What causes controversy in your neighborhood?

Dick2 · Feb 28, 2016

I grew up in flatland country with very little slope, so drainage was always an issue between neighbors if things got too wet. The county finally established an authorized "Drain Board" to work out solutions and try to tone down the emotions.

1962 was a very wet spring, everybody was trying to get their land to drain into already full drainage ditches. I had a friend that commented: "If this rain keeps up, the only thing left around here by fall will be the rocks that the farmers used to kill each other with."

When the big drains could not carry any more water, land owners would try to open up the old natural water ways that had been closed by roads sometime in the past and drainage diverted into the big drains. If someone opened up an old natural waterway that flooded a neighbor, things got hectic and then each party hired lawyers! If someone prevails hard enough, they can force opening old natural waterways that might displease a lot of land owners downstream. The system works fairly well now, but there is still room for improvement.

Adirondack case guy · Feb 28, 2016

Citiots that move here.
Loren

flying belgian · Feb 28, 2016

Ours is mostly development. Our township boarders the city limits of North Mankato/Mankato, Mn. So we have the "newbies" butting heads with the "good old boys" Always problems with snow removal and road maint. Everybody wants theirs done first so we have to get bigger and better equip and man power and the farm land owners such as myself have to pay a disproportionate share.

onefarmer · Feb 28, 2016

I have to agree with ACG If it weren't for the citiots there would be lot less problems.

GreenEnvy · Feb 28, 2016

Hutterites.

fixerupper · Feb 28, 2016

Here in my part of NWIA the first thing to come to my mind is also drainage. We don't have livestock to get out anymore so we don't have the frantic neighbor driving up the lane to tell us our cows are in HIS corn because they got out through the stretch of fence that is HIS responsibility.

Pair-a-dice farm · Feb 28, 2016

A few years ago there was a spell of wife swapping that caused some controversy or was it gossip :lol: . Most people around here get along very well. Sometimes there will be someone move in that lets their dog roam and chase livestock but that is usually remedied pretty quick. We are starting to have some citiot trouble here too.

farmerwithmutt · Feb 28, 2016

The big one causing a stir is large waste disposal company is thinking about putting in a storage tank . One number I heard was million gallons . The questions are not only the smell but what's going to happen to the roads and property values. It's also raises the question if one gets in how many will follow? So far I've heard cheese factories and sewer plants. You wonder what's in that and if you want it on your land.
A big mega dairy is going in its a different name but the owners have already got one next door . So far there doing a good job but you wonder at the volume of water used by both dairies how that will affect neighbors we have a lot of abandoned mines in that area and when those shut down it caused a lot of trouble

NY 986 · Feb 28, 2016

Everything. Interesting that you bring this up because I just learned of a new controversy just last week but it does not involve me. Most of the neighbors are decent but there has always been one or two trouble makers in the community. Also, there is always been one that has been down right unfriendly which means watch your back.

wjytexas · Feb 28, 2016

more neighbors. Like 196 homes on 32 developable acres along my back fence.

rrlund · Feb 28, 2016

So called "medical" marijuana. Nothing but drug gangs trying to do what they do,legally. People don't finally catch on to what's really going on until one of those dog breeding bed wetting dopers break in to their house to try to get money to buy the stuff.

Greg1959 · Feb 28, 2016

First, about 6 years ago, it started with the abuse of pain killer pills. Pill heads stealing everything they could find, even from their own family and neighbors. I've been hit a few times.

Now, we are in the middle of a herion epidemic. OD's daily. It's getting so bad that not only do paramedics carry Narcan(Antidote to herion overdose), the police and fire do too. Just saw on the News that anyone can now get Narcan to carry with them if they come across someone that has OD'ed on herion.

News reported how dangerous it was to give the Narcan injection to someone because they instantly come to and become enraged because you gave them a shot that they instantly lost their 'high'.

