small trailer and pick up the bags and feed it to the cows on top of the silage. Yeah it was itchy. He had to have wagons scattered around the field because he could not make it around on a 40 bushel tank it was so small.
Dad had a John Deere 12A combine with a bagger. It had a John Deere LUC motor on it. It had the chute to put the bags on and when the chute had 2 or 3 bags on it then would release the bags. I remember riding the bagger when I was too young to do anything except switch the flapper from one bag to the other. When both bags were full I would get Dad's attention and he would stop the tractor and come back and tie the bags and hang empty ones. I remember once having trouble getting Dad's attention and by the time I got him stopped both bags were level full.
Hendrik
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We would get the attention of the driver of the noisy tractor by tying a length of baling twine to his arm and leading this wire aft to the person behind or on the implement, who pulled on the twine to get the driver's attention. (We used weathered twine so it would break when snagged. Do not ask me why.)
my granpa had a mm bagger with a Wisconsin motor ,,. never saw it run ,,. dad said it was bought during the war about 1944 ,, AND HE PROBABLY PAID FOR IT with money he sent home rom soldier pay in the pacific ..we used to play on it as kids.. I learned bits and pieces over the yrs a few yrs .after the war a rift developed about the combine ,,. dad wanted to bring it to his farm ,at indiana .,since my granpa was not raising small grains anymore and lived in ky ,., and he always said dad helpt pay for it.. but my uncle insisted he needed it to combine his grain ,..so dad yielded and went out and bought a new a-6 case bin machine and a sc CASE .. he custom combined and paid for both pces with money to spare in 2 yrs
Oh how I love to read these post on here. It brings back old memories. The old man bought a new JD 12A combine in 1949 it had a LUC gas motor on it and it was right under the seat of the bagger . The combine cost 1750 dollars if I remember right. and the old man thought he could pull it in hill country with a F14 Farmall tractor. The dealer delivered it to the farm with a new JD A and Ryan the dealer talked the old man into buying the tractor. I think the JD A cost 2000 dollars. The combine had a scour cleaner on it. that made good chicken feed. What a hot dusty job riding that thing. How I hated it. I wasn't old enough to drive the JD A but I could handle those heavy bags of wheat. Was glad to get away from that thing and today I would walk a mile just to watch one run again. One more thing about that thing. It was hard to start and most impossible to start hot. We used to let it run when we went to dinner. LOL
Bob in Australia
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All combines here until the 1960s had bagging shutes and most combines were Australian built. Sadly no combines made here in the last 30 years.
Full bags were grouped in the paddock and loaded onto flat bed trucks using a Gwell hydraulic bag loader. It lifted the bag from ground level to shoulder height on the truck. The person loading the truck took it from the loader on the shoulder and 'lumped' it around the truck, building a stack about 7 bags high on the truck. Bags were delivered to the local silo (elevator) and rail freighted and exported in bags. Often there were enormous bag stacks at the local silo, again built by 'lumpers' which was incredibly hard work.
In the late 1950s, we gradually switched to a bulk delivery grain system.
Full bags were grouped in the paddock and loaded onto flat bed trucks using a Gwell hydraulic bag loader. It lifted the bag from ground level to shoulder height on the truck. The person loading the truck took it from the loader on the shoulder and 'lumped' it around the truck, building a stack about 7 bags high on the truck. Bags were delivered to the local silo (elevator) and rail freighted and exported in bags. Often there were enormous bag stacks at the local silo, again built by 'lumpers' which was incredibly hard work.
In the late 1950s, we gradually switched to a bulk delivery grain system.
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