PTO jump start

Ron Muhlenkamp · Mar 11, 2016

On occasion, I have to tow-start a tractor. Hard to do when you're working alone.
I've considered getting two PTO hydraulic pumps and using one as a motor to
Jump start the second tractor thru the PTO shafts. Has anybody tried this or see reasons it wouldn't work?

Russ from MN · Mar 11, 2016

It would probably be cheaper to just fix the starting problem!

vscummins · Mar 11, 2016

There's a video on you tube of a guy using a tie down Strap wrapped around the pto shaft of a mower hooked to the tractor then he pulls the strap with a 4 wheeler and starts the tractor . Now the rent a OSHA department officers on here will probably loose there mind over it but I think If you were careful it could work .

Brendon Warren · Mar 11, 2016

I've seen the Amish neighbor wrap a rope around the belt pulley and pull it with the horses like a big rewind rope.

notjustair · Mar 11, 2016

There's also a video of a guy doing it with two Farmalls back to back with a short shaft. One of them is a repower of some sort with a manual transmission behind the engine. He can put that one in reverse so that the shaft can run backwards.

I would think your biggest problem would be having a hydraulic motor with enough torque to turn that pto. It would be tough as that tractor would be the one engaged and have to overcome that initial "whump". Honestly, I'd be more inclined to find a set of cables.

DeltaRed · Mar 11, 2016

Not much different than belting up a JD 2 banger.However it wouldnt work on some(if not all) live/independent pto tractors

farmerwithmutt · Mar 11, 2016

Heard that story before also the horse had it fairly out and the tractor backfired the horse wouldn't go near a tractor after that

led · Mar 11, 2016

My brother used Ford starter rigged up to pto on a 1937 F12 so he wouldn't have to crank start the tractor.
Led

Brown Swiss · Mar 11, 2016

My grandfather used his 881 Ford to start some from the pto, borrowed the pto from the Gehl feed mill.

Gene Davis (Ga.) · Mar 11, 2016

There used to be a dairy farmer here in the 1950's that had a John Deere model "A" that was about a 1943 or 44 year model with the 6 volt electric start. One day while the tractor was in my dad's shop the driver said he had cranked the tractor with a rope before. A fellow bet the tractor driver that he could not crank the tractor with a rope around the pulley. The hand took him up on it, reached in the tool box and brought out a rope. He set the throttle and the choke opened the compression relief petcocks engaged the clutch and then he wrapped a rope tightly onto the belt pulley. He took about 2 steps and pulled hard on the rope and the tractor fired right up. He then told the guy he had done it a couple of times before so he knew it would work. The guy paid the bet and walked off mumbling.

r aiken · Mar 11, 2016

Here is a thing I made 30 years ago, when I was having starter trouble on my Case 830 com. It is 2 pto shaves, 3pt hitch , and a reverse reduction gearbox from an AC combine engine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOzaO_tn1Us

old · Mar 11, 2016

Back 35 years ago when I moved to where I live now I had 2 hand start tractors. I lived alone and have it like luck would the one you wanted to start did not. More then once I would pull the non start one with the one that would. Tie the steering in place jump of and run to the non start one put it in gear get it to start jump off and run to the one pulling. Looking back at thing that was not a smart thing to do but I did it and am still here to say not a good thing to do

Dick2 · Mar 12, 2016

Take a look at this arrangement that a guy installed to start his hard-starting Cat 60. Through a reduction gearbox, he can start with just a small air cooled engine. Many things are possible.

Moonlite37 · Mar 12, 2016

When quite young and of poor judgment, I was drilling barley several miles from home and had lost the crank for my B Farmall. The field was finished and I had killed the engine, I certainly did not want to walk home/ I had a 12 inch Crescent wrench. I put it on the splines of the PTO shaft and pressed down. The tractor started and the wrench fell to the ground. It seems that the Lord takes care of fools

notjustair · Mar 12, 2016

I'd be lying if I said we didn't do that. Of course, we also put the truck in four low and got out and fed cows as it drove itself across the lot.

cuby · Mar 12, 2016

Years ago i had a Honda 300 Dream bike and washed it at a car wash. Needles to say it would not start after that ,so my buddy had a Honda 350 bike and we hooked a tarp strap between us to pull start the Dream. What a STUPID thing to do. Never again.

jeffcat · Mar 12, 2016

Look on Y-tube. There are a lot of crazy people doing that with tractors and brush mowers Etc.