It's pretty bad around here.

ztrmower · Feb 28, 2016

hog confinements

farmerwithmutt · Feb 28, 2016

Have you noticed some farm chemicals are getting hard to obtain ? A while back stopped at local farm store iodine was under lock and key the store was recently broken into and that was one of the items taken not to mention anhydrous ammonia . All I know is ain't smoking that life's short enough as is

Blksmok · Feb 28, 2016

Nauseating odors from mega-dairy operations here in Wisconsin. Pity the neighbors living just east of these confinement operations and spreading the liquid manure from the pits as the prevailing winds here are from the west.

notjustair · Feb 28, 2016

Funny you mention that. A couple at the end of the section moved in from Tennessee. The big dog
just ran wild chasing cars and barking. I warned them a few times about what happens, especially
if their dog runs my cattle.

Darn it all, that dog was dead within a month of their move in date.

4020 electrician · Feb 28, 2016

It's not the marijuana it's Heroin in central Michigan

rrlund · Feb 28, 2016

That even happens in rural areas as far from the cities as I am. We have two lakes here that are developed and attract retirees and weekenders.
It's tough to get anybody who's from around here to serve in local government unless they have an axe to grind or their own personal agenda. Most locals are like me,just want to be left alone and hope somebody with some common sense will take care of business and not let the wheels fall off. So,we end up with those retirees on the lakes sticking their noses in to things,expecting a rural area to be more like where they came from. Then the backlash comes from the single issue hotheads who would resort to violence if need be to stop the outsiders. Things just get even more divided and there's even less common sense year after year.
There are three of us on Township Board of Review. I lost both of the other members this year. I tried to count the other day,how many have been on there in the 20 years that I've been. I think these two make numbers 10 and 11. That makes a turnover about every two years. This is the first time I've lost two at once.
I've got a distant cousin who's supervisor in another township just to the southeast of me. I saw him at the gas station yesterday. He said he lost two BOR members this year too. It's just plain tough to get somebody to do that job unless they think it'll help them get their own assessment lowered. Believe me,anybody who thinks that is definitely on the wrong side of the table.

Eldon (WA) · Feb 28, 2016

(quoted from post at 10:07:04 02/28/16) I grew up in flatland country with very little slope, so drainage was always an issue between neighbors if things got too wet. The county finally established an authorized "Drain Board" to work out solutions and try to tone down the emotions.

1962 was a very wet spring, everybody was trying to get their land to drain into already full drainage ditches. I had a friend that commented: "If this rain keeps up, the only thing left around here by fall will be the rocks that the farmers used to kill each other with."

When the big drains could not carry any more water, land owners would try to open up the old natural water ways that had been closed by roads sometime in the past and drainage diverted into the big drains. If someone opened up an old natural waterway that flooded a neighbor, things got hectic and then each party hired lawyers! If someone prevails hard enough, they can force opening old natural waterways that might displease a lot of land owners downstream. The system works fairly well now, but there is still room for improvement.

Coal and oil trains that come thru the valley.

rrlund · Feb 28, 2016

That's where I am,but trust me,we've got some insane dope pushers right here locally. I seriously doubt that marijuana is all that they're selling,but that's the part they can do legally. It get's their foot in the door with the buyers.

dr sportster · Feb 28, 2016

I was going to say nothing .But people are complaining about the oil trains. A few towns down the track they complain about the trains idling while running . One guy complained about a pile of creosote covered ties on railroad property and everyone pretty much told him to get a life .It is their property. Property taxes are insane.

rrlund · Feb 28, 2016

Kinda have to laugh and cringe at the same time on that one. There's one about six miles west of me,and I'm a mile west of town.
I was cleaning up some awful putrid stuff a few years ago that had been piling up in a barn for a few years and spreading it even closer to town to the east of me. Next morning I was in the restaurant for breakfast and my dad's cousin was about beside himself. He lived right in town and said he had stepped outside in the night for a cigarette. He was complaining about the big dairy. Said he could smell that sh** all the way over here!!
I told him I didn't think that's what he was smelling. I told him what I'd been hauling the day before. He tried to tell me that nothing I was hauling could smell that bad! I told him I thought he was wrong,was pretty sure what he was smelling came out of my barn.

