Bearings and belts

DeltaRed

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Where do you buy bearings? I have found our local NAPA can supply most if not all my bearing needs. Just give them the bearing number or the OEM part number, and they will match.Ofter for half the cost of a dealer,especially Deere.I also buy disk bearings,and other ground engageing bearings from Shoup.Look in a bearing box from Deere. The Deere bearing is the same bearing that I get from NAPA(only in a John Deere box). How about Belts? Either JayDee orNAPA. Again half of deere,just give the Part number. Like bearings,if not in stock,they will have it tommorrow morning.Vrs Deere,need 3 days to get from 'parts depot'.
 
Bearings Inc in Terre Haute carries bearings, hyd hoses, belts, everything you need to fix equipment used in factories, coal mines, dozers, industrial machines. They even make flat belts, bandsaw blades. That's the first place I go for belts and bearings. Price is right too.
 
Depends. If I need other parts from the Agco dealer,I get bearings there. Otherwise,auto parts store,Family Farm and Home,TSC,Dutchman's Welding and Repair or Fowlers Farm City. Hardware store for A and B width belts,Fowlers for C width.
 
I buy what I can thru Shoup. Good quality parts and if I order by 1 pm they arrive the next morning. We don't have a bearing company near by. It pays to shop around on bearings. Around here CaseIH is the most expensive with NAPA being next and Deere is usually cheapest. Napa also charges sales tax, the others don't. Deere has started to supply more and more Chinese bearings tho, not good. As far as JayDee, I priced some belts for my 6620 last year and a couple of them were actually higher than Deere was so I bought Deere belts.
 
I always shop around. Easier than ever before now with the internet.
One thing you have to watch on bearing cross overs is they may be the same size but can vary in roller or ball count and other stuff. This is where a bearing specialty place will really help compared to NAPA or just an internet general cross over.
I have found on John Deere they liked to use a lot of weird sized bearings and seals not easily found elsewhere. Also Deere has strong patent protection. For instance on my 1936 JD B up in the steering worm there is a Timken bearing. Deere still sells them but I was able to get a deal on the others from a relative who worked for Timken. Well on this particular bearing he could not even get one because Deere had it locked up only to be sold to them.
 
A number of years ago when I replaced the front wheel bearings in my 520 Deere, I couldn't get the seals at NAPA, so I priced bearings at both Deere and NAPA. Surprised me......Deere beat NAPA for the bearing price.
 
Years ago I had a farmer that needed a brg.which I had, made in Japan. He did not want that one ,needed a JD brg. Got one for him and it was made in Japan,but that one was much better because it came in a JD box.
 
If I have time to wait, and know exactly what I want, I'll usually order it online. Find the best price, shipping and no tax.

If I can' find it, or in doubt, I'll go to a bearing supply. Being in a large metro area there are several to choose from. I do have a couple of favorites that I have gotten to know the sales people...

"Oh no, here he comes, wanting something weird, and he won't take no for an answer!" LOL
 
I used to by all of my parts through the dealer but not today. I have lost faith in replacement bearings from any implement dealer now that I see China stamped on most of them. About the only belts I need is fan belts and I don't need them often.
 
Shopping around is good. We have a Purvis type bearing store and sometimes the automotive stores can get them as you are saying. We have a family owned farm/welding shop that manages to have most disk and other bearings right on the shelf and reasonably priced.

I stick with one of the name brands: SKF (owns MRC), NTN (owns Bower), Timken, FAG, Koyo, Nachi, or Fafnir.

Country of origin is getting tricky as the big guys are opening plants in China etc. Also there are fake bearings floating around out there, look-a-likes that are marked with a brand name but made with inferior metallurgy. Supposedly SKF is the most faked brand with a lot of Timken fakes as well. They've caught some distributors unknowingly selling fakes. There's plenty of info just a google search away.

The last bearing I bought from the IH dealer was simply a repackaged Bower. IH used to make their own bearings decades ago. All part of the corporate game.
 
Steve, when I go to the local metal supply house, they know I am going to ask for stuff for some weird project I am working on. Usually something I am going to custom build for myself or a friend or as is the case right now, a frame to support log walls on a cabin to replace rotten logs. That is for the state AG Museum. They always help me out and at times have not even charged me.
Richard in NW SC
 
I used A&W bearing in southwest Dallas area a couple of times. They were very helpful and friendly even though I was just the little guy.
Haven't been there in a couple of years since I don't frequent the metroplex like I used to.
 
I needed a D75 belt for a 76 year old combine. All the auto parts houses and belt suppliers said no way. Called my buddy that runs the local industrial supply in town and he said give me a few minutes.
Called me back and said he found several. I said "how much" expecting one to two hundred dollars.
He asked is $45 dollars OK? I said to order me 2.
Richard in NW SC
 
I have been doing a lot of business with a small repair place that is close to me, I could save some dollars by going to a bigger store, but this guy will answer the phone any time day or night and get me going again. Just nice to have some place like that around, and he is only 5 miles away!
 