Super-H-Mike · Mar 12, 2016

I have done that too, kinda crazy looking back on it now !

Super-H-Mike · Mar 12, 2016

I remember that one too. Feeding hay out in the pasture with a 59 Chevy.

Once I was ice fishing here in Minnesota on a big frozen lake . Got stuck in my 1960 4x4 Chevy 3/4 ton pickup. It had a throttle lock cable on it, so I put it in 3 gear about 1/2 throttle and got the wheels spinning, then got out and started to rock her back and forth. Well , just when I got it to climb out of the ruts I fell down on the ice. I figured it would just stall out, but dang if it didnt recover and stay alive and keep going across the lake. I could not catch up to it ! It finally ran into a huge snow drift and stalled out . So I was stuck again anyway ! Of course, no one anywhere to be seen for help. I did a bunch of shoveling that day ! Didnt try the throttle lock again though.

David G · Mar 12, 2016

You were real lucky, I wonder if a pipe wrench would loosen?

David G · Mar 12, 2016

That sounds like a Mr Bean movie.

old · Mar 12, 2016

I did that throttle lock thing on a motorcycle one time and tried to surf on it by standing on the seat. Hit a bump and did a back flip off of it and it kept going till it hit a curb. Had a couple friends with me that where behind me and saw the whole thing. I didn't get hurt and the bike did not get hurt but my Timex watch cyrstle got ruffed up so bad you could not see the hands of the wacth

onefarmer · Mar 12, 2016

I read an article about a guy who found a rare tractor on an island. He boated a engine over to it and set it up on the pto. Then he waited for the water to freeze over and drove the tractor to shore. The tractor engine was setup but the drive-train was at least usable.

wisbaker · Mar 12, 2016

The rope and pulley thing could work, it's the same concept as a recoil start on a lawnmower, heck in the Air Force we had procedures to remotely remove a fuze from a bomb with a rope, electrical tape and a pipe wrench. Why? the theory was bad things might happen when the fuze was unscrewed so you don't want to be too close when you did that.

buickanddeere · Mar 12, 2016

I have wondered sometimes how a "jerry rigged" system that ends up being a one of a kind, more $$$ and less user friendly system. Is sometimes preferred over making an actual repair or upgrade ?
Bolting on a Delco MT39, MT44 or a Denso 5Kw. With a couple of group 31 batteries and 2/00 cable is rather simple.

rrlund · Mar 12, 2016

I think Baxter Black told a story like that,about a guy who towed a tractor and round baler with a pickup out in the field. His plan was to jump off the tractor and run to the pickup,but when the tractor started,the chain came unhooked and the pickup took off gaining speed.

MikeinKy · Mar 12, 2016

I thought I was the only to do stupids stunts like that. A few years back I was spreading fertilizer with my IH 886 and got stuck in the mud. I got my MF 1155 out and chained it to the 886 and put the 886 in gear and got on the massey and pulled it out then jumped off and on the 886 and knocked it out of gear and then went back and stopped the massey. And it worked like a charm. I was old enough to know better almost 60.

MARK ROBKE · Mar 12, 2016

I remember that story-but I thought the truck almost went over a cliff.Mark

fixerupper · Mar 12, 2016

Just this evening dad was telling me about an old guy who used to start his model T by jacking up a rear wheel and turning the wheel by hand to spin the engine over.

Bob · Mar 12, 2016

"old guy who used to start his model T by jacking up a rear wheel and turning the wheel by hand to spin the engine over"

Wasn't just that one "old guy", that was a common thing to do.

On the other hand, mebbe he just jacked up one rear wheel to make hand-cranking the engine easier due to the drag in the oil-lubricated wet clutch and band transmission trying to make the care move forward against the parking brake.

Have you ever driven a "Model T"?

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