David G · Feb 28, 2016

Not much, good neighbors here.

Old weldor · Feb 28, 2016

The small town I live near wants growth so they instituted a seven year tax abatement, if you build a new home. Well somebody has to make up for the ones that don't pay any taxes. It's all well and good but I think seven years is a bit much! They are finding that some of these people came from a tax abatement that was about to run out.

4020 electrician · Feb 28, 2016

Over doses weekly around MT.Pleasant. The Morning Sun has just not wrote anything about it.. Heroin overdoses. Terrible. Can't disclose where I get my info but it's really reliable. It's cheap and scary..

Old bob. · Feb 28, 2016

Starting fluid is used in some dope making recipes. Hard to believe!!!!!

bjr · Feb 28, 2016

We"ve a medium sized (70 lots) water association that I"m a board member. We have a horrible time trying to maintain the system on the budget. No one wants to be on the board because it"s such a maintenance nightmare. So there is a lot of controversy and different opinions from the ones that want to upgrade and the ones that just want good water service for just paying their water bills (intermittently) with no participation what so ever. Oh yes we also have the people that let their dogs run and all the "Medicinal Only" Pot farms with all the associated thefts. People are pretty much using their property for parking. Old motor homes get up to $500 a month for rentals and the all seasonal migrant workers passing thru. I"m thinkin" "bout selling and moving but from what I"m reading it"s the same everywhere. bjr

paul · Feb 28, 2016

Governor of Minnesota.

He is terribly anti-farmer, does anything he can to mess over agriculture. Down town twin cities folk just love him.

Latest issue is buffer strips, but its been many things with him.

Paul

Brown Swiss · Feb 28, 2016

The local school board is going to kill each other far as I understand it, in 96 two schools consolidated and one school turned into the middle school and the other the elementary and high school. Now they say the high school has too much of some kind of health risk, don't think asbestos cause they went through that when I was there, any who some want to fix the school others say it is better to build a whole new one. Only takes some millions of dollars either way. LOL

farmer boy · Feb 28, 2016

I won't say that it causes a great deal of controversy, but there are Amish looking at the area, and because they've never really been in this area before, most of the neighbour hood doesn't know the trouble they'll be once they're here. I've been around several different orders of Amish and Mennonites, and was quite happy when I moved here that there were none up here. Other thing is wind mills. Some want them, some don't. Really depends on whether you signed up to put them on your property or not. They pay well enough that it's worth having them around. You could easily pay for a second farm with what they pay for 2 of them.

JD Seller · Feb 28, 2016

Here it is the younger generation of farmers that only have seen the good times. They are causing hard feeling with the older established farmers. I actually heard a son, of a local BTO, tell a bunch of farmers at the COOP that the farmers that lost everything in the 1980s where just the "bad/poor" farmers that needed to be out of business so the "GOOD/BTO" farmers could do the job "better" than us "bad/smaller" farmers. He is just the only one that was ballsy enough to speak what he truly feels. That attitude is going to be costly to those fellows if the current grain/livestock prices go on for very long. There will be little "good will" towards any of them that fail.

This attitude is just a continuation of the same running up cash rents and trying to drive out current renters. It has really effected some of the local groups ability to draw on community support. It is hard to set on a board with a fellow that just tried to rent a farm out from under you.