I buy most bearings and seals from Eastern Industrial Automation. They used to be just Eastern bearing but were bought out, but the service is still good. One time I went to CNH for pilot bearing for my 901 Ford, and they told me that they had not sold one in twelve years and it would be $45.00. I went to Eastern and they had to order it in from Washington state but it was $5.00 and $8.00 for shipping.
 
When I want a belt from a bearing/belt supply, I ask if they have that in commercial grade. Costs just a bit more than a regular belt and might last years longer than the OEM belt - but the commercial belt is still way less money than an OEM belt.
 
For obsolete and hard to find stuff, especially for autos, try Olcar Bearing- they don't have a website that I can find, but Google it and you can get contact information.
 
Every time I go to Napa, they usually have to order it. Bearings Inc is just a few blocks away from NAPA and rarely do they have to order anything. We also have a speciality shop for nuts and bolts close by.. I had to go there this morning to get a special washer that Napa, auto zone or O rileys didn't have.
 
Baum Hydraulics in Omaha. They are online also. I started with them years ago, since I have my own business I can buy at wholesale prices.
 
When I had the transmission apart on my Super M, you guys had me scared to go to the dealer for anything. Needed that pilot bearing in the front of the top shaft, no good at Napa or carquest or another place in town that can find absolutely anything, motion industries and a couple more internet places said 6 months to a year and up to 100 bucks. Finally gritted my teeth and went the 15 miles to IH dealer, 52 bucks, how many you want? About the only belts I use which isn't often is for my Wheel Horse garden tractors, don't care what you or anybody else says the Wheel Horse belts last a lot longer than Napa etc. but also might cost 2 or 3 bucks a belt more, I'll spend the 2 or 3 bucks.
 
Jay Dee V-belts. Good prices but imported stuff. Got a few bearings last trip but they haven't seen use yet, Chinese bearings. There's also locateballbearings.com for bearings and seals. I stopped getting seals from AutoZone cause they're going from Tinken/National to Chinese more and more.
 
Around Cincinnati Ohio there are lots of companies that supply industrial bearings and belts so I get a list together and I'll go pick them up and have them UPS it to my door. There are several good auto parts places that carries a lot of bearing in stock. Just have on OEM part number or measure the bearing or belt and call them and you got it. The Bearing and Belt places are a hole lot cheaper than going to a dealer, Well worth a phone call. Bandit
 
I go to Napa for belts if I need it right away, I'm sure to get a Gates belt there. If I know I'm replacing belts I just order them straight out of the plant distribution center in Siloam Springs, AR. The rubber is fresh and they haven't been dry rotting on a shelf for 10 years.
 
We have two bearing suppliers in our area and they can take measurements and find bearings. For belts we shop that rebuilds electric motors and has a large supply of belts and if they don't have them in stock they have suppliers that they can get them.
 
3 days to get a part are the bearings fuel hogs to ?? Deere can have just about any part the next day Cnh fiat usually takes 2 or 3 days to get parts no matter what you do
 
I'm in Ft Worth.

I usually go to Bearing and Chain, or American Bearing.

Motion Industries for the more unusual stuff, they seem to be able to special order quicker, but I've never been able to build a relation with them, lots of employee turnover.
 
I'm actually lucky living near worcester (mass). I used to have a horrible time finding bearings, then looked around the city and found a couple of bearing shops. Seals too. I can go in there and get pretty much anything I need, right in stock.

For years I always assumed that they only served large clients, but I was surprised to find they welcome walk in customers.


There's also the Hudson Belting company. They stock a HUGE variety of belts. And if you can't find the can make it. Custom v belts - flat belts, whatever you want.

Really cool place, they've got a lot of real old belt making equipment. Like stepping back in time.
 
I missed your post somewhere in there or I could have helped you. The pilot bearing is a tough one for the bearing places to figure because being a separable bearing it requires two part numbers and there's multiple configurations for both halves. Of course one part number at IH gets the one you need. Once one understands how the part numbers work it's not hard at all to find.

I'm pleasantly surprised it was 52 bucks. I bought one at the local dealer once and it ate a $100 bill!
 
Good Evening Steve
I needed a special belt that I couldn't locate locally so I got a hold of Gates Industrial and they had it . Took about 3 days to have it at the house ,wasn't in no hurry.



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Detroit Ball Bearing used to be pretty good. I think they closed the one in Lansing MI. I find Motion Industries in Lansing to be not much good for things as they don't keep much stock and don't want to look very hard.
I find D&D in Corunna to be pretty reasonable for most things mechanical for equipment. From car parts to farm. The both of them are very knowledgeable guys. The owner is also at the counter, and has forgot more than most parts guys will ever know.
As for NAPA I won't grace their palce with my shadow. I ordered an oil pan for a pickup one time. I was gone in the truck thought it would be in when I got back. Nope sent it back. Told me after I got back that they only keep things a week and then send back. If they had told me when I ordered it I would have made arrangements to either have it picked up or to be there when I got back in.
 
15 years ago, Timken claimed you could randomly pull a set of bearings for a differential off the line at each of their 3 plants (Ohio, Poland, China) and set up your differential with one set. Then swap any particular bearing out with one of the others, their tolerances were so tight you could screw adjusters down to the same point, or not change shims, and your differential would still be set up properly.
 

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