Logan in S.E. Texas
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Is there any difference in quality of tires that come on new trucks and the ones you buy at your local tire dealer?
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fixerupper
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I have always seen about as many miles out of the factory tires as I have the ones that replaced them, maybe a little more miles from the factory tires. Years ago people used to complain about those cheap Generals that came on General Motors vehicles. It seemed like the Generals went about 20,000 miles like the rest of them.
Roger in Iowa
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Look at the tread wear indicator numbers. Higher number is supposed to be more miles. OEM Goodyears were 320 and went about 35,000. New Coopers are 740 so will see how they do.
Married2Allis
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I have experienced on several vehicles including cars and trucks, that the OEM tires are superior to the replacements from the tire retailers. They swear up and down that it's the same tire. And it's not just about mileage, it's also about the ride quality and noise. On the replacements, seems like they don't last much beyond 25,000 miles when they get noisy and start to shred. I think tire companies play games and especially when they're going to 'phase out' a particular tire model.
Steve@Advance
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I can't speak for big trucks, but the smaller trucks, SUV's, the factory tires are less than desirable.
Bought my wife a new Honda CRV. The worst tires ever! Wore out in 20,000 miles, always leaking air. The worst was the noise! Had bad road noise, almost like a ringing sound when hitting the seams in the concrete. Put on a set of Michelins, so much quieter, no air loss, wearing even.
I bought a new '01 Silverado, terrible tires, think they were Goodyears. Trying to take off on wet pavement was like driving on ice, terrible traction!
Got rid of them, don't remember what I went to, something from Discount Tire. They were better, last set was Michelins. Truck drove, stopped, started, rode better than it ever did!
This part I can not explain, but with the other tires, always having to add air, always plugging or patching nail holes. Put the Michelins on, the air leaks stopped! I never even picked up another nail! Inexpiable!
Bought my wife a new Honda CRV. The worst tires ever! Wore out in 20,000 miles, always leaking air. The worst was the noise! Had bad road noise, almost like a ringing sound when hitting the seams in the concrete. Put on a set of Michelins, so much quieter, no air loss, wearing even.
I bought a new '01 Silverado, terrible tires, think they were Goodyears. Trying to take off on wet pavement was like driving on ice, terrible traction!
Got rid of them, don't remember what I went to, something from Discount Tire. They were better, last set was Michelins. Truck drove, stopped, started, rode better than it ever did!
This part I can not explain, but with the other tires, always having to add air, always plugging or patching nail holes. Put the Michelins on, the air leaks stopped! I never even picked up another nail! Inexpiable!
Aaron Ford
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There is no difference if buying the same tire.
The factory tires on the truck were Michelins and were great. The factory tires on her Honda were Continentals and we couldn't wait to get them off the car. One had a defect at 5000 miles. Dealer refused to warranty due to past experience with Continental. I have been buying Cooper lately and have had no trouble. Your experience may vary. I try to read reviews to get an idea of what other folks think before buying.
Aaron
The factory tires on the truck were Michelins and were great. The factory tires on her Honda were Continentals and we couldn't wait to get them off the car. One had a defect at 5000 miles. Dealer refused to warranty due to past experience with Continental. I have been buying Cooper lately and have had no trouble. Your experience may vary. I try to read reviews to get an idea of what other folks think before buying.
Aaron
It can depend on the truck. A basic price leader with no options may have only the base size tires of cut-rate quality to keep the price low. An option loaded truck with fancy upgraded wheels and upgraded tires could have much higher quality tires.
Do do you pay more for the same tire at a tire store than the manufacturers pay when they negotiate to buy 100,000 plus tires at a time, FOB the factory door? You bet! The manufacturers have more negotiating power than Walmart does.
Do do you pay more for the same tire at a tire store than the manufacturers pay when they negotiate to buy 100,000 plus tires at a time, FOB the factory door? You bet! The manufacturers have more negotiating power than Walmart does.
This information is 20-25 years old but I expect that it is still accurate.
Tire manufacturers categorize production into grades.
The highest quality tires go to OEM manufacturers due to tight OEM specifications.
The next grade goes to manufacturer stores, e.g., Good Year, if any.
The next grade goes to non captive stores, e.g., independent tire stores, Wal Mart, etc.
The lower grades become seconds, blems, etc.
This is readily apparent by paying attention to the amount of weight needed to balance tires after installation. Tires installed on new vehicles usually have very little balancing weight, and are often balanced by mounting on the rim such that the imbalance of the valve stem results in acceptable balance. Tires sold by captive tire stores will usually need more weight but less than needed to balance tires sold by Wal Mart, etc. Blems, seconds, etc., will nearly always need considerable added weight to achieve acceptable balance.
BTDT.
Dean
Tire manufacturers categorize production into grades.
The highest quality tires go to OEM manufacturers due to tight OEM specifications.
The next grade goes to manufacturer stores, e.g., Good Year, if any.
The next grade goes to non captive stores, e.g., independent tire stores, Wal Mart, etc.
The lower grades become seconds, blems, etc.
This is readily apparent by paying attention to the amount of weight needed to balance tires after installation. Tires installed on new vehicles usually have very little balancing weight, and are often balanced by mounting on the rim such that the imbalance of the valve stem results in acceptable balance. Tires sold by captive tire stores will usually need more weight but less than needed to balance tires sold by Wal Mart, etc. Blems, seconds, etc., will nearly always need considerable added weight to achieve acceptable balance.
BTDT.
Dean
Logan it depends on the make of the truck. I spent 22 years in the tire business, I spoke to Many different "engenears" that were employed by several different tire co. Many of them complained about 1 truck mfg insisting they knew more about tire mfg than they did and demanding the tires being supplied to be made to their spec's. Needless to say the truck mfg was wrong. I think most of them today are concerned about the quality of tires installed at the factory.
Pair-a-dice farm
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I would say it depends on how the dealer ordered the truck. I bought a new 1994 F150 that came with AT 6 ply rated goodyears that lasted over 45K. In 2005 I bought a new Dodge that came with street tread 6 ply Michelin's that lasted a little less than 30K.
I don't know about the real quality here but the tires on my 07 Dodge 2500 have 60 thousand on them and still have a good amount of tread left, maybe 20,000 more miles. I have only switched them front to back once, and the wear is even. I don't use the truck hard, I use it to pull a tractor on a trailer but not too often.
Logan in S.E. Texas
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Thanks for all the great information. My 2011 half ton Chevy needs new tires. I have had good luck with Michelin's in the past but money is a little tight at the moment and I have an opportunity to pick up a set of brand new Goodyears for $100 each that were taken off a brand new truck. A new set of Michelin's are $1100, I can go to Walmart and spend another $78 to get them mounted andlifetime rotate/balance. So for less than $500 I get new tires and have $600 to use for other things.
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