NY 986 · Feb 28, 2016

We see a lot of that here including from some of the newer Mennonites. Everybody is trying to cut everybody else's throat and there is plenty of condemnation of other people's shortcomings. I have always had a very uphill situation in trying to farm and I here my name put down quite a bit. Jobs are scarce here so even though the ground is not the best I do the best with the resources I have and have stuck it out. I am not a huge auction fan but I have lost enthusiasm in terms of going because the talk even if I am not the topic is so negative.

da.bees · Feb 28, 2016

I'll say up front conterversy directly effecting me reach'es boiling point,or at least much sooner if neighbors try throwing a coon on me.
When land around me began developing I offered compermise and reasoning but new neighbors wouldn't have it. Level land that drains slowly from West to East into seasonal creekbed. I asked every new landowner joining my North or South boundery to pay part of expense to hire a maintainer tractor to throw up a road bed leading to creek on the intire property line. Divider fence would sit in center of crown. "Naaa,I'll just bring in dirt to build up my lot if I have a problem." Fast foward 3 years and I had the maintainer create a ditch 8'inside property line. Soil from ditch was pushed onto line creating a 10"high levee. Start's off with one guy with connections for a belly dump hauling in several hundred yards(I estimate 500 yds) raising grade on his two acres by about 2". Cry like a pig under a fence doesn't come close to describing the reaction of his two neighbors to the west when their yards stood 1"to2" after heavy rain. Their solution was bite the bullet and have soil hauled in. Big suprise,500 yds and spreading is an expensive indevor. If you've dealt with this before you know that raising the 2 acre lots 10" will be impossible because water will run into the house,not to mention cost of enough soil in the first place. I met requests to breach my levee with reminders of when I offerd to share costs and that they can still do it,,,,,,if they can all agree and are willing to remove yard fences to alow machine access. She hit a fast boil when a couple of them breached my levee. Worked pretty well to. I sent registered letters demanding they immediatly repair levee or I will repair and send them a bill. One feller alowed he would just tear it down again if I repaired the levee. The pot boiled dry and pan practically melted when I repaired the levee and sent a bill. A 4020 with a front bucket full and weighted box blade on the rear sure leave's some serious ruts while spinnig around. They figured I owed them for damage to their yards but my answer to their lawyer convinced them they were about to send good money chaseing bad,suit was dropped. Another suit was dropped after a hearing where I said I was simply preventing my water running onto them and compounding their troubles. Want to hear about fishing or hunting posted land in Texas without permission? How bout trespassing on land they thought"nobody owned"? I will pi$$ on a spark plug to get along but I will not take a shaft everytime I stoop over.

Donald Lehman · Feb 28, 2016

JD Seller · Feb 28, 2016

NY 986: It is kind of sad that in a little over two generations we have gotten to the point where we need our fellow man so little that we can use machinery to do what used to take neighborhood groups to do. This is one of the tenants that help Guide the Amish. They try to look at how adopting more modern ways, will effect their social group. I am friends with a Amish man about my age. He talked about how his Father was sad when another neighboring family bought another threshing machine. The reason for his sadness was that he stated that they would no longer be working as close together with that family as they would harvest separately. His Father knew the families would not be as close. He says his Father's fears have turned out to be true.

Our farming operation has evolved this way too. Years ago my Grand Father owned the corn picker and then later a combine. His brother owned a square hay baler, hay rake and mower. They did each others crops in trade. This made them work out any minor disagreements. They also had a closer relationship because they were involved working with each other.

On a larger scale this has happened across the farming community nation/world wide. So individuals can be vicious/mean spirited etc. when dealing with their fellow farmers because they do not have to depend on each other for anything. Civility is damaged when you do not have interactions with the people around you. It is easier to "cut some ones throat" if you do not know or interact with them.

There is getting to be less of a common back ground among the younger generation. My older sons saw us struggle to keep going in tough times. My younger children struggled with losing their Mother. I think all of this has made them be more compassionate toward their fellow man. There are too many of the younger generation that has everything handed to them "free" without any struggle/work that it has added to the natural tendency of the young to be a little selfish or ME ME type of people.

Bill VA · Feb 28, 2016

On many fronts - if you compare our country today, the pride, can-do attitudes, work ethic, you name it - then compare to 1976, the bicentennial year. IMHO - it's enough to make one cry.

I kind of miss those days.

Bill

Greg1959 · Feb 28, 2016

JD Seller- Are you talking about kind of like the guy????

His name is Martin Shkreli.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Shkreli

Billy Shafer · Feb 28, 2016

Around this town. It is the old money not wanting the town to grow. Stuck in 1960. This town is dying and they refuse to see it.Of the ten new businesses that opened in the last three years. Eight have gone under and one moved out of town.Every town in this county is growing except this one.

Cory Schmidt · Feb 28, 2016

Lately its wind turbines, BTO's don't want em because they can't just fly down the fields, folks nears the Nucs don't want them because it might interfere with subsidies they get from the plant, then the NIMBY crowd. One the other side are the "green" energy or extra money in my pocket crowd. Rest walk the wire between the two. With state regulations/restrictions not much land is actually usable.

A big thing from a few months back(on going, but died down(for now))was when a big box/chain store put up a offer to buy a portion of the county fair grounds(right off of the highway). The outfit is also going to put up other(I heard 5) stores in other bigger nearby towns. This was the FIRST AND ONLY offer for the ground, that wasn't even listed for sale, and the county didn't even seek it out. The county board AGREED to the price. The part of the grounds that the outfit wants, the track/grandstand and some of the parking "lot", this is the MOST USED part of the grounds through the year. I can only see this helping to bring down what is left of the crumbling nearby towns.

unc · Feb 28, 2016

(quoted from post at 14:56:45 02/28/16) Around this town. It is the old money not wanting the town to grow. Stuck in 1960. This town is dying and they refuse to see it.Of the ten new businesses that opened in the last three years. Eight have gone under and one moved out of town.Every town in this county is growing except this one.

Very similar in our area, except there are no new businesses. Town management consists of a clique that thinks everyone owes them and their offspring a living. It is popular to blame the Citiots- not so ! Good people have moved here for the small town life, joined everthing, volunteered, worked their tails off, and been mocked and shunned until they sell out and move. Our town management thinks that grow-ops are the answer. Our town manager is the son of a councillor- no qualifications, no experience, not too honest, but has the right last name. Our area was founded, farmed, and ranched by some great folks, but I think some would roll over in their graves if they could see what a mess their grand-children have made. By the way , our local experts are all in their 60s- old enough to know better. People have given up on elections locally, provincially, and federally. We run, we campaign, we vote, we work, and end up with Same Old, Same Old. The good people can't make any headway- just when you think something has been resolved for the benefit of the community, you find out that you wasted your time and effort- there was already a backroom " done-deal" in place before you started.

showcrop · Feb 28, 2016

(quoted from post at 10:51:46 02/28/16) more neighbors. Like 196 homes on 32 developable acres along my back fence.

That is just plain stupid!! Are there no zoning laws there? How many households in town now to share in the cost of a new school?

JD Seller · Feb 28, 2016

Yes!!! This type of fellow is what many on Wall street and many of the "Big" banks love. He is adding NOTHING to any company he has ever had anything to do with. He is just a parasite. Truthfully I place many of the Wall street type in this same mold.

NY 986 · Feb 28, 2016

It was good that your grandfather and his brother worked together so well. I've seen quite a few situations where that did not work even among family members. One situation involved a wife that inherited a lot of money and wanted it to be "their own family."

casecollectorsc · Feb 28, 2016

I would add that those with the silver spoon in their mouth are very arrogant and very selfish around here. The only reason they talk to some of us small operators is to ask if we are going to quit this year as they want to rent our land.

RobCons · Feb 28, 2016

Our neighborhood and town are small. Most controversy is dogs running loose, pot bellied pigs running loose, and anything our mayor does. The pigs are funny. We had a couple loose a few years ago and half the neighborhood wanted them killed before they could carry off small children, the other half wanted them saved. City employees trapped them, they would come up to you with a little coaxing since they were just pets, and took them to a friend.

bill mart · Feb 28, 2016

That's how Richard Pryor got burned. Free basing with ether. Bill

Bryan inIowa · Feb 28, 2016

Round a bouts. city /private business partnerships. TIF grants to select developers . New Library that they tried to push down our throats without a vote because select developer wants lot its on . Blue Zones and the agenda that comes with it . Poor city water ,radium level high, but city wants to spend 12 mil to help build new YMCA . Really polarized our nice little town . The new people that have moved here and want all these big city changes vs the long time residents that like our bedroom community . I was never one to get involved in city government but that has changed fast .

Kickinbull · Feb 28, 2016

Wow, busy topic. Lot of commonality. Here, recently, at the end of March there is a wet/dry alcohol vote coming up. right now we are a dry county. Local hospital administration embezzled medicare money and walked away. Leaving the burden to tax payers. The hospital was sold but the debt stays. Last election for mayor there was alleged corruption at the polls. It's still not settled.

flying belgian · Feb 28, 2016

Yep, same everywhere. You would just be jumping from one fire into another.

01gentdc · Feb 28, 2016

that's a more polite name than I have called them ,,. gonna have to remember that one loren

ditchwitch · Feb 28, 2016

Im going to ask a stupid question ,Is Citiots another name for amish ??

notjustair · Feb 28, 2016

I've sworn for the last couple of years that the 80's are coming to farming again. There's been enough of a generation gap that the new kids don't know what can happen. I was looking at buying some ground and was at FSA. Went to farm credit as well. They were both talking about the direction of things and that many of the larger farmers around here were being denied operating loans for inputs. These are guys that have done business with them for years and always paid when due. Never mind about the ^*%# that stole two pieces of ground from me and has filed bankruptcy twice. He is going to hang those two landlords with that land. I hope. The commodities just won't support making a profit with the expense of chemicals some guys are using. I'm sure planning carefully to avoid any more trips through the field than necessary.

Mark - IN. · Feb 28, 2016

Happens every year on my birthday. It starts out with me getting out of bed, going out to one of the stills and tasting, celebrating more than maybe I should. Then some sheriff deputies and the local town marshall take turns tazing me until I fall off of one of the barn roofs. One of them grabs my clothes, all of them, tosses them at me and tells me to put them back on, all of them while another turns down the Bonnie Raitt music. Then I spend a couple of days locked up in the psych ward of our local hospital which is pretty much just the slop sink closet down by the boiler room, then after they clear me I spend a few days down to the county lockup waiting for the judge to make his weekly visit and usually costs me a couple hundred dollars in fines. It always makes the local news although they black out some of my body areas in the pictures and video from up on the roof, falling to the ground, and rolling around on the ground. Its not controversial so much as it is the annual talk of the town. My neighbors say that they wouldn't call the cops if I would leave my clothes on, all of them. What the heck, if celebrating my birthday gives the town, county something to talk about, bringing the folk together is the least that I can do even if only one day a year. I'm doing my part which is more than most do.

Mark
Moonshine, Birthdays, and Good Music

John Deere D · Feb 28, 2016

We blessed, as our neighbours are great.

Bob..

JMS/.MN · Feb 28, 2016

And of course the MPLS Tribune is in his back pocket for the same reason- they hate farming. Blame the farmer for water issues, no matter how many cities dump into the rivers. They estimate what, 144,000 acres lost with the buffer strips? I don"t see buffer strips or setbacks on city lawns, businesses, golf courses, etc.

onefarmer · Feb 28, 2016

NO!! It's for the city idiots that move in next to a farm and think they are still in the city. They need to read the sign. Sign should also include dust, dirt, tractors, loud machinery noise at all times......

Bret4207 · Feb 29, 2016

(quoted from post at 14:21:37 02/28/16) Citiots that move here.
Loren

Yup, that and taxation to support the takers in our society.

Bret4207 · Feb 29, 2016

(quoted from post at 00:23:38 02/29/16) Im going to ask a stupid question ,Is Citiots another name for amish ??

No. Amish are called Amish. Citiots are city people that move here and expect the same services in a town of 900 that they got in a city of 500K or 1.2 million. Northern NY is not New Jersey, NYC or Conneticut. It's been the same story in every town I've lived in.

W_B · Feb 29, 2016

We bought a rural lot to build the log house we always wanted. We were the first in the area and the first to start building. On the lot next door were the citiots (city idiots). They complained about everything, they said our house was too close to the lot line (we had temporarily staked out the outline of the house to see how that orientation would look, the contractor put the house over a few feet to comply with the requirements). They got caught in a neighbors house measuring the area of the first floor (you had to build a certain minimum size) When we put up a yard light on the front of an addition to the pole barn they complained it shined in their bedroom window. When we put up some temporary fence panels to keep our first llamas in they complained about it. We had contracted to have a nice three board fence constructed around the whole 3 acres at no small expense, to look nice in the neighborhood. They had no use for the llamas, all the other neighbors loved them. She complained to the zoning officer of the township, she told her to get over it, she was not in the city anymore.

The topper and final straw for us was they and another neighbor circulated a petition to have the protective covenants changed, among some other small things, to not allow any livestock except horses and only one per acre (previous one had no pigs, no chickens but everything else was OK). We were grandfathered. They never asked us or even told us about it. We found out due to a required notification when the change was filed at the Clerk's office at the county seat. We decided we'd had enough of their meddling in everyone's lives and we found a place in a true rural area and left. All farm folks around us and no one complains.

They say karma's a b!tch, and it is... their house burned down from a lightning strike about a year after we left that area. I felt bad, a little, it was a nice house.

showcrop · Feb 29, 2016

(quoted from post at 06:14:35 02/29/16)

(quoted from post at 00:23:38 02/29/16) Im going to ask a stupid question ,Is Citiots another name for amish ??

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No. Amish are called Amish. Citiots are city people that move here and expect the same services in a town of 900 that they got in a city of 500K or 1.2 million. Northern NY is not New Jersey, NYC or Conneticut. It's been the same story in every town I've lived in.

When I was on our small town's select board there was a lot of growth and new homes and new residents. A meeting was held where it started out with "what do we have that is good and what-all should we want to get". All these citiots were saying how poor everything about the town was and what we needed to have. I had been living here for twenty years and was clueless about what a dump our town was. The guy that took the cake, though, was the one who kept calling and complaining about the condition of the dirt road that he had to drive in order to get to his new, perfect sub-division road. I finally had to answer him, "now wait a minute, how was it that you didn't notice that the road was dirt when you went to look at the house before you bought it?"

dr sportster · Feb 29, 2016

In my town no lighting is allowed to flood onto a neighbors property . You can't blame them for not wanting light in the bedroom.

JML755 · Feb 29, 2016

Anything and everything. :lol: Basically ANY change in the status quo.

I wanted to put up a barn on my vacant property (over 50 acres) in an ag district. You'd have thought I was the devil incarnate. Neighbors who had much smaller lot sizes came out in numbers to lobby the twp board against it. As much as people rail against "citiots", I think there are just as many problems/controversies caused by NIMBYs especially in the rural districts.

buickanddeere · Feb 29, 2016

Farmers that contract those noisy sunlight flickering 4Mw wind turbines on the other farm where they don't live . However the wind turbine is just 500yards away and upwind of the neighbour's house.

Hobo,NC · Feb 29, 2016

Trailer trash are in general trash that rents a 60 year old trailer are a house that's needs to be condemned....

My victory I got the health inspector to condemn one and work'N on #2...

Ande · Feb 29, 2016

Well said JD. And a little icing on the cake, is texting, no voice discussion, no relationships. Cold dead lives

W_B · Mar 2, 2016

(quoted from post at 15:52:59 02/29/16) In my town no lighting is allowed to flood onto a neighbors property . You can't blame them for not wanting light in the bedroom.

If you could see the situation there you could see she is just complaining for no reason... The bedroom window sit about 75 ft. higher than the light and is well over 100 ft. away. Barn is down hill from their property so at best they can see the top of the light fixture and it was one of the lower wattage gold colored lights, not the bright white ones.